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Bumblebee
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ArchAngelSC
England706 Posts
Sad times. I'm looking for a duo partner on EUW around plat 2 who mains support | ||
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Gahlo
United States35154 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On December 08 2013 18:46 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: People are still doing this retardation on Quinn. Once a pro plays her on stream and goes BT first she will be fotm op, no doubt in my mind. I don't think going BT first would fix Quinn. She actually doesn't scale all that well with AD. Quinns ult combo only has between a 1.35 to 1.85 AD ratio, depending on target health, and Skystrike never actually does max damage because it only does full damage when the target has 0 HP. Compare that to more conventional BT first ADCs. Graves combo - 2.0 to 2.76 AD Varus combo - 2.2 AD Draven combo - 1.79 to 3.15 AD etcetera What Quinn does scale really well with is armor pen and cooldown reduction, and there's not really much itemization that goes in that direction. If Ghostblade got a buff she'd really like it. I do agree that rushing BotRK on her is kinda dumb, though. I like to rush Bilgewater and then finish BotRK as 2nd or even 3rd item. | ||
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trollbone
France1905 Posts
 Feels awesome when u set up goals for yourself (i was gold 5 at the beginning of the season) and you exceed them !! | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4122 Posts
On December 09 2013 01:10 ArchAngelSC wrote: Sad times. I'm looking for a duo partner on EUW around plat 2 who mains support Message Prog. He is Platinum 1 and mains support. I don't know if he's interested though. I've got a killer Sona and a decent Taric, but I don't support a whole lot in soloq. Edit: Grats! | ||
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Bumblebee
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
As solo top Taric I dealt 35k+ dmg to the enemy champions with a build of Mercs, Iceborn Gauntlet, Athenes Unholy Grail, Randuin's Omen, Guardian Angel(380 armor, 180 mres abouts, and a revive of course). Our incredibly fed Katarina who was 1-shotting everyone dealt 37k and our 16-4-9 Twitch dealt 32k. I feel like the only problem with Taric is the lack of mobility so if they don't have ~3 melees for you to constantly whack on to reset your cooldowns and they have champions like Lux, Ezreal, Nidalee, you're going to be in trouble. Otherwise he's just the most free elo you've ever seen. Go ahead, spam free elo before he's nerfed. Sorry about posting so much about Taric now, he's my new Fiora? | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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trollbone
France1905 Posts
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
On December 09 2013 01:19 Gahlo wrote: Anybody think IEdge needs a buff? I hear people talking about how bruisers are super hard to deal with and fewer and fewer Marksmen feel incentive to buy it until 3rd/4th item. Maybe revert the 10AD nerf from preseason S3? Maybe a cost reduction? More like the synergy of a few of the tanker bruisers and the new defensive mastery needs a nerf. Mundo & Rengar are both just dumb currently, and Shyv is pretty close but doesn't have quite the same sustain train wreck. SV's bonus to healing would be an excellent target for a big ole nerfbatting. Defensive items giving offensive scaling, with indefinite sustain and the ability to almost permanently slow/stun someone sounds pretty strong doesn't it? E: Taric too, but he's even more broken. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
I don't know, i've only seen him twice recently and both times he's just fed. I don't see much use for him. His lack of both hard CC and gapcloser really hurts(Udyr is hurt by the lack of gapcloser as well but at least he has hard CC and his speedboost isn't an ultimate). They'd need to make tenacity affect Ignite duration to make Mundo viable, I feel(only the healing debuff duration). | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 09 2013 01:19 Gahlo wrote: Anybody think IEdge needs a buff? I hear people talking about how bruisers are super hard to deal with and fewer and fewer Marksmen feel incentive to buy it until 3rd/4th item. Maybe revert the 10AD nerf from preseason S3? Maybe a cost reduction? 10 ad won't change too much imo. IE does plenty of damage, the problem is it's very hard to do well in lane and get IE first. Need to revert changes to PD to give more MS and more AS. Also has to do with champ kits as well, burst oriented adc's more popular now. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On December 08 2013 22:27 Numy wrote: I thought people were saying his nerfs actually made him stronger or did they do another round of nerfs? Not sure about stronger, but it changed the way people play him. Now people max E instead of Q because of the damage nerfs/silence buff on Q. I mean, he's certainly more fragile in lane with the MR nerfs. | ||
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
And I'm going to say this now, but he's the least annoying ADC out of all of those that used to have crazy lane dominance. Honestly, fuck Draven. | ||
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