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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-22 07:25:57
November 22 2013 07:04 GMT
#541
On November 22 2013 15:59 Inschato wrote:
PS: Called it. >_>

The moment I heard rito was giving supports more gold/distributing warding burden, I called it too.

But honestly, way, way, way too much gold flushing through the system. Last game of NACL today was Crs Academy with 118k at 60 minutes. lolol

The gold generation, my god. Scratch that, mostly targons/relic, but still. This is past League of Cleavers level, even if the effects are more subtle.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
November 22 2013 07:29 GMT
#542
Syndra Support now OP. All the CC of a support with added instagibability.

I'm waiting for Karthus support. Someone try that.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
November 22 2013 07:37 GMT
#543
Corki Q change was fucking retarded.

Also after playing several games. What the fuck is this game.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
November 22 2013 07:41 GMT
#544
So new meta:
AD mid
sup + adc bot (grabs red)
mana user + tank top (grabs blue)
Right?

So something like riven mid
zyra/vayne bot
annie/nasus (rammus?) top
Would something like that be ideal?
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
November 22 2013 07:58 GMT
#545
@miicah88
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
November 22 2013 08:04 GMT
#546
On November 22 2013 16:37 Amui wrote:
Corki Q change was fucking retarded.

Also after playing several games. What the fuck is this game.

i approve of any and all corki buffs.

but yea corki's a bit nuts atm. Lucian is probably still stronger tho.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 22 2013 08:07 GMT
#547
Okay, just played my first ranked game as support in this new patch.
wut do i do?
lol, I feel like I'm perma attached to my ADC by the hip, especially with Runic shield (which btw the is awesome, if your ADC picks it up).
liftlift > tsm
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
November 22 2013 08:17 GMT
#548
On November 22 2013 16:41 TheRabidDeer wrote:
So new meta:
AD mid
sup + adc bot (grabs red)
mana user + tank top (grabs blue)
Right?

So something like riven mid
zyra/vayne bot
annie/nasus (rammus?) top
Would something like that be ideal?


This is just my opinion, but I think a team comp of:

Riven top
Shyvana jungle
AP mid (doesn't really matter)
decent ADC (again, doesn't really matter)
Morganna support

Shield Shyv, have her ult in and cause chaos. Meanwhile Riven can dive in behind Shyv and start whacking at people, all the while your ADC is picking off low HP champs. Maybe the mid champ is Fiddles so it's a double ult dive and literally nothing the other team can do to stop the dives?
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
November 22 2013 08:38 GMT
#549
Personally I think it'd work better if you move Riven mid, Shyvana top and have another jungler.
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 22 2013 08:44 GMT
#550
How come I can't see champion levels? For some reason, it looks like the health and mana bars cover the levels up :/ Is there a way to fix this?
Whaaaa?
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
November 22 2013 08:50 GMT
#551
On November 22 2013 17:38 Ryuu314 wrote:
Personally I think it'd work better if you move Riven mid, Shyvana top and have another jungler.


It's possible. I just proposed such a team comp cause with so much gold flowing into support and jungler pockets, that Morganna and Shyv - two champs who scale well with items - are going to get more from that gold than a normal champ that lanes (ie., Riven).
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-22 09:10:22
November 22 2013 09:09 GMT
#552
annie support was way too good before, now shes absolutely broken...
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 22 2013 09:24 GMT
#553
Runic is the de facto support item right now, right?
liftlift > tsm
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
November 22 2013 09:28 GMT
#554
Support Cassio is freelo in gold right now. Rich as a midlaner and preying on an ADC constantly in lane. Hell yeahs I like S4.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
November 22 2013 09:30 GMT
#555
Everything is chaos. Save yourselves.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-22 09:36:44
November 22 2013 09:34 GMT
#556
So what on earth is going on with this patch? All supports nerfed and given AP scaling but given 10 times more gold? And wtf, support only cannot ward? Do they even understand that after 30 minutes, only the support and maybe jungler even have any slots for wards? If they don't give a seperate ward slot, this is an incredibly stupid change.

With the support changes especially in itemization, I also would just stop playing as traditional supports altogether. Support Annie, Support Cassiopeia, Support Lee Sin, Support Orianna, Support Syndra are going to be the bomb now. Seriously, this is the worst patch I think I've ever seen.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-22 10:00:29
November 22 2013 09:41 GMT
#557
not playing this until they sort this shit out and the game gets some sort of stability. Idk why riot thinks massive changes like this are necessary, were people really that unhappy with how s3 was? They could've tweaked some things about wards and minions (while inhib is down) and shit and the game would've been perfectly fine. But now they completely overhaul everything and it's a complete mess so far.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
November 22 2013 09:42 GMT
#558
On November 22 2013 18:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Runic is the de facto support item right now, right?

Do you mean Relic Shield/Targon? If so, yes. That item is way too good. It's basically Heart of Gold back from the dead.
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
November 22 2013 09:53 GMT
#559
I guess this patch was just too much for the PBE...honestly did it skip straight to live? League of Clevers was one thing, league of targon just eliminated two named positions. Really, if you can't lane, support!
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
November 22 2013 10:09 GMT
#560
I saw a youtube video of HotshotGG where he plays nidalee top and it inspired me to pick up the champ. I have a few days where I want to give it before I dive back into ranked anyway because it's going to be all jacked up with the new items/masteries.

So, I've looked for some guides, but they all seem to be along the lines of what you'd build on jax (Triforce>BotRK into randuins, spirit visage). The way I was watching hotshot build nidalee in the game I was watching was like Frozen fist>All tanky items. I've seen other games where he goes Frozen mallet with phantom dancer into tanky items.

I've played a few games with nid so far, and went frozen fist>tank both times, and it seemed pretty strong in lane, but as the game goes on I just didn't know what to do really, you know? I stayed in my lane with some wards and pushed my second tower. One game my team did well and we won the game pretty easily where I would just split push up and my team would do whatever in another lanes and I eventually got thier inhib and we slowly closed it out. The other game our mid died like 100 times to a syndra. We tried split pushing for ahwile because we couldnt really teamfight, then we started teamfighting a bit to see if we could make something happen with my tankiness, but syndra just killed us in 2 or 3 seconds.

With item builds, what are the pros and cons to the Frozen fist build vs Tri>BotRK build? Also, when should I be grouping with my team vs when should I be split pushing? When I'm playing renekton I really want to take advantage of my victory in lane early and abuse my ult/sunfire to make some things happen midgame. For nidalee, it seems more conducive to sitting in your lane for a long time, and I'm not really clear on when to do stuff with my team.

S4 so far is really weird, hope things go ok
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
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