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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
December 09 2013 02:55 GMT
#3581
On December 09 2013 11:52 Ketara wrote:
Vayne outduels Quinn, I'm not sure how that's even a conversation topic.

Quinn has a stronger early game and a weaker late game, IMO.

Also ult adds a lot of roaming potential.

Depends, actually. If Vayne stun or Quinn blind.

Quinn beats Vayne normally, if she gets a sweeper or pink.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 09 2013 03:00 GMT
#3582
When are they dueling each other?

I assumed he was talking about the (actually useful) comparison of dueling a diver 1v1.
Freeeeeeedom
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-09 03:09:46
December 09 2013 03:09 GMT
#3583
its like the fact that Quinn has a much easier time early doesn't even count...

Too, too too many games I see Vaynes just feed right from the laning and even though she becomes better later on, it might already be too late.


Furthermore, what if the enemy team picks Vayne or she's banned?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 09 2013 03:32 GMT
#3584
Was watching LCS promo, watched Tails build LW first, into PD on Vayne.
inb4 "bad build".
was thinking why this was possibly a decent build, he was aiming for a 2 item offensive timing, which allowed him to have a defensive 3rd item (qss against zed). Without losing out in damage at that 3rd item timing.
Typical 2 item building with Vayne would be BotRK + PD, anyone got damage comparison at 2items between BotRK+PD vs LW+PD on Vayne, on high armor value targets?
liftlift > tsm
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-09 03:39:27
December 09 2013 03:38 GMT
#3585
On December 09 2013 12:32 wei2coolman wrote:
Was watching LCS promo, watched Tails build LW first, into PD on Vayne.
inb4 "bad build".
was thinking why this was possibly a decent build, he was aiming for a 2 item offensive timing, which allowed him to have a defensive 3rd item (qss against zed). Without losing out in damage at that 3rd item timing.
Typical 2 item building with Vayne would be BotRK + PD, anyone got damage comparison at 2items between BotRK+PD vs LW+PD on Vayne, on high armor value targets?


Well besides it being relatively cheaper (I think it's like 6k for BotRK + PD vs. the 5k for LW + PD) it means the first defensive item built against Vayne (usually Sunfire, sometimes Randuins) is basically negated, meaning she can continue to do chunks of damage at low levels when you do the first or second team fight (usually around level 8 - 11), plus you having 2 offensive items vs. the 1 to 1.5 of the opposing AD is usually better for that team fight situation.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-09 03:47:25
December 09 2013 03:44 GMT
#3586
On December 09 2013 12:32 wei2coolman wrote:
Was watching LCS promo, watched Tails build LW first, into PD on Vayne.
inb4 "bad build".
was thinking why this was possibly a decent build, he was aiming for a 2 item offensive timing, which allowed him to have a defensive 3rd item (qss against zed). Without losing out in damage at that 3rd item timing.
Typical 2 item building with Vayne would be BotRK + PD, anyone got damage comparison at 2items between BotRK+PD vs LW+PD on Vayne, on high armor value targets?


Sometimes you just build what you can afford yo.

But really IDK. On Vayne, almost every build works, because you can choose to be all about Tumble, Silver Bolts, a Combination, or Pure Duelist.

Edit: And that build resulted in a loss of a very important fight.
Freeeeeeedom
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-09 03:46:52
December 09 2013 03:46 GMT
#3587
I dare say that LW first is always terrible on Vayne.

If you do LW and PD, I would just make PD first.

However, just for a 2 item timing I'd actually do BotRK + LW instead.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
December 09 2013 03:49 GMT
#3588
tails is known for buying really random shit that doesn't make sense, so don't look too deep into it.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
December 09 2013 03:52 GMT
#3589
Here's my input on the subject: get the bork instead.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
December 09 2013 03:59 GMT
#3590
On December 09 2013 11:55 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 11:52 Ketara wrote:
Vayne outduels Quinn, I'm not sure how that's even a conversation topic.

Quinn has a stronger early game and a weaker late game, IMO.

Also ult adds a lot of roaming potential.

Depends, actually. If Vayne stun or Quinn blind.

Quinn beats Vayne normally, if she gets a sweeper or pink.


Not when I tried it, I've tried fucking everything to beat vayne 1v1 and you just get dumpstered basically no matter what. Its something that seems winnable until you actually do it.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
December 09 2013 04:32 GMT
#3591
does quinn really beat anybody? :|
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 09 2013 04:32 GMT
#3592
In the top lane she does

what what~
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
December 09 2013 06:13 GMT
#3593
I've only played against top Quinn as Singed, and that's a hilarious match-up, easy as pie for Singed.

Trying to do a back-flip off of me? How about I flip you over my back instead?
I am the Town Medic.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 09 2013 06:36 GMT
#3594
On December 09 2013 15:13 Alzadar wrote:
I've only played against top Quinn as Singed, and that's a hilarious match-up, easy as pie for Singed.

Trying to do a back-flip off of me? How about I flip you over my back instead?


yeah, when they added the interrupt it fixedf things like voli still flipping you when you vault, but a buffered fling always goes off. op.


Quinn beats lots of people. She's strong as fuck. Everyone tunnels on her ult making her melee.
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wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
December 09 2013 07:41 GMT
#3595
quinn was kind of unique in the fact that she could catch people in stupid situations really easily in soloq. now she just gets outclassed by sivir. sure you can play her top but i'm not a believer anymore (she is still my most played).
BW -> League -> CSGO
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
December 09 2013 07:42 GMT
#3596
Could somebody give me a quick tl;dr on what happened to Quantic? I just saw that AMA request for Locodoco on reddit and some (upvoted) commenter roughly said "it must suck to lose your spot due to the incompetence of your manager like that".
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-09 07:53:14
December 09 2013 07:52 GMT
#3597
i'm guessing something about shitty isp causing them to have all sorts of issues that the manager should be taking care of. from what i read, they had to go to some internet cafe to play their games and even there had issues.
BW -> League -> CSGO
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
December 09 2013 08:09 GMT
#3598
Oh, that sounds very unfortunate. I'm assuming they're out for good now?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 09 2013 08:33 GMT
#3599
I find it unbelievable that so many teams in NA manage to run into so many internet/isp problems. It's 2013 and people still can't manage to get their internet stuff sorted out?
liftlift > tsm
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 09 2013 08:39 GMT
#3600
Lazyness+lack of research into a city's ISP. Internet companies tend to have virtual monopolies in cities meaning if you live in a city with shitty providers you have no choice but to have shitty internet. I don't think people have really realized that or take it into consideration. It's quite sad 'cause I think Quantic would've really done quite well.
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