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[Patch 3.13] Heimer Rework General Discussion - Page 85

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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
November 05 2013 16:19 GMT
#1681
I'm not even sure I want to have this argument, sigh.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
November 05 2013 16:19 GMT
#1682
I have this creeping feeling that 1vs1 ranked is going to be most played of all gamemodes from launch into infinity.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
November 05 2013 16:20 GMT
#1683
On November 06 2013 00:31 Slayer91 wrote:
What are the rules for 1v1 ranked Q's. If it's first to kill nexus I'd love to play nasus and make everyone CRY lol

i play in early morning to auto win 90% of games because people want to play a "quick 1v1" before they go to work.

1v1s don't work on PBE, it's likely they were enabled accidentally (as 1v1 would be on magma chamber, not summoner's rift)

If it uses the same rules as allstars, the win con would be first blood or first tower or 100 cs
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
November 05 2013 16:41 GMT
#1684
Goodbye ARAM queue, hello 1v1 queue!
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SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 16:47:58
November 05 2013 16:42 GMT
#1685
for 21 points:
Offense tree, Ap or AD
Defense tree is jungling or toplaning with the hp regen and laning stats
Utility is support, no1's going to use the %mana

For 9 points:
Offense sucks
Defense is jungling or side laning
Utility is jungling or mid lane

There is no attractive mastery point other than the 21 and 9 key points, and it makes the masterys boring imo. At least last season had the block that required you to make choices, and the penetrations also required choices.

I'll edit by saying that there is 1 point I find interesting: runic shield.
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 16:52:30
November 05 2013 16:48 GMT
#1686
On November 06 2013 01:19 Ketara wrote:
I'm not even sure I want to have this argument, sigh.


lol

i dislike the inclusion of a 1v1 and 2v2 queue tbh its gonna become a breeding ground for toxicity

also i think its dumb to compete with summoner's rift - aram dominion 3v3 doesnt really compete directly with 5v5 but i feel like 1v1 and 2v2 will take away a lot of players from 5v5...
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 16:54:46
November 05 2013 16:50 GMT
#1687
On November 06 2013 01:19 Osmoses wrote:
I have this creeping feeling that 1vs1 ranked is going to be most played of all gamemodes from launch into infinity.


Seeing as it potentially could have 5 times the # of games that a 5v5 would have, I agree by a sheer number standpoint, lol.

Also, these games will be much faster.

On November 06 2013 01:48 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 01:19 Ketara wrote:
I'm not even sure I want to have this argument, sigh.


lol

i dislike the inclusion of a 1v1 and 2v2 queue tbh its gonna become a breeding ground for toxicity

also i think its dumb to compete with summoner's rift - aram dominion 3v3 doesnt really compete directly with 5v5 but i feel like 1v1 and 2v2 will take away a lot of players from 5v5...


...Why does this matter. Like...at all? 1v1s and 2v2s toxic? Then don't play them?

And who cares if it pulls players away from 5v5s? It may even increase the quality of 5v5s (however slightly) because the people queueing up will be the ones who really are invested in the 5v5 team game as opposed to the lone wolves who always want "what the hell, can't 1v1 me noob?"
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
November 05 2013 16:57 GMT
#1688
On November 06 2013 01:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 01:19 Osmoses wrote:
I have this creeping feeling that 1vs1 ranked is going to be most played of all gamemodes from launch into infinity.


Seeing as it potentially could have 5 times the # of games that a 5v5 would have, I agree by a sheer number standpoint, lol.

Also, these games will be much faster.

Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 01:48 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On November 06 2013 01:19 Ketara wrote:
I'm not even sure I want to have this argument, sigh.


lol

i dislike the inclusion of a 1v1 and 2v2 queue tbh its gonna become a breeding ground for toxicity

also i think its dumb to compete with summoner's rift - aram dominion 3v3 doesnt really compete directly with 5v5 but i feel like 1v1 and 2v2 will take away a lot of players from 5v5...


...Why does this matter. Like...at all? 1v1s and 2v2s toxic? Then don't play them?

And who cares if it pulls players away from 5v5s? It may even increase the quality of 5v5s (however slightly) because the people queueing up will be the ones who really are invested in the 5v5 team game as opposed to the lone wolves who always want "what the hell, can't 1v1 me noob?"


because despite all the people spamming 1v1 me noob, everyone understands, at some level, that its not a 1v1 game, so everyone knows to laugh off the idiots who spam that

by introducing a 1v1 queue it legitimizes those complaints, and introduces the justification that 1v1 and 5v5 require different skillsets and you can be a "1v1 player" and do stupid shit in 5v5 and it will be toxic as fuck

can you just imagine someone feeding in a 5v5 game and then saying "lol i own u in 1v1 im challenger 1v1" or some shit

riot should not have gone down this path
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SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
November 05 2013 17:00 GMT
#1689
Besides, every one knows it's not a real 1v1 if the rest of your team doesn't show up
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
November 05 2013 17:00 GMT
#1690
Do you guys think 1v1 will have a different competitive scene ? That would be funny
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
November 05 2013 17:00 GMT
#1691
On November 06 2013 02:00 SagaZ wrote:
Besides, every one knows it's not a real 1v1 if the rest of your team doesn't show up


21v1, that's how we do it
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
November 05 2013 17:02 GMT
#1692
On November 06 2013 02:00 Lylat wrote:
Do you guys think 1v1 will have a different competitive scene ? That would be funny


it will be the same high level players in any competitive capacity, because again, despite what this queue will lead people to believe, there arent distinct "1v1" and "5v5" skillsets, good players will excel at both

if riot goes through i can see them having 1v1 side events at tournaments that prop players can choose to participate in, but outside of a few solo q stars who might get a chance to play, i doubt it will be a distinct circuit
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 05 2013 17:03 GMT
#1693
Will be cool to see pro teams pick mechanically proficient players from ranked 1's. Also it probably reallu nice way to improve laning mechanics
liftlift > tsm
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 17:06:59
November 05 2013 17:06 GMT
#1694
Ranked 1v1s: a rotating cast of Heimer, Riven, and Sivir.

Edit: Oh, also Zed and Nasus, probably.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
November 05 2013 17:06 GMT
#1695
1v1 will be awful way to practice for 5v5 because you get bad habits of practicing as if there is no jungler

alternatively you play as if theres still jungler involved whiel the other guy doesnt and he gets to stomp you cause he gets to overextend like crazy and not get punished in which case you dont learn anything anyways other than "lol if this was a real game my jungler wouldve collected so many free kills already"

and since it will be a queue you bet everyone will be playign for dat W so the vast majority will be overextending and overpushing and playing stupid 1v1 heroes lol
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SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
November 05 2013 17:07 GMT
#1696
I can see some people being good at 1v1 and laning, but bad at 5v5 cause they're stupid. Not saying silvers can beat diamonds at 1v1, but that there might be some diamond 1 5v5 players randomly dominating the 1v1 ladder.
All those "Riven main" at high elo for example.
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
November 05 2013 17:08 GMT
#1697
On November 06 2013 02:07 SagaZ wrote:
I can see some people being good at 1v1 and laning, but bad at 5v5 cause they're stupid. Not saying silvers can beat diamonds at 1v1, but that there might be some diamond 1 5v5 players randomly dominating the 1v1 ladder.
All those "Riven main" at high elo for example.


Will there be bans because it's a Ranked queue? Takes care of that problem straight up.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
November 05 2013 17:09 GMT
#1698
On November 06 2013 02:08 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 02:07 SagaZ wrote:
I can see some people being good at 1v1 and laning, but bad at 5v5 cause they're stupid. Not saying silvers can beat diamonds at 1v1, but that there might be some diamond 1 5v5 players randomly dominating the 1v1 ladder.
All those "Riven main" at high elo for example.


Will there be bans because it's a Ranked queue? Takes care of that problem straight up.

Gg, team didn't ban Riven... wait.
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
November 05 2013 17:10 GMT
#1699
It's fine that they're including 1v1s and 2v2s, people want to play them, and Riot is giving people what they want. Nothing wrong with that. Wish we could get replays, but oh well.
Hey! How you doin'?
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
November 05 2013 17:14 GMT
#1700
On November 06 2013 02:06 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Ranked 1v1s: a rotating cast of Heimer, Riven, and Sivir.

Edit: Oh, also Zed and Nasus, probably.

Aatrox will be strong too (dat passive)
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