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Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
October 02 2013 18:46 GMT
#521
Why is there such a huge ass queue on EUW again. I just wanna test the new patch
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 18:47:31
October 02 2013 18:46 GMT
#522
On October 03 2013 03:40 DrunkenOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 03:37 obesechicken13 wrote:
On October 03 2013 03:36 DrunkenOne wrote:
Whoa government killed silk road. The founder hired a hitman to kill some hacker who was trying to blackmail him by releasing user info. Court docs allege the site had $1.2 billion in transactions and 957k accounts. Lol drug prohibition. Pretty insane read if you aren't following this, just broke within the last 2 hours or so. Gonna make an amazing movie.

Interesting. But what does this have to do with lol?

performance enhancement drugs obviously :O

I bet in the movie the guy actually does use hacks and has matrix numbers running in the background and has to guess passwords to break "Pegasus, this guy is so egotistical"
Then when the CEO hires a hitman he uses TOR to navigate the deep web he uses super expensive equipment and talks to hitmen sitting in a dark room.

Besides, what dumbass hacker doesn't have a failsafe that releases the information if he dies?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
October 02 2013 18:50 GMT
#523
On October 03 2013 03:46 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 03:40 DrunkenOne wrote:
On October 03 2013 03:37 obesechicken13 wrote:
On October 03 2013 03:36 DrunkenOne wrote:
Whoa government killed silk road. The founder hired a hitman to kill some hacker who was trying to blackmail him by releasing user info. Court docs allege the site had $1.2 billion in transactions and 957k accounts. Lol drug prohibition. Pretty insane read if you aren't following this, just broke within the last 2 hours or so. Gonna make an amazing movie.

Interesting. But what does this have to do with lol?

performance enhancement drugs obviously :O

I bet in the movie the guy actually does use hacks and has matrix numbers running in the background and has to guess passwords to break "Pegasus, this guy is so egotistical"
Then when the CEO hires a hitman he uses TOR to navigate the deep web he uses super expensive equipment and talks to hitmen sitting in a dark room.

Besides, what dumbass hacker doesn't have a failsafe that releases the information if he dies?

I think the term you're looking for is "dead man's switch".
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
October 02 2013 18:51 GMT
#524
Of course I spend all my saved up IP to get Liss/Gragas, and two days later they have a 2-for-1 rune page sale......
Forever Young
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
October 02 2013 18:53 GMT
#525
On October 03 2013 03:51 sung_moon wrote:
Of course I spend all my saved up IP to get Liss/Gragas, and two days later they have a 2-for-1 rune page sale......

Them refunds, yo.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 18:53:58
October 02 2013 18:53 GMT
#526
On October 03 2013 03:46 Argoth. wrote:
Why is there such a huge ass queue on EUW again. I just wanna test the new patch


Think servers booted people or guys keep trying to relog. Typical EUW week. Issues on weekend, issues on weekdays , issues all the time.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 02 2013 18:55 GMT
#527
On October 03 2013 03:53 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 03:51 sung_moon wrote:
Of course I spend all my saved up IP to get Liss/Gragas, and two days later they have a 2-for-1 rune page sale......

Them refunds, yo.

As if I didn't use them all in the first month.
It's your boy Guzma!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
October 02 2013 20:08 GMT
#528
On October 03 2013 03:55 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 03:53 Gahlo wrote:
On October 03 2013 03:51 sung_moon wrote:
Of course I spend all my saved up IP to get Liss/Gragas, and two days later they have a 2-for-1 rune page sale......

Them refunds, yo.

As if I didn't use them all in the first month.

Nobody asked you, biatch. =]
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 02 2013 20:23 GMT
#529
Tuning into TRM's stream since he's using the Creator Viktor skin, to get a look at how it fares ingame.
J4 and Zac at his blue (blue side) while Kass+Ashe+Janna are near the crescent-shaped bush. J4 and Zac caught and with their ults out (Ashe's too) so at least J4 will die, giving them an advantageous fight.
He proceeds to drop his ult on J4 and Zac to try and get the kill. ._.

Yeah, people still have trouble with playing Viktor, uh.
And he talks about how people don't play Viktor because he requires good positioning—I mean, I agree he does, but that's not his biggest flaw as to why he doesn't attrack people, and saying that when you just tried to facetank an Ashe in the late game after wasting your ult is, well... He also maxed Q first vs Kassadin.


On another topic, how does Diana fare top, and what are the typical hard match-ups for her mid? With the current state of the game (and my own limitations when it comes to precise and fast clicking) I don't think I'll manage to make Talon or Cass work for me mid, nor Swain in general.
Diana on the other hand should switch things up from Orianna and Viktor. Bigger point being her ult cd so she isn't reliant on a long cd spell (contrary to Viktor), she's more aggressive/better at roaming, and I kinda expect her to be better at handling mobile/high damage trading mids like Zed.
On the other hand she isn't as good as them pre-6 so it should make me better at laning without relying on a champ pool strong at it like a crutch.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 02 2013 20:24 GMT
#530
I know diana mid can make a fizz cry which is more than enough to make me happy about people playing her mid.
Glorious SEA doto
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 02 2013 20:26 GMT
#531
On October 03 2013 05:23 Alaric wrote:
Tuning into TRM's stream since he's using the Creator Viktor skin, to get a look at how it fares ingame.
J4 and Zac at his blue (blue side) while Kass+Ashe+Janna are near the crescent-shaped bush. J4 and Zac caught and with their ults out (Ashe's too) so at least J4 will die, giving them an advantageous fight.
He proceeds to drop his ult on J4 and Zac to try and get the kill. ._.

Yeah, people still have trouble with playing Viktor, uh.
And he talks about how people don't play Viktor because he requires good positioning—I mean, I agree he does, but that's not his biggest flaw as to why he doesn't attrack people, and saying that when you just tried to facetank an Ashe in the late game after wasting your ult is, well... He also maxed Q first vs Kassadin.


On another topic, how does Diana fare top, and what are the typical hard match-ups for her mid? With the current state of the game (and my own limitations when it comes to precise and fast clicking) I don't think I'll manage to make Talon or Cass work for me mid, nor Swain in general.
Diana on the other hand should switch things up from Orianna and Viktor. Bigger point being her ult cd so she isn't reliant on a long cd spell (contrary to Viktor), she's more aggressive/better at roaming, and I kinda expect her to be better at handling mobile/high damage trading mids like Zed.
On the other hand she isn't as good as them pre-6 so it should make me better at laning without relying on a champ pool strong at it like a crutch.


People don't play Viktor because they're bad with Viktor. It is no shock to me that TRM is a dumbass.
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Mauzel
Profile Joined December 2009
United States421 Posts
October 02 2013 20:33 GMT
#532
Why would you not max Q vs kass? o.o

W and E max seem too short range to be effective vs > 6 kass.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 02 2013 20:35 GMT
#533
On October 03 2013 05:33 Mauzel wrote:
Why would you not max Q vs kass? o.o

W and E max seem too short range to be effective vs > 6 kass.

...?

E is easily longer range than Q if you're not terrible.
It's your boy Guzma!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 20:36:55
October 02 2013 20:35 GMT
#534
On October 03 2013 05:33 Mauzel wrote:
Why would you not max Q vs kass? o.o

W and E max seem too short range to be effective vs > 6 kass.


A few reasons.

You will be getting Death Augment. If you are maxing E, then your burst will skyrocket when you hit that 1kg. Also, once Kass hits 6, he can be very scary, so you'll want to either be able to poke him or grab cs with your laser if he's trying to zone you out. Also, if he roams, you want to punish him by shoving lane, which maxing Q will not help you do.

The shield isn't the important part of Q, and if you're going for best lane burst/use, E max is the way to go (really, it's the only way to go).

edit: Also, when you and Kass are both 5 (E rank 3 because fuck W until 8), your QE combo is going to just tool him and make him cry.
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Mauzel
Profile Joined December 2009
United States421 Posts
October 02 2013 20:39 GMT
#535
oh wat.

for some reason i mixed up E and Q lol.

I guess I could not conceive of a situation where you wouldn't want to max dah laserz... so I assumed that's what he was doing.

Actually I could see you maxing Q vs ryze because his short range means that every time you trade you would probably be able to preemptively Q him maybe + with Ryze's sustained damage you'll be able to use the shield even if you don't get to start the trade with it.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 20:42:21
October 02 2013 20:39 GMT
#536
E lets you one shot the wave unless Kass sits here in the middle of the lane and wants to dare you to move nearby.
If he roams, he loses his tower. If he stays in lane, you clear faster than him and can retreat afterwards to not have to trade with him.

I agree that Q may seem better for the harass at early levels, but that's already what you do if the jungler allows you to skip W (QEQEER and you go pretty aggro at levels 1, 3 and 5).
Kass will unload his burst before the shield comes back to you anyway post-6, so...

(And yeah I guess his decision-making is just super bad, he all-ins a Vlad as Vayne top at level 2, gets greedy and blows their flashes w/o any hope of getting a kill, then stays and dies at the standard level 3 gank timing since no wards and wasted flash. Vlad free farms, then roams because TRM's team is winning everywhere else and tries to take a drake, he still tries to farm instead of pushing the tower and despite almost 2 minutes alone doesn't take the tower.
He ends up losing his first after he tries to all-in Vlad with 2k in bank and doesn't get why he loses (not by much but still). ._.)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 02 2013 20:42 GMT
#537
On October 03 2013 05:39 Mauzel wrote:
oh wat.

for some reason i mixed up E and Q lol.

I guess I could not conceive of a situation where you wouldn't want to max dah laserz... so I assumed that's what he was doing.

Actually I could see you maxing Q vs ryze because his short range means that every time you trade you would probably be able to preemptively Q him maybe + with Ryze's sustained damage you'll be able to use the shield even if you don't get to start the trade with it.


Nope, you still max E against Ryze. You don't want to stand there in his range for long periods of time. If you try to trade with Q you will lose.

On October 03 2013 05:39 Alaric wrote:
E lets you one shot the wave unless Kass sits here in the middle of the lane and wants to dare you to move nearby.
If he roams, he loses his tower. If he stays in lane, you clear faster than him and can retreat afterwards to not have to trade with him.

I agree that Q may seem better for the harass at early levels, but that's already what you do if the jungler allows you to skip W (QEQEER and you go pretty aggro at levels 1, 3 and 5).
Kass will unload his burst before the shield comes back to you anyway post-6, so...

(And yeah I guess his decision-making is just super bad, he all-ins a Vlad as Vayne top at level 2, gets greedy and blows their flashes w/o any hope of getting a kill, then stays and dies at the standard level 3 gank timing since no wards and wasted flash. Vlad free farms, then roams because TRM's team is winning everywhere else and tries to take a drake, he still tries to farm instead of pushing the tower and despite almost 2 minutes alone doesn't take the tower and loses his first.
Then he tries to all-in Vlad with 2k in bank and doesn't get why he loses (not by much but still). ._.)


"If jungler lets you" Alaric pls, jungler gets no choice in the matter.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 02 2013 20:43 GMT
#538
You don't get camped (or even dove pre-6) often enough to appreciate having a way to move past your half of the lane without dying or to make them take 2 more tower shots then.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 20:48:28
October 02 2013 20:44 GMT
#539
On October 03 2013 05:43 Alaric wrote:
You don't get camped (or even dove pre-6) often enough to appreciate having a way to move past your half of the lane without dying or to make them take 2 more tower shots then.


Sure I do. Utilize MS quints while also being able to read jungler movements.

That said, having W at level 4 when the enemy has a maokai is hilarious. Bait the gank, flash into tower, drop W on yourself. Works at any level, but he dies super fast (obviously, this hasn't happened in a long time because the poor tree is nowhere to be seen).
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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
October 02 2013 20:47 GMT
#540
I'm gunna go ahead and add to my Must Ban List, simply because I don't trust people in solo que to be on my team with her and play marginally well.. This whole premise that people think they are just like Diamond makes me very upset. You are not good at this game, play the meta.

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