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On November 22 2013 03:29 Inflexion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 03:19 thenexusp wrote:On November 22 2013 03:11 Inflexion wrote:On November 22 2013 02:54 canikizu wrote:On November 22 2013 02:50 xarchaosx wrote:
After one game in the jungle as eve I felt as though I was swimming in gold that I normally wouldn't have had. I went elder Lizard. I was able to get a kill on a gank but by the mid game I had much more gold. I was in a weird place because with the extra gold I had no clue what to build and it was only like 25 mins and I had elder Lizard, sorc boots, lliandry's and rylai's and a cowl. But my team started Rolling at some point there. I believe there is much more potential to be a carry in the new jungle. I like it so far... I thought the lizard true damage proc only activate with physical damage? Eve deals magic damage most of the time, right? except her autoattack of course. Eve relies a lot on her autos early game as her E gives her increased attack speed. Spirit of the Elder Lizard before the patch was already a core item for her as it gave her faster clear speeds, CDR and a boat load of damage. Most Eve's built AP after the spirit of elder lizard as her AP scaling into the late game was pretty strong. I feel she is so ridiculously strong after this patch, even OP - now with increased gold coming from the Spirit of the Elder Lizard (watched a few D1/Challenger Jungle streams and they were swimming in gold), combined with kills/assists/ganking snowballing the gold power curve. Not only this but any champs who use both do AP/AD damage (hybrid damage) got a buff as they combined the 6% Armor and Magic Penetration mastery into one. Champs that have AP scaling with their kit and an AA steroid (Tristana, Shyv, Eve, etc.) are gonna be soooooooo strong this patch as it is going to make it extremely difficult to itemize against them throughout the game. Yeah, but the 6% duel penetration costs 3 points instead of 1, so it's far less efficient than before. Not to mention it's pretty deep on the tree to boot. That's true. We will see how it works out. Back to Eve. I feel almost no reason to spec anything other than 30/0/0 as Eve. I don't even main jungle but when I do and play Eve, she was already pretty snowbally going 21/9/0. The Spell Weaving and Blade Weaving masteries compliment her kit so well. I feel, now, after 1 successful gank as Eve, she will be so far ahead and will be able to come to ANY lane, shit on any 2v2s and outduel ANYONE in the jungle as her damage output is just so ridiculous. In addition, she has no real mana issues as her passive grants so much mana regen while rotating in between lanes.
I usually go 9/21/0 as Jungle Eve, otherwise you'll die to blue buff. At least in my experience
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On November 22 2013 03:23 wei2coolman wrote:
just watching streams of new patch, god some of the new item icons are ugly.
Speaking of this, I still don't understand why they changed the improved recall mastery. The name and the icon were pretty obvious, now it's... a guy thinking ?
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On November 22 2013 03:31 MattBarry wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 03:29 Inflexion wrote:On November 22 2013 03:19 thenexusp wrote:On November 22 2013 03:11 Inflexion wrote:On November 22 2013 02:54 canikizu wrote:On November 22 2013 02:50 xarchaosx wrote:
After one game in the jungle as eve I felt as though I was swimming in gold that I normally wouldn't have had. I went elder Lizard. I was able to get a kill on a gank but by the mid game I had much more gold. I was in a weird place because with the extra gold I had no clue what to build and it was only like 25 mins and I had elder Lizard, sorc boots, lliandry's and rylai's and a cowl. But my team started Rolling at some point there. I believe there is much more potential to be a carry in the new jungle. I like it so far... I thought the lizard true damage proc only activate with physical damage? Eve deals magic damage most of the time, right? except her autoattack of course. Eve relies a lot on her autos early game as her E gives her increased attack speed. Spirit of the Elder Lizard before the patch was already a core item for her as it gave her faster clear speeds, CDR and a boat load of damage. Most Eve's built AP after the spirit of elder lizard as her AP scaling into the late game was pretty strong. I feel she is so ridiculously strong after this patch, even OP - now with increased gold coming from the Spirit of the Elder Lizard (watched a few D1/Challenger Jungle streams and they were swimming in gold), combined with kills/assists/ganking snowballing the gold power curve. Not only this but any champs who use both do AP/AD damage (hybrid damage) got a buff as they combined the 6% Armor and Magic Penetration mastery into one. Champs that have AP scaling with their kit and an AA steroid (Tristana, Shyv, Eve, etc.) are gonna be soooooooo strong this patch as it is going to make it extremely difficult to itemize against them throughout the game. Yeah, but the 6% duel penetration costs 3 points instead of 1, so it's far less efficient than before. Not to mention it's pretty deep on the tree to boot. That's true. We will see how it works out. Back to Eve. I feel almost no reason to spec anything other than 30/0/0 as Eve. I don't even main jungle but when I do and play Eve, she was already pretty snowbally going 21/9/0. The Spell Weaving and Blade Weaving masteries compliment her kit so well. I feel, now, after 1 successful gank as Eve, she will be so far ahead and will be able to come to ANY lane, shit on any 2v2s and outduel ANYONE in the jungle as her damage output is just so ridiculous. In addition, she has no real mana issues as her passive grants so much mana regen while rotating in between lanes. I usually go 9/21/0 as Jungle Eve, otherwise you'll die to blue buff. At least in my experience
Yeah, that can happen if you don't get a super leash. However, if you get a super leash and don't need to waste smite on your first buff and properly kite your second buff, you can get to top lane at about 80% with only using 3 pots. If you mirror the other jungler, you will get top lane a few seconds ahead. This gives you enough time to jug another pot, and there are not many junglers that can beat eve 2v2 (although this depends on your top laner).
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On November 22 2013 03:33 -Zoda- wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 03:23 wei2coolman wrote:
just watching streams of new patch, god some of the new item icons are ugly. Speaking of this, I still don't understand why they changed the improved recall mastery. The name and the icon were pretty obvious, now it's... a guy thinking ?
"to back, or not to back? that is the question"
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Tried Jax with the "weaving" masteries... at level 6 my autos were dealing 100 damage to the Wight. Attacked thrice, 100 on each, kept attacking, still 100, but it became 105 on the 6th attack (that triggered my passive for the second time).
It could have been executioner but that only works on champions. So I have no idea why that happened, and if his ult works with these masteries or not (but I'd say no according to the first 5 attacks).
Edit: I'm dumb, it only works on champions and I tried that without any bot.
... but then again, how did my damage increase then?
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On November 22 2013 01:58 Vlanitak wrote:
dear god I have never been this rich ingame without doing anything... w-what do I do with all of it? I literally item maxed at 20min in a game as Janna, Im loving this
Could you link item/mastery build please?
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Watching SaintV going through all the champs, and the changes, pretty interesting.
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Pretty depressing to see progamers open their stream and discover masteries in-game.
As a pro, the first thing you should have done this morning is sit down with your team and a calculator. Which most asian teams did I would hope.
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Mannnn
Legendary Nasus skin is fucking 1820?
Fuck that shit---now I don't own all the dog skins anymore. 
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On November 22 2013 03:54 WaveofShadow wrote:Mannnn Legendary Nasus skin is fucking 1820? Fuck that shit---now I don't own all the dog skins anymore.
Infernal is boring anyway.
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It's the only way of sparing yourself his new VO though.
Also during my test the lense trinket was disabled. Anyone knows why? I assume it's global and not just for some champions.
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On November 22 2013 03:58 Alaric wrote:
It's the only way of sparing yourself his new VO though.
You could probably mod the old voice back in. People still do mod skins, why not some sound files?
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On November 22 2013 03:52 -Zoda- wrote:
Pretty depressing to see progamers open their stream and discover masteries in-game.
As a pro, the first thing you should have done this morning is sit down with your team and a calculator. Which most asian teams did I would hope.
does it matter? it's not like they have LCS next day or anything.
Plus for them, it's more important to play through the masteries, rather than armchair theorycraft.
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Has anyone have trouble keeping up with laners as a jungler? I haven't been able to play yet but from the patch notes it sure seems that clearing the jungle has become a lot harder considering how all the camps have more health and damage.
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On November 22 2013 03:56 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 03:54 WaveofShadow wrote:Mannnn Legendary Nasus skin is fucking 1820? Fuck that shit---now I don't own all the dog skins anymore. Infernal is boring anyway.
rito doge is better, I agree.
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On November 22 2013 04:07 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 03:56 Requizen wrote:On November 22 2013 03:54 WaveofShadow wrote:Mannnn Legendary Nasus skin is fucking 1820? Fuck that shit---now I don't own all the dog skins anymore. Infernal is boring anyway. rito doge is better, I agree.
I got that skin at PAX before I even played League.
Free doge best doge
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On November 22 2013 03:52 -Zoda- wrote:
Pretty depressing to see progamers open their stream and discover masteries in-game.
As a pro, the first thing you should have done this morning is sit down with your team and a calculator. Which most asian teams did I would hope.
really?
it should take like 30 seconds to figure out a 90% optimal set up
and masteries are generally less important than how well you play
you shouldn't even need a calculator the worth of things gets ingrained in your head pretty fast at least approximately`
anyway they arent playing pro games so why worry right then
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On November 21 2013 17:13 Lord Tolkien wrote:
The Tenacious mastery intrigues me. 4-20 armor and 2-10 MR at max level, it's a pretty hefty investment for teamfighting durability.
Trying to think if the Second Wind passive is good enough to forgo either the Armor/MR trees in defense for certain champs that rely on sustain. Probably not unless you're Zac or Mundo tier, however.
Alchemist/Culinary Master is pretty bonkers, however. It seems like a nerf to flask, though, as pots now have increased efficiency. Whether or not Alchemist affects Flask is a question.
Tenacious(which I think should be Legendary Guardian, they just swapped the labels) and Perserverence/Second wind is like... the only high ranking options where I feel tension in which to pick.
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second wind is bad
perserverence is better than warmogs passive
get tenacious and perserverence every game
why would you think tenacious is a hefty investment?
3 points for 5 armour/mr
4 points for 4+2 with ONE champ
even in a 1v1 its worth
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On November 22 2013 04:01 GettingIt wrote:
Has anyone have trouble keeping up with laners as a jungler? I haven't been able to play yet but from the patch notes it sure seems that clearing the jungle has become a lot harder considering how all the camps have more health and damage.
It sure feels that way. I always felt super behind. But then again... never been this rich. It feels like EVERYONE is super fucking rich tho nowadays. Time to bust out the op scaling lategame champions, they should peak now in midgame lol.
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