EPTotherwise its just 50 hp
Also, you have played the new jungle? Earlier I have 14.5k gold on jungle udyr at 30 minutes and you guys are like LOL GUYS BUT MY CALCULATIONS TELL ME TO NEVER JUNGLE
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
otherwise its just 50 hp Also, you have played the new jungle? Earlier I have 14.5k gold on jungle udyr at 30 minutes and you guys are like LOL GUYS BUT MY CALCULATIONS TELL ME TO NEVER JUNGLE | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Expose Weakness affects your own damage and stacks from multiple champions. So if all 5 champions get it you can stack it up to 5% extra damage for everyone on your team. In a 1 point mastery that only requires 5 offense. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 23 2013 02:57 Slayer91 wrote: Also, you have played the new jungle? Earlier I have 14.5k gold on jungle udyr at 30 minutes and you guys are like LOL GUYS BUT MY CALCULATIONS TELL ME TO NEVER JUNGLE Are you certain that you wouldn't have hit similar numbers with a casual relic shield and playing catch-up selling the Relic Shield after you can afford SotAG? Even being 1 level behind is a 50% XP bonus. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On November 23 2013 02:57 Slayer91 wrote: Thats based on your value of the hp regen on relic shield. otherwise its just 50 hp Also, you have played the new jungle? Earlier I have 14.5k gold on jungle udyr at 30 minutes and you guys are like LOL GUYS BUT MY CALCULATIONS TELL ME TO NEVER JUNGLE That's because Runic Shield essentially gives you 8.3gp10 if you use it constantly, while golem spirit essentially give you 8gp10 + the monster bounty. Jungle always makes more money than a support. I think the problem we are talking about here is the item is way too cost efficient for the price. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Clbull
United Kingdom1439 Posts
On November 23 2013 02:29 Celial wrote: If someone else wants to play the lane you want as a carry, you have to shut your little bitch mouth and deal with it. Everything else goes. Although for the "top lane support/jungle" role you should play something tanky that can actually clear jungle. So another toplaner or jungle champ. "Bot lane support" is whatever the fuck you want, another AP carry, a bruiser or a legit support. And I wonder why the LoL community is full of assholes with replies like this that reek of entitlement. I mean "shut your little bitch mouth"? Really? My point was that Riot need to redesign the game as a whole to make different roles in different lanes more viable. Team games are simply not fun if you either cannot queue for a specific role (like in WoW) or don't even have the option to play a different team composition. Metagame wise, it's also one dimensional. It's like imagining what Starcraft would be like if you could only open one or two builds and utilize one unit composition.... Oh wait, HotS TvZ. The one matchup where even now you still see pro gamers overwhelmingly go into bio-mine vs ling bling muta because mines are easier to mass-produce, cheaper, easier to use and more powerful against lings and banes than Siege Tanks; bio is easy to produce, scales well with upgrades and can kill Tier 3 Ultralisks if well-microed and mutas are pretty much mandated in the age of mass drops and Stimivacs. EDIT: Oh and another point. "Bot lane support" isn't whatever you want. I've been whined and bitched at and mass reported by kids for dare having the audacity to play something like Fiddlesticks, Veigar, Ryze, Annie, Tryndamere, etc. in botlane. Apparently if it's not Sona, Taric, Soraka or Thresh, it's trolling. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 23 2013 02:37 Slayer91 wrote: Double targons is broken because 1: It's too strong individually compared to the other items because riot was assuming everyone perfectly CSs, and you can hold stacks for when you arent farming so its way stronger. the Philo/Kages only work well when you are actively in lane. 2: The double dipping means the support effectively gets double the normal gold he would have gotten for a small investment from the ADC once they somehow hotfix targons everything will be fine nobodys going to be trying to jungle with supporst to abuse the extra XP somehow and getting ancient golem (Hard enough to keep stacks down midgame asjungler as it is) or doing any weird shit, just playing the non nerfed supporst (zyra fiddles thresh annie) and getting tons of gold u I'm not sure if I want targons to be reverted though. buff other 2 imo. At least for a little while longer, carry support is pretty damn amusing right now. On November 23 2013 03:01 Slayer91 wrote: It seems pretty gimmicky I'd prefer not to bother with it when relic shield being so broken on everyone else is the reason it might work, it's clearly going to be nerfed to hell so why would I even test it. cuz freeeeeeeeeelo | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 23 2013 03:01 Slayer91 wrote: It seems pretty gimmicky I'd prefer not to bother with it when relic shield being so broken on everyone else is the reason it might work, it's clearly going to be nerfed to hell so why would I even test it. And the astronomically high XP boost to jungle XP for champs that are below average level? | ||
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trollbone
France1905 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
IM PLAYING DUO TOP IN SOLO Q ATM LETS DO THIS apparently with J4 with smite unless we suddenly swaped to stardard while i was posting I banned annie/fiddle/zyra so I could play a melee support lol | ||
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trollbone
France1905 Posts
edit : good killing potential with J4 | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
Also, 5 man pushing bot with 5 relic shields. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
their ap trist mid, ad vanye/janna jungle vi bot lane ez/orianna mid lane lee sin edit: lee j4 top eona ez bot | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 23 2013 03:07 killerdog wrote: Has anyone tried running 3 gold dependant champs (as in, more gold dependant then level dependant) bot with all buying relic? proccing it on 3 minions every wave should end up with them getting more then 2 normal lanes worth of farm, and you could just go 4 man dragon for free as soon as their jungler shows top, (and with the dragon xp changes, that should help you catch up a bit). Also, 5 man pushing bot with 5 relic shields. 5 man push with relic shield doesn't work at most optimal, only 2x gold in lane. and XP split is still off. The main limiter for more than 2 in a lane, is XP. | ||
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Pharcyd3
United States90 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Louuster
Canada2869 Posts
Also lol at their viewers numbers when its displayed like that next to the other streams for other games | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On November 23 2013 00:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: dont tell your team and flame them for leeching XP anyways All the more reason to go XP quints and 21 util | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On November 23 2013 03:09 wei2coolman wrote: 5 man push with relic shield doesn't work at most optimal, only 2x gold in lane. and XP split is still off. The main limiter for more than 2 in a lane, is XP. Oh it only splits two ways? Lame :< | ||
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