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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On December 09 2013 11:52 Ketara wrote: Vayne outduels Quinn, I'm not sure how that's even a conversation topic. Quinn has a stronger early game and a weaker late game, IMO. Also ult adds a lot of roaming potential. Depends, actually. If Vayne stun or Quinn blind. Quinn beats Vayne normally, if she gets a sweeper or pink. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
I assumed he was talking about the (actually useful) comparison of dueling a diver 1v1. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Too, too too many games I see Vaynes just feed right from the laning and even though she becomes better later on, it might already be too late. Furthermore, what if the enemy team picks Vayne or she's banned? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
inb4 "bad build". was thinking why this was possibly a decent build, he was aiming for a 2 item offensive timing, which allowed him to have a defensive 3rd item (qss against zed). Without losing out in damage at that 3rd item timing. Typical 2 item building with Vayne would be BotRK + PD, anyone got damage comparison at 2items between BotRK+PD vs LW+PD on Vayne, on high armor value targets? | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On December 09 2013 12:32 wei2coolman wrote: Was watching LCS promo, watched Tails build LW first, into PD on Vayne. inb4 "bad build". was thinking why this was possibly a decent build, he was aiming for a 2 item offensive timing, which allowed him to have a defensive 3rd item (qss against zed). Without losing out in damage at that 3rd item timing. Typical 2 item building with Vayne would be BotRK + PD, anyone got damage comparison at 2items between BotRK+PD vs LW+PD on Vayne, on high armor value targets? Well besides it being relatively cheaper (I think it's like 6k for BotRK + PD vs. the 5k for LW + PD) it means the first defensive item built against Vayne (usually Sunfire, sometimes Randuins) is basically negated, meaning she can continue to do chunks of damage at low levels when you do the first or second team fight (usually around level 8 - 11), plus you having 2 offensive items vs. the 1 to 1.5 of the opposing AD is usually better for that team fight situation. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On December 09 2013 12:32 wei2coolman wrote: Was watching LCS promo, watched Tails build LW first, into PD on Vayne. inb4 "bad build". was thinking why this was possibly a decent build, he was aiming for a 2 item offensive timing, which allowed him to have a defensive 3rd item (qss against zed). Without losing out in damage at that 3rd item timing. Typical 2 item building with Vayne would be BotRK + PD, anyone got damage comparison at 2items between BotRK+PD vs LW+PD on Vayne, on high armor value targets? Sometimes you just build what you can afford yo. But really IDK. On Vayne, almost every build works, because you can choose to be all about Tumble, Silver Bolts, a Combination, or Pure Duelist. Edit: And that build resulted in a loss of a very important fight. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
If you do LW and PD, I would just make PD first. However, just for a 2 item timing I'd actually do BotRK + LW instead. | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On December 09 2013 11:55 Lord Tolkien wrote: Depends, actually. If Vayne stun or Quinn blind. Quinn beats Vayne normally, if she gets a sweeper or pink. Not when I tried it, I've tried fucking everything to beat vayne 1v1 and you just get dumpstered basically no matter what. Its something that seems winnable until you actually do it. | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
what what~ | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
Trying to do a back-flip off of me? How about I flip you over my back instead? | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On December 09 2013 15:13 Alzadar wrote: I've only played against top Quinn as Singed, and that's a hilarious match-up, easy as pie for Singed. Trying to do a back-flip off of me? How about I flip you over my back instead? yeah, when they added the interrupt it fixedf things like voli still flipping you when you vault, but a buffered fling always goes off. op. Quinn beats lots of people. She's strong as fuck. Everyone tunnels on her ult making her melee. | ||
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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