EPT[Patch 3.13] Heimer Rework General Discussion - Page 56
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On November 03 2013 02:23 Slusher wrote: dunno much about N! Faculty but SK looked really good vs. them. Very low tier, if they go up against TCM, millenium or h2k it'd be a better test. (Copenhagen pups might be a bit too far for a new team) | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 03 2013 00:25 zer0das wrote: I'll be sitting in my "new Heimer sucks" tent mostly alone. Feel free to join me at any time! Yup, he's pretty terrible. The beams are practically useless as they are so trivial to dodge, they have too little HP and die to one AoE(and all will be clumped up because they stop functioning if you move half a screen away). His only usable ult move is the turret and it's of course stationary and has low range and duration. When the enemy wants to kill your turrets he'll be freely able to do so because you cannot ult and turn on him, leaving you helpless. You have no reliable dmg - countered by dashes(good luck vs Ahri). | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Played buffed kha. He's purty good now imo. In good spot. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On November 03 2013 02:41 Shikyo wrote: How does he allin harshly? o.O You have no way to force the opponent to take it, they can just walk away Hit an E stun, then ult W. 560+2.4 AP damage at level 6. For reference, that's a bit more damage than a full Lux combo. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 03 2013 02:42 Ketara wrote: Hit an E stun, then ult W. 560+2.4 AP damage at level 6. For reference, that's a bit more damage than a full Lux combo. Also often you have to walk through 1 or 2 turrets to get to him. So walking out of a fight usually means residual damage from turrets. Not to mention if he gets you with stun and ult, you're sorta fcked. He also doea pretty ridic damage, i never expect it when his rockets burst for fucktons of dmg. New morg does a lot of damage too. The pool burns for sooo much. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 03 2013 02:42 Ketara wrote: Hit an E stun, then ult W. 560+2.4 AP damage at level 6. For reference, that's a bit more damage than a full Lux combo. How do you hit E stun? You have all the time in the world to dodge it and the AoE is like half that of Lay Waste Also the difference between this and Lux combo is that Lux first of all doesnt deal that much dmg for an APC and second, can harrass you easily while vs Heimer you'll stay at full hp. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 03 2013 03:10 turdburgler wrote: get maokai as your jungler, very gank much success. Speaking of which, what particularly made Maokai fall out of favor? I think he's still pretty good, all things considered. I was thinking of grabbing his limited skin, too. | ||
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remedium
United States939 Posts
On November 03 2013 03:13 Requizen wrote: Speaking of which, what particularly made Maokai fall out of favor? I think he's still pretty good, all things considered. I was thinking of grabbing his limited skin, too. I play him in inhouses, he's still really strong. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14220 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 03 2013 03:13 Requizen wrote: Speaking of which, what particularly made Maokai fall out of favor? I think he's still pretty good, all things considered. I was thinking of grabbing his limited skin, too. When I have a Maokai in my team I keep wondering why he didn't pick Zac. Counters Fizz though | ||
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InfSunday
United States735 Posts
The new Morgana pool feels like it does double damage compared to the old one. Tried to lane against one as Nidalee and she pushed me to my tower at like level three without mana problems. Annoying. But then jungle ganked and got a kill, so jokes on her. But still. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
I think he brings more utility than Zac. Maybe not as much teamfight presence, but he makes up for it in other ways imo. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
I'll try to reach double digits in failed promotion series in a row, looking good thus far | ||
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Ethelis
United States2400 Posts
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Argoth.
Germany1961 Posts
On November 03 2013 03:27 GhandiEAGLE wrote: It's not just mana. His waveclear and damage revolves around saplings, which have a huge cd. Mao with blue is totally different than a Mao without. He will be even worse in S4. Blue buff only give 10% CDR in new jungle On November 03 2013 03:32 Ethelis wrote: TL GD, help quick, midalee vs ahri. wat to buy? tear or chalice? Would go chalice vs AP | ||
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