Well then I'm silly.

Still, GP has high base stats+E bonus AD+Passive+Q to help last hit. Your last hitting tools are fairly varied, so AD runes aren't a necessity.

The_Unseen

France1923 Posts

October 08 2013 16:30 GMT

#1964

Crit/GP10/CDR/GP10 all the way baby

turdburgler

England6749 Posts

October 08 2013 16:33 GMT

#1965

On October 09 2013 01:14 Dandel Ion wrote:
So you guys aren't even playing gp+support top new meta?

gp janna bot with vayne top is the real shit.

Seuss

United States10536 Posts

October 08 2013 16:40 GMT

#1966

Monte's Thought of the Day:

Lucian would be a good AD carry if Ardent Blaze, his W, could be cast while moving.

GhandiEAGLE

United States20754 Posts

October 08 2013 16:45 GMT

#1967

On October 09 2013 01:40 Seuss wrote:
Monte's Thought of the Day:

Lucian would be a good AD carry if Ardent Blaze, his W, could be cast while moving.

Correction: He would be the Most Fun AD.

He's already pretty fun, but tampering with his mana rations would make him badass.

Roffles

Pitcairn19291 Posts

October 08 2013 16:46 GMT

#1968

On October 09 2013 01:40 Seuss wrote:
Monte's Thought of the Day:

Lucian would be a good AD carry if Ardent Blaze, his W, could be cast while moving.

Lucian would be a good AD carry if his ult weren't a complete sack of shit.

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

October 08 2013 16:46 GMT

#1969

I think we should make Buckshot able to be cast while moving while we're at it, it's way too laggy to use properly while kiting currently.

turdburgler

England6749 Posts

October 08 2013 16:56 GMT

#1970

i know you are being sarcastic but the game honestly feels much more fluid and in the end fun on champions that can use spells while moving. its probably imbalanced as fuck if they just flipped every ability to cast while moving but its tons of fun too.

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

October 08 2013 17:03 GMT

#1971

Mmm well I do believe that a lot of what makes Orianna good is that she has no skill animations.

Kyrie

1594 Posts

October 08 2013 17:06 GMT

#1972

the general paradigm is for targeted skills to stop movement while self casts don't. there are exceptions on older champions such as gangplank and janna, but this rule is fairly consistent to my knowledge. orianna is a unique case due to her mechanics, and as mentioned below syndra is an even better example of an exception for champions with object manipulation mechanics

Seuss

United States10536 Posts

October 08 2013 17:12 GMT

#1973

I don't think every ability should be castable while moving. Ardent Blaze, however, should because it's supposed to give Lucian kite/chase potential and doesn't.

A lot of Lucian's issues stem from this. His range is an issue because he can't kite/chase effectively. Part of the reason his ultimate feels so weak is because it feels like it should make up for that, but doesn't (especially when you're often forced to use it against the tanky front line when you'd rather just kite/chase with a better AD). This change wouldn't solve all his problems, but it would at least make his QWE a functioning set of skills, allowing his ultimate to play the clean-up role it was meant for.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

October 08 2013 17:14 GMT

#1974

Except the part where they have actually have and it's why even if the ball is on you there's a slight delay to the shield appearing, not even mentioning how the ball's travel time counts a lot too.
She can cast W and E while moving, iirc Q has a very short animation but apart from a slight pause you keep moving, and R has one animation.

Better example would be Syndra who has an extremely short auto animation (Ori has a slight wind-up), can cast Q and both parts of W while moving and the most important spells (Q and E) are pretty much instant, contrary to Ori. She also has one of the smoothest auto animations in the game. Better example.

On October 09 2013 02:12 Seuss wrote:
allowing his ultimate to play the clean-up role it was meant for.

It wasn't, Daniel Klein has stated again and again (and again) that the purpose is to be used when a normal spell wouldn't, so either because you're so zoned you can't even kite (to let you deal damage where other ADs would either do 0 or plain die), or because all of the remaining targets are out of range.

UniversalSnip

9871 Posts

October 08 2013 17:14 GMT

#1975

I think my favorite skill to add movement during would be tumble. The speeds would be additive so you'd fly across the screen as if you'd turned on jet packs, and you'd have total movement control so you could do little u turns and shit.

overt

United States9006 Posts

October 08 2013 17:17 GMT

#1976

On October 09 2013 02:14 UniversalSnip wrote:
I think my favorite skill to add movement during would be tumble. The speeds would be additive so you'd fly across the screen as if you'd turned on jet packs, and you'd have total movement control so you could do little u turns and shit.

They should just make Tumble work like Rammus' Power Ball. I think it'd look pretty cool.

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

October 08 2013 17:19 GMT

#1977

I honestly think Lucian would get a lot of playing time, and be a good champion, if they just increased his passive to scale to 100% at lvl18

thenexusp

United States3721 Posts

October 08 2013 17:26 GMT

#1978

On October 09 2013 02:17 overt wrote:

Show nested quote +

They should just make Tumble work like Rammus' Power Ball. I think it'd look pretty cool.

Oh good, now I have an image in my head of vayne doing cartwheels across the map

AsnSensation

Germany24009 Posts

October 08 2013 17:31 GMT

#1979

Can't even remember the last time I could play Ranked on EUW between 6 and 10pm.

queues down again haha

UniversalSnip

9871 Posts

October 08 2013 17:37 GMT

#1980

On October 09 2013 02:17 overt wrote:

Show nested quote +

They should just make Tumble work like Rammus' Power Ball. I think it'd look pretty cool.

Like she just tumbles faster and faster?

Actually I think all kinds of skills would be hilarious with tumble... What if she could rappel with it? She'd tumble straight up into the air and then fall down and land on someone.