[Patch 3.12] (j/k) Jinx General Discussion - Page 239

Slayer91

Ireland23442 Posts

October 17 2013 17:06 GMT

#4761

i dont think push roam even then is an issue on account of the fact that you push towers fast enough that he cant stay anywhere too long and the only real threat is ganking mid so as long as you ping your mid laner (again the ward on top lane helps you know when he leaves lane to roam) it should be fine. Even pushed to tower unless he's an uber god pusher you can just freeze lane and he'll lose cs if he keeps doing it anyway

the biggest problem occurs when you both lose towers and you want to slowly push top and he camps bot or something and mid can just run and insta clear a huge wave and then go back to mid leaving you with no way to help bot and pushing being not too easy.
but early on id say its not a big deal (maybe slightly annoying for your mid but you can always kill their guy when he comes back from mid by intercepting him huehue.

BrownBear

United States6894 Posts

October 17 2013 17:13 GMT

#4762

You guys are making me wanna play nasus top again, I didn't realize he had gotten so stronk recently.

Being able to solo dragon at 6 with jungle nasus is just so enticing though...

Slayer91

Ireland23442 Posts

October 17 2013 17:15 GMT

#4763

he was always stronk

DonKey_

Liechtenstein1356 Posts

October 17 2013 17:24 GMT

#4764

On October 18 2013 02:03 Slayer91 wrote:

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im suggesting not taking exhaust, i find it largely superfluous with W.

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On October 18 2013 02:01 DonKey_ wrote:

On October 18 2013 01:57 Slayer91 wrote:

On October 18 2013 01:53 DonKey_ wrote:

On October 18 2013 01:42 Slayer91 wrote:

On October 18 2013 01:40 DonKey_ wrote:

On October 18 2013 01:12 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:

On October 18 2013 01:11 wei2coolman wrote:
Well considering how bonkers Nasus is right now, I think that's a pretty solid strategy.

On October 18 2013 01:10 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
what do you do if they just push you to tower and then go roam?

Shouldn't be straight maxing Q, in lane. Spirit Fire clears are pretty good, you can counter push against roamers if you pick up 2-3 points in spirit fire.

the crux of his strategy is to try to get a surprise kill with q max nasus since most ppl expect nasus to be passive (which he does, to trick them and then he all ins them with ghost exhaust and ult)

Ya this is my experience as well, when you hit six the opponent has you shoved to tower(not a problem between regen quint and your passive), and then you just jump on him with an entire lane to chase him with ult, ghost, wither, and exhaust.

6 is normally way too early, you want to have some time to farm Q, At level 9 your Q has short cd so it farms a lot faster and you had 8 levels to farm it, thats around when I'd go for the all in. Save you ult for ganks/2v2's.

Ult combined with exhaust is usually enough to secure a kill for you though, the q stacks are nice, but if they try and fight you through wither and exhaust they very rarely win, so I wouldn't say many stacks are needed by lvl 6.

thats a pretty big if
most champs have either some kind of escape or cc, and you're left with a bunch of wasted mana on W and R and exhaust is down

most people will harass and run or cc you the moment you use w

Ya I know this, that's why my conditions were for you to be at tower, because the majority of you match ups you will play against are flash tops. Even when you have a ghost top, your exhaust and wither provide enough cc time, through chaining to chase for a VERY long time. Yes it is mana intensive.

if he has any kind of a jump you will be hard pressed to do too much before he gets well out of range or into his tower. Level q we're talking q has what 6 second cd or something and only +50-100 dmg

I'm not arguing, always all in at 6, but it becomes a strong option available from 6, of course this assumes it's a soloqueue 1v1 match up as well.

Roffles

Pitcairn19291 Posts

October 17 2013 17:24 GMT

#4765

Big dog woof and run so fast.

Cast slow nevermove and you go boom. Self fire flame you die.

Big dog master rice farm.

thenexusp

United States3721 Posts

October 17 2013 17:27 GMT

#4766

On October 18 2013 02:24 Roffles wrote:
Big dog woof and run so fast.

Cast slow nevermove and you go boom. Self fire flame you die.

Big dog master rice farm.

Is this from the "brasil 5v5 tier list" or something

AsnSensation

Germany24009 Posts

October 17 2013 17:37 GMT

#4767

Nyph is streaming on, what seems to be a new streaming site in beta, the quality is insanely good.
http://www.hitbox.tv/nyph

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

October 17 2013 17:40 GMT

#4768

I still like Nasus jungle. Its the only Herbivore jungler that I find that interesting now, except maybe Hecarim (whos Q does such pathetic damage now).

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

October 17 2013 18:03 GMT

#4769

Hecarim was just so weird, incoming beating a dead horse joke, but Riot nerfed Lizard, then nerfed him, then nerfed him again when nobody gave a shit anymore.

he's still pretty strong if your team can survive a junlger hitting a 4 item timing to not be dog shit, but thats a pretty big if.

ComaDose

Canada10357 Posts

October 17 2013 18:06 GMT

#4770

On October 18 2013 03:03 Slusher wrote:
Hecarim was just so weird, incoming beating a dead horse joke, but Riot nerfed Lizard, then nerfed him, then nerfed him again when nobody gave a shit anymore.

he's still pretty strong if your team can survive a junlger hitting a 4 item timing to not be dog shit, but thats a pretty big if.

I still give a shit and play him TT i've just gotten better at hooking people into my team with ult/charge and building tankyer. But realistically i've been switching to vi jungle since the pwny got the bat.

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

October 17 2013 18:08 GMT

#4771

the 2nd nerf to w was just mind boggling. It's a crazy strong ability but you gotta give horse something to work with.

GhandiEAGLE

United States20754 Posts

October 17 2013 18:08 GMT

#4772

On October 18 2013 02:00 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:

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he said he had ghost and exh not sure where you're getting a third summoner

The clock is ticking, Cheep.

Honestly I still really enjoy Hecarim, but too often I feel a bit toothless since I jungle things like Vi Zac and Aatrox

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

October 17 2013 18:10 GMT

#4773

he's really fucking strong if you have any inner towers left when he hits level 18.

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not literal ofc

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

October 17 2013 18:22 GMT

#4774

On October 18 2013 03:08 GhandiEAGLE wrote:

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The clock is ticking, Cheep.

Honestly I still really enjoy Hecarim, but too often I feel a bit toothless since I jungle things like Vi Zac and Aatrox

I really enjoy Hecarim as well. I just never can get ganks to work properly unless the other laner is an idiot. And honestly, his 2v2 isn't that great early either.

gtrsrs

United States9109 Posts

October 17 2013 18:23 GMT

#4775

controversial opinion inc:
hecarim was never even that strong, even when SotLE was at the peak of power

Slayer91

Ireland23442 Posts

October 17 2013 18:24 GMT

#4776

weren't you the person the said hecarim was like super op

also how is in controversional
hecarim was never that popular on europe and havent seen him in months

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

October 17 2013 18:28 GMT

#4777

On October 18 2013 03:23 gtrsrs wrote:
controversial opinion inc:
hecarim was never even that strong, even when SotLE was at the peak of power

Says the guy whos team plays Singed and Ezreal jungle. /banhammer

But really I am a terrible jungler and just play what I find fun: Pony, Dog, Mummy, and the Devil.

zer0das

United States8519 Posts

October 17 2013 18:33 GMT

#4778

We know, you hate Hecarim. There's an entire thread dedicated to that.

gtrsrs

United States9109 Posts

October 17 2013 18:35 GMT

#4779

i just think skarner does everything that hecarim does except ignite a flame of passion in bronies

Ethelis

United States2400 Posts

October 17 2013 18:55 GMT

#4780

Im scared to pick the dog top, i witnessed Lucian top vs dog...it was absolutely ugly. Dash cleansing wither 2 strong.

On October 17 2013 13:40 UniversalSnip wrote:

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I don't follow. Why does somebody at silver V have to have spent much time at silver III? In fact kinae, who started this whole discussion, is basically bronze II or I elo. And what do you mean by "recently" getting silver V and then going inactive "for some time"? I'm having a hard time seeing what you're trying to say.

As in hit the next division (in this case Silver V) and then take a break from LoL for 1-2 weeks or whatever. I can see it being awful then.

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