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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23362 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 12:36:51
November 05 2013 12:35 GMT
#1641
On November 05 2013 21:35 Alaric wrote:
It's annoying when my top laner dies early as Nautilus because I'll soak up a fuckton of exp and get 6 early, but oftimes I'll still have to spend time top to make sure he doesn't get snowballed on so I won't be able to gank bot with ult while they're still 5, sometimes 4.

... then again I barely play Nautilus since they raped his W.


or just fuck top and gank bottom and you kill 2x the retards instead of letting 1x retard get further behind
also I hardly see how choice of jungler is relevant in this situation. Othre than "can gank bot well". (in which case you probably don't gank top well, udyr/shyv etc would stay to help top and amumu/naut/maokai would gank bot)
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
November 05 2013 12:35 GMT
#1642
On November 05 2013 17:19 Disengaged wrote:
So, I've never sent a gift to anyone before so this is going to sound like a silly question. When you send a gift does it tell the person that gets the gift who sent it without the need to put in the comment that it was you who did? Because I sent a mystery gift to a friend who was offline and is still offline so I just wanna make sure.


Yea it does, it also sends you a message that they've received it and what the skin was
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 05 2013 12:43 GMT
#1643
New mastery thoughts:
Offense-
CDR scaling to 5% now: OCD relieved.
Spell/Blade Weaving: Riven OP.

Defense-
Block: Moved to Tier 1, incredible.
Hardiesness/Resistance: ick, .5 resist values.
Perseverance/Legendary Guardian: Garen/Wukong getting new passives?
Second Wind: Soraka heal on top of this will be nasty.

Utility-
Fleet of Foot: No longer requires out of combat?
Conjuror: Major buff in tandem with Banner repurposing for APcentric pets.
Scavanger: Riot pushing support sloppy seconds hard.
Intelligence: Is pretty dumb!
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
November 05 2013 12:43 GMT
#1644
Hitting 39-41% CDR all the time always did tilt me, nice to see it cleaned up if nothing else.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23362 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 12:51:27
November 05 2013 12:47 GMT
#1645
Block used to block 3 damage for 1 point, it's just so meh now.
They BETTER give garen a new passive, they destroyed him so much with the nerfs to his passive and W wtfff
(like and they nerfed his early damage a lot, riot y u hate garen)

also
gp10 quints+greed+new philo stone+masteries

5 gold per creep you don't kill? That's 63.333 gold/minute when your adc has perfect CS AND it works later on when you are pushing towers you get 63.333 gold per wave.(So your average gold is higher than the rest of the team if they are sharing gold lol)
add that to 7 gold/5 from greed+gp10 quints+philo and you have 35 gold a minute so you're making 100 gold a minute BONUS by sitting in a brush doing nothing as long as the guy is free farming
loool
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 05 2013 12:50 GMT
#1646
I used to play mostly Maokai and Mundo s2, with a bit of Udyr, and Nautilus when he came out (because day1 purchase and a total badass). Then he got shafted as s3 came out (he was unjunglable due to even wraiths breaking his shield before level 3+), while Maoki had heaps of troubles too. So more Udyr.
Vi came out, last day1 purchase, spammed the hell out of her, along Nautilus and some Udyr while Mundo became less relevant in this jungle.
Then Nautilus W raped, so I jungle almost only Vi.

It's not that I put him apart, it's that I mentioned him because he was one of the 2 junglers I played often till recently.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23362 Posts
November 05 2013 12:52 GMT
#1647
you phrased the post as it was a nautilus specific problem though
like people often say it sucks when X happens as Y champion.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 05 2013 12:56 GMT
#1648
Well it sucks more for Nautilus or Amumu to have a snowbally match-up going wrong top because you'll have to choose between letting him get wrecked and missing out on gank timings bot. On the other hand for top-oriented junglers, if you intended to be there anyway there's less of a lose/lose situation.

I don't care in the end I just camp mid, Vi likes them juicy assassins going ham without a care for their back.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
November 05 2013 13:07 GMT
#1649
On November 05 2013 21:47 Slayer91 wrote:
Block used to block 3 damage for 1 point, it's just so meh now.
They BETTER give garen a new passive, they destroyed him so much with the nerfs to his passive and W wtfff
(like and they nerfed his early damage a lot, riot y u hate garen)

also
gp10 quints+greed+new philo stone+masteries

5 gold per creep you don't kill? That's 63.333 gold/minute when your adc has perfect CS AND it works later on when you are pushing towers you get 63.333 gold per wave.(So your average gold is higher than the rest of the team if they are sharing gold lol)
add that to 7 gold/5 from greed+gp10 quints+philo and you have 35 gold a minute so you're making 100 gold a minute BONUS by sitting in a brush doing nothing as long as the guy is free farming
loool


The Rise of the AP supports. Fear that Oriana and Lux
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 05 2013 13:16 GMT
#1650
On November 05 2013 22:07 daemir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 21:47 Slayer91 wrote:
Block used to block 3 damage for 1 point, it's just so meh now.
They BETTER give garen a new passive, they destroyed him so much with the nerfs to his passive and W wtfff
(like and they nerfed his early damage a lot, riot y u hate garen)

also
gp10 quints+greed+new philo stone+masteries

5 gold per creep you don't kill? That's 63.333 gold/minute when your adc has perfect CS AND it works later on when you are pushing towers you get 63.333 gold per wave.(So your average gold is higher than the rest of the team if they are sharing gold lol)
add that to 7 gold/5 from greed+gp10 quints+philo and you have 35 gold a minute so you're making 100 gold a minute BONUS by sitting in a brush doing nothing as long as the guy is free farming
loool


The Rise of the AP supports. Fear that Oriana and Lux

Zyra support becomes even more egregious.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23362 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 13:18:10
November 05 2013 13:17 GMT
#1651
On November 05 2013 22:07 daemir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 21:47 Slayer91 wrote:
Block used to block 3 damage for 1 point, it's just so meh now.
They BETTER give garen a new passive, they destroyed him so much with the nerfs to his passive and W wtfff
(like and they nerfed his early damage a lot, riot y u hate garen)

also
gp10 quints+greed+new philo stone+masteries

5 gold per creep you don't kill? That's 63.333 gold/minute when your adc has perfect CS AND it works later on when you are pushing towers you get 63.333 gold per wave.(So your average gold is higher than the rest of the team if they are sharing gold lol)
add that to 7 gold/5 from greed+gp10 quints+philo and you have 35 gold a minute so you're making 100 gold a minute BONUS by sitting in a brush doing nothing as long as the guy is free farming
loool


The Rise of the AP supports. Fear that Oriana and Lux


countered by support xin and wukong
they are s4 new meta
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
November 05 2013 13:21 GMT
#1652
On November 05 2013 22:17 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 22:07 daemir wrote:
On November 05 2013 21:47 Slayer91 wrote:
Block used to block 3 damage for 1 point, it's just so meh now.
They BETTER give garen a new passive, they destroyed him so much with the nerfs to his passive and W wtfff
(like and they nerfed his early damage a lot, riot y u hate garen)

also
gp10 quints+greed+new philo stone+masteries

5 gold per creep you don't kill? That's 63.333 gold/minute when your adc has perfect CS AND it works later on when you are pushing towers you get 63.333 gold per wave.(So your average gold is higher than the rest of the team if they are sharing gold lol)
add that to 7 gold/5 from greed+gp10 quints+philo and you have 35 gold a minute so you're making 100 gold a minute BONUS by sitting in a brush doing nothing as long as the guy is free farming
loool


The Rise of the AP supports. Fear that Oriana and Lux


countered by support xin and wukong
they are s4 new meta


You forgot Jarvan!!
hi
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23362 Posts
November 05 2013 13:29 GMT
#1653
you mean taric?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 05 2013 13:36 GMT
#1654
On November 05 2013 22:29 Slayer91 wrote:
you mean taric?

My Omen slow duration is... outrageous.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 14:03:31
November 05 2013 14:01 GMT
#1655
On November 05 2013 21:50 Alaric wrote:
I used to play mostly Maokai and Mundo s2, with a bit of Udyr, and Nautilus when he came out (because day1 purchase and a total badass). Then he got shafted as s3 came out (he was unjunglable due to even wraiths breaking his shield before level 3+), while Maoki had heaps of troubles too. So more Udyr.
Vi came out, last day1 purchase, spammed the hell out of her, along Nautilus and some Udyr while Mundo became less relevant in this jungle.
Then Nautilus W raped, so I jungle almost only Vi.

It's not that I put him apart, it's that I mentioned him because he was one of the 2 junglers I played often till recently.

I don't think they "raped" his w, I've been jungling Nautilus since S3 started and he's just as good now as he ever was.

Well maybe not as good as he ever was, but he's still a strong champion. My winrate fell from 89% to 66% from that nerf so I think he wasn't raped so much as balanced
Platinum Support GOD
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
November 05 2013 14:05 GMT
#1656
wait wtf diamondprox is married? that surprised me @_@
TranslatorBaa!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23362 Posts
November 05 2013 14:08 GMT
#1657
mail order brides op
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 15:01:47
November 05 2013 14:19 GMT
#1658
On November 05 2013 23:05 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
wait wtf diamondprox is married? that surprised me @_@

It's been awhile really, he's even got a kid. NA too busy looking at Vileroze eh. Disregard I'm dumb inb4 all Russians are the same.

And I wouldn't pick Nautilus when there's Lee, Aatrox, Jarvan, etc. so popular. Naut's level 3 is uber weak in 2v2 because he needs Q to gank so he won't have a level 2 shield.
On the other hand maybe I should leave my laners by themselves but consdering how often I tell them in chat where the enemy jungler is, or that he's going to hit in the next xx seconds, and they die anyway when my prediction proves true, often I feel like I really need to at least show myself there to make the enemy hesitate.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 05 2013 14:30 GMT
#1659
wat no Diamond doesn't have a kid yet, that's Alex.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
November 05 2013 15:22 GMT
#1660
Well guys

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1pxtv8/ranked_1v1_and_normal_2v2_on_pbe/

Ranked 1v1s. Most relevant question at the top.

GRUDGE MATCH CITAYYYYYYY

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