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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 02 2013 14:53 GMT
#481
Udyr can generally solo baron pretty well, I remember you didn't need miracle items for it and I've tried it pretty recently

Jax also soloes baron well as does Lee Sin.... Can't remember if there was someone else who was exceptional at it(apart from stuff like Nunu) but Udyr's probably your best bet. Especially if he means that for the moment Baron first spawns, though even then I'd imagine you'd need at least a BotRK
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Vegetarian Wolf
Profile Joined May 2010
China434 Posts
October 02 2013 14:56 GMT
#482
Just go to game and test it out, keeping in mind to wait till a game timer when you'd normally get 12 on a jungler without getting absurdly fast, since i assume afkfarming it up would get you to 12 + those items faster than in a "real" game
Awooo...
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
October 02 2013 14:59 GMT
#483
I mean, I know that testing it is the right answer... I just wanted to get thoughts on it since I can't test it yet.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 02 2013 15:09 GMT
#484
I just tested it.

It doesn't work, even if you're level 12 with blue buff and start baron the moment it spawns and have Tabi on top of everything else. It's not even close enough to be feasible.

Also, bear doesn't interrupt the acid.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 02 2013 15:11 GMT
#485
his required item list does not seem tailored to a baron solo at all
Carrilord has arrived.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
October 02 2013 15:11 GMT
#486
On October 03 2013 00:09 Seuss wrote:
I just tested it.

It doesn't work, even if you're level 12 with blue buff and start baron the moment it spawns and have Tabi on top of everything else. It's not even close enough to be feasible.

Also, bear doesn't interrupt the acid.


Thank you Monte. I knew I could count on TL.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 15:14:56
October 02 2013 15:13 GMT
#487
if you could solo baron with sotag and wits end with udyr id have told you guys like a year ago
udyr doesn't solo baron easily, best option is probably wits+wriggles+sotag golem or something with max q w and r and blue buff
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 15:16:42
October 02 2013 15:16 GMT
#488
New theorycraft:

7k gold budget.
no nunu allowed.


what heroes/item builds/runes/masteries can solo baron?
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 15:23:44
October 02 2013 15:17 GMT
#489
apart from the truly cheesy liandrys methods, soloing baron has one primary check - whether or not the champ has enough lifesteal/spellvamp to survive baron. champions that pass this check do so either by having some sort of absurd heal (nunu) or a moderate amount of lifesteal/spellvamp and a whole lot of damage (jax). tanky champions don't fare particularly well against baron because baron solo isn't really about how well you can tank it from pure defensive stats, it's about killing it as fast as possible and being able to regen off the damage dealt

18% lifesteal from turtle stance isn't even close to enough to sustain off the wimpy damage of golem/wits

on the topic of other champs that actually could pull off a reasonable solo, shyvana comes to mind. if the criteria is level 18 with full build, though, pretty much any ad champion can manage it with gimmick lifesteal builds
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 15:19:55
October 02 2013 15:17 GMT
#490
On October 03 2013 00:16 ItsFunToLose wrote:
New theorycraft:

7k gold budget.
no nunu allowed.


what heroes/item builds/runes/masteries can solo baron?



udyr, warwick, fiddles
don't think jax can anymore. Jax was good because a lot of his damage was on hit and wasn't affected therefore by the ad reduction. baron reduces all damage now he doesn't have enough damage now to heal up against baron
this also makes udyr and ww weaker of course but they have a huge amount of sustain so at level 18 with 7k they might barely manage with wriggles and sotag and wits end or something
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 02 2013 15:19 GMT
#491
Most ADCs with BotRK/BT/Red Pot, assuming first-spawn Baron and dodging acid, could possibly do it.

Can Trundle ult Baron? If so, probably with a decent build.

Someone could probably put together a Nasus build that can do it.
It's your boy Guzma!
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
October 02 2013 15:20 GMT
#492
I remember a year ago when Hotshot was streaming, and he went for a tabi 4 cloth + chain vest warwick baron attempt at like 15-20 minutes or something
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
October 02 2013 15:20 GMT
#493
nasus bends the rules because nothing about how long you take so you could never farm any creeps except to Q them until you reach exactly 7k gold but I don't think his R gives enough damage that nasus can do it since he doesn't have insane sustain with ww/udyr/fiddle with blue
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 15:33:39
October 02 2013 15:31 GMT
#494
I don't think Fiddle can do it. He gets his drain cancelled dodging ruptures all day long and then if Baron uses the ancients spell he's dead since he's too squishy. I've tried.

In fact, no champion on a 7k budget can do Baron if they get unlucky and Nashor uses Acid Rain twice. Not even Nunu. This assuming you don't abuse kiting Baron.


I've been thinking of doing health only builds just like people did at the start of S3. Something like Ruby Crystal, Doran's shield/blade if not enough gold for a giants belt. Every time I go for a tank build on Jax I feel pretty useless, but I feel like health is the best combat stat given the resists you get from runes/base stats. Need to check.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 02 2013 15:34 GMT
#495
I'm of that inclination as well. I'm fully prepared for math to prove me wrong, but health feels like a much more practical purchase most of the time, even against bursty champions that you can resist stack against.
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 02 2013 15:38 GMT
#496
On October 03 2013 00:31 obesechicken13 wrote:
I don't think Fiddle can do it. He gets his drain cancelled dodging ruptures all day long and then if Baron uses the ancients spell he's dead since he's too squishy. I've tried.

In fact, no champion on a 7k budget can do Baron if they get unlucky and Nashor uses Acid Rain twice. Not even Nunu. This assuming you don't abuse kiting Baron.


I've been thinking of doing health only builds just like people did at the start of S3. Something like Ruby Crystal, Doran's shield/blade if not enough gold for a giants belt. Every time I go for a tank build on Jax I feel pretty useless, but I feel like health is the best combat stat given the resists you get from runes/base stats. Need to check.

I think you can do it with spectral wraith and frozen heart.
liftlift > tsm
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 15:43:46
October 02 2013 15:42 GMT
#497
On October 03 2013 00:38 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 00:31 obesechicken13 wrote:
I don't think Fiddle can do it. He gets his drain cancelled dodging ruptures all day long and then if Baron uses the ancients spell he's dead since he's too squishy. I've tried.

In fact, no champion on a 7k budget can do Baron if they get unlucky and Nashor uses Acid Rain twice. Not even Nunu. This assuming you don't abuse kiting Baron.


I've been thinking of doing health only builds just like people did at the start of S3. Something like Ruby Crystal, Doran's shield/blade if not enough gold for a giants belt. Every time I go for a tank build on Jax I feel pretty useless, but I feel like health is the best combat stat given the resists you get from runes/base stats. Need to check.

I think you can do it with spectral wraith and frozen heart.

I feel like you'd need to get lucky for baron to not use his acid pool knockup or his knockback attack at the wrong times, though.

Also, another issue is that they recently changed baron's debuff from -50% AD to -50% damage dealt to baron, which impacts the amount you can vamp.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 02 2013 15:50 GMT
#498
On October 03 2013 00:42 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 00:38 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 03 2013 00:31 obesechicken13 wrote:
I don't think Fiddle can do it. He gets his drain cancelled dodging ruptures all day long and then if Baron uses the ancients spell he's dead since he's too squishy. I've tried.

In fact, no champion on a 7k budget can do Baron if they get unlucky and Nashor uses Acid Rain twice. Not even Nunu. This assuming you don't abuse kiting Baron.


I've been thinking of doing health only builds just like people did at the start of S3. Something like Ruby Crystal, Doran's shield/blade if not enough gold for a giants belt. Every time I go for a tank build on Jax I feel pretty useless, but I feel like health is the best combat stat given the resists you get from runes/base stats. Need to check.

I think you can do it with spectral wraith and frozen heart.

I feel like you'd need to get lucky for baron to not use his acid pool knockup or his knockback attack at the wrong times, though.

Also, another issue is that they recently changed baron's debuff from -50% AD to -50% damage dealt to baron, which impacts the amount you can vamp.

Hmm, true. Maybe Spectral Wraith+SV+Glacial Shroud? Dunno, but 7k budget is pretty small.
But the starting baron is pretty weak too though.
liftlift > tsm
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
October 02 2013 15:57 GMT
#499
Mundo might do it with Spectral Wraith
cool beans
ShoreT
Profile Joined August 2008
United States489 Posts
October 02 2013 15:59 GMT
#500
Mundo? Cleavers still hurt baron pretty badly. SV + liandries + as much armor as possible?
Derp
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