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[Patch 3.13] Heimer Rework General Discussion - Page 56

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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 02 2013 17:23 GMT
#1101
dunno much about N! Faculty but SK looked really good vs. them.
Carrilord has arrived.
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
November 02 2013 17:24 GMT
#1102
Having options at the start is a good thing.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 02 2013 17:25 GMT
#1103
On November 03 2013 02:23 Slusher wrote:
dunno much about N! Faculty but SK looked really good vs. them.

Very low tier, if they go up against TCM, millenium or h2k it'd be a better test. (Copenhagen pups might be a bit too far for a new team)
Glorious SEA doto
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 02 2013 17:33 GMT
#1104
On November 03 2013 00:25 zer0das wrote:
I'll be sitting in my "new Heimer sucks" tent mostly alone. Feel free to join me at any time!

Yup, he's pretty terrible. The beams are practically useless as they are so trivial to dodge, they have too little HP and die to one AoE(and all will be clumped up because they stop functioning if you move half a screen away). His only usable ult move is the turret and it's of course stationary and has low range and duration. When the enemy wants to kill your turrets he'll be freely able to do so because you cannot ult and turn on him, leaving you helpless. You have no reliable dmg - countered by dashes(good luck vs Ahri).
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 02 2013 17:40 GMT
#1105
Heimers kit is purty good imo. Was playing against a lot of dongers recently. He can punish bad ganks and all ins pretty harshly. But with that being said. As jungler I just camp the living shit out of heimer.

Played buffed kha. He's purty good now imo. In good spot.
liftlift > tsm
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 02 2013 17:41 GMT
#1106
How does he allin harshly? o.O You have no way to force the opponent to take it, they can just walk away
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-02 17:43:52
November 02 2013 17:42 GMT
#1107
On November 03 2013 02:41 Shikyo wrote:
How does he allin harshly? o.O You have no way to force the opponent to take it, they can just walk away


Hit an E stun, then ult W.

560+2.4 AP damage at level 6.

For reference, that's a bit more damage than a full Lux combo.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-02 17:49:02
November 02 2013 17:48 GMT
#1108
On November 03 2013 02:42 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 02:41 Shikyo wrote:
How does he allin harshly? o.O You have no way to force the opponent to take it, they can just walk away


Hit an E stun, then ult W.

560+2.4 AP damage at level 6.

For reference, that's a bit more damage than a full Lux combo.

Also often you have to walk through 1 or 2 turrets to get to him. So walking out of a fight usually means residual damage from turrets. Not to mention if he gets you with stun and ult, you're sorta fcked. He also doea pretty ridic damage, i never expect it when his rockets burst for fucktons of dmg. New morg does a lot of damage too. The pool burns for sooo much.
liftlift > tsm
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-02 18:11:43
November 02 2013 18:07 GMT
#1109
On November 03 2013 02:42 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 02:41 Shikyo wrote:
How does he allin harshly? o.O You have no way to force the opponent to take it, they can just walk away


Hit an E stun, then ult W.

560+2.4 AP damage at level 6.

For reference, that's a bit more damage than a full Lux combo.

How do you hit E stun? You have all the time in the world to dodge it and the AoE is like half that of Lay Waste

Also the difference between this and Lux combo is that Lux first of all doesnt deal that much dmg for an APC and second, can harrass you easily while vs Heimer you'll stay at full hp.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
November 02 2013 18:10 GMT
#1110
get maokai as your jungler, very gank much success.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 02 2013 18:13 GMT
#1111
On November 03 2013 03:10 turdburgler wrote:
get maokai as your jungler, very gank much success.

Speaking of which, what particularly made Maokai fall out of favor? I think he's still pretty good, all things considered. I was thinking of grabbing his limited skin, too.
It's your boy Guzma!
remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
November 02 2013 18:20 GMT
#1112
On November 03 2013 03:13 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 03:10 turdburgler wrote:
get maokai as your jungler, very gank much success.

Speaking of which, what particularly made Maokai fall out of favor? I think he's still pretty good, all things considered. I was thinking of grabbing his limited skin, too.


I play him in inhouses, he's still really strong.

Stay positive!
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14115 Posts
November 02 2013 18:20 GMT
#1113
He is insanly blue buff start dependent. like he can't function if he doesn't get blue buff to start and that led to everyone always invading at level 1.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 02 2013 18:21 GMT
#1114
On November 03 2013 03:13 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 03:10 turdburgler wrote:
get maokai as your jungler, very gank much success.

Speaking of which, what particularly made Maokai fall out of favor? I think he's still pretty good, all things considered. I was thinking of grabbing his limited skin, too.

When I have a Maokai in my team I keep wondering why he didn't pick Zac.

Counters Fizz though
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
InfSunday
Profile Joined March 2013
United States735 Posts
November 02 2013 18:22 GMT
#1115
Huh. Mao needs blue. Always invade. The more you know.

The new Morgana pool feels like it does double damage compared to the old one. Tried to lane against one as Nidalee and she pushed me to my tower at like level three without mana problems. Annoying. But then jungle ganked and got a kill, so jokes on her.

But still.
Call me Sunday
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 02 2013 18:24 GMT
#1116
I never felt he was too blue dependent, except like very level 1 when you stack a bunch of saplings. After that I don't think he's as mana hungry as others.

I think he brings more utility than Zac. Maybe not as much teamfight presence, but he makes up for it in other ways imo.
It's your boy Guzma!
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 02 2013 18:27 GMT
#1117
It's not just mana. His waveclear and damage revolves around saplings, which have a huge cd. Mao with blue is totally different than a Mao without.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-02 18:28:06
November 02 2013 18:27 GMT
#1118
What other ways would there be? Zac is a better duelist and a better ganker and counterganker, has a better escape, deals more damage...

I'll try to reach double digits in failed promotion series in a row, looking good thus far
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2397 Posts
November 02 2013 18:32 GMT
#1119
TL GD, help quick, midalee vs ahri. wat to buy? tear or chalice?
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-02 18:33:07
November 02 2013 18:32 GMT
#1120
On November 03 2013 03:27 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
It's not just mana. His waveclear and damage revolves around saplings, which have a huge cd. Mao with blue is totally different than a Mao without.

He will be even worse in S4. Blue buff only give 10% CDR in new jungle
On November 03 2013 03:32 Ethelis wrote:
TL GD, help quick, midalee vs ahri. wat to buy? tear or chalice?


Would go chalice vs AP
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