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[Patch 3.14] PreSeason 4 General Discussion - Page 127
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1s0gkx/were_the_yasuo_team_ama/cdspwrd | ||
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
Ya, I was wondering why no one picked him, he showed to be pretty good. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On December 04 2013 06:13 -Zoda- wrote: https://twitter.com/clgaming/status/407973693814345728 Ya, I was wondering why no one picked him, he showed to be pretty good. Unless dexter shoots doublelift he's obviously going to get chosen, NA jungle pool is pretty meh who else would they get if dexter doesn't pass, scubachris? | ||
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Don_Julio
2220 Posts
On December 04 2013 06:18 Fusilero wrote: Unless dexter shoots doublelift he's obviously going to get chosen, NA jungle pool is pretty meh who else would they get if dexter doesn't pass, scubachris? TrickZ emerged to be CLG's main shotcaller instantly. While Dexter is used to talk LoL in English language could still be hurdle to become the leader of the team immediately. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 04 2013 06:07 Alaric wrote: Nocturne is such a piece of trash in this jungle and with that gold income. Not touching him again with a ten-foot pole. inb4 darkness. also, relevant in regards to jungle gold. why is wriggles such a trash item? | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On December 04 2013 06:12 mordek wrote: Smash makes a couple appearances in the Yasuo AMA regarding melee carries: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1s0gkx/were_the_yasuo_team_ama/cdspwrd Blurg. They still haven't addressed that not only is he a melle Assassin/Carry, but that he also is manaless. You know, combining 2 things that are hard to balance in one. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On December 04 2013 06:22 Don_Julio wrote: TrickZ emerged to be CLG's main shotcaller instantly. While Dexter is used to talk LoL in English language could still be hurdle to become the leader of the team immediately. While they said in some interviews after the trickz & Aphro pickup that they are happy they have a jungler that talks and takes the initiative to make calls, Doublelift in his Post IEM Travis interview said that they pretty much always called him down for boot ganks, so either nerves or he just isn't the shotcaller they desired. Which is probably the reason they released him again. | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On December 04 2013 06:47 SagaZ wrote: wriggles is trash because by the time you get it your lanes are taking 80% of the jungle mobs That, and it has stats no one wants to itemize for. Attack speed on a mid-range item? Seriously? What kind of melee attacking champion (ie jungler) wants to itemize attack speed going into a mid game fight? Riot just leaving the item trash cuz they hate laning champs buying jungle items for some asinine reason. That and it's stat value is maybe 1k in combat stats at best.... Where as spirit items are all in the 2500 range f for 2k gold and a better passive. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Wriggle's Lantern gives you a ward because with the red trinket you otherwise might not have enough slots after midgame. | ||
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Drium
United States888 Posts
On December 04 2013 06:12 mordek wrote: Smash makes a couple appearances in the Yasuo AMA regarding melee carries: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1s0gkx/were_the_yasuo_team_ama/cdspwrd People always say melee carries are bad but nasus, riven, jax, trynd are doing fine. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On December 04 2013 06:47 SagaZ wrote: wriggles is trash because by the time you get it your lanes are taking 80% of the jungle mobs And that defeats the Wriggles purpose. I mean, if you get Wriggle, you and your team should plan to have you as a carry jungler. If they take your farm, then you're obviously not the carry, so wriggle or not, it's null. Wriggle is item for carry, so if you don't have your farm, that's not the wriggle's fault, it's the team comp fault. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23417 Posts
On December 04 2013 08:02 Drium wrote: People always say melee carries are bad but nasus, riven, jax, trynd are doing fine. Nasus is a tank Jax is a regular bruiser Trynd has 6 second immunity to all damage and he doesnt see much competitive play anyways Riven is the only maybe applicable one here but still plays more like an assassin Master Yi is the closest I would say to what a melee carry is by the standard definition | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Master Yi and Fiora are melee carries. Both are shit. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
It also locks you out of buying the spirit stone items, which are still pretty good stat-wise. On top of that, the spirit stone items generate comparable amounts of gold while actually having relevant stats, making Wriggle's seem even worse in comparison. Whether an item is good or not isn't simply if the item performs well in a vacuum, but also how it is relative to other items. An item can give you 100 AD for 300 gold, but no one would ever buy it if there's another item that gives 500 AD for 350 gold. That's basically the issue of Wriggle's v. Spirit Stone items. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On December 04 2013 08:11 Slayer91 wrote: Nasus is a tank Jax is a regular bruiser Trynd has 6 second immunity to all damage and he doesnt see much competitive play anyways Riven is the only maybe applicable one here but still plays more like an assassin Master Yi is the closest I would say to what a melee carry is by the standard definition Plus, its not that Melle carries in lol can't be good, its that they cant be good on a sustained and balanced basis. Of those, only Jax and Nasus have ever been "balanced" for several patch cycles. Those 2 also happen to be the Bruiser/Tank (why am I even talking about them anymore?) and they happen to use mana. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On December 04 2013 08:19 cLutZ wrote: Plus, its not that Melle carries in lol can't be good, its that they cant be good on a sustained and balanced basis. Of those, only Jax and Nasus have ever been "balanced" for several patch cycles. Those 2 also happen to be the Bruiser/Tank (why am I even talking about them anymore?) and they happen to use mana. *Inevitable "LoL" needs BKB" comment* | ||
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
On December 04 2013 08:15 Shikyo wrote: Riven imo doesn't count, Riven is a caster... Master Yi and Fiora are melee carries. Both are shit. Yi is not an auto-attack all-star if that's our definition (see :Riven alternatively). I'm not sure why people are so eager to have a full class cannon AD melee character design. It only works if the hero can get either hugely more powerful than the opposition, or spend significant portions of time completely uncounterable, or both. And really none of that is much fun to play against. | ||
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