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On October 18 2013 01:12 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 01:11 wei2coolman wrote:Well considering how bonkers Nasus is right now, I think that's a pretty solid strategy. On October 18 2013 01:10 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
what do you do if they just push you to tower and then go roam? Shouldn't be straight maxing Q, in lane. Spirit Fire clears are pretty good, you can counter push against roamers if you pick up 2-3 points in spirit fire. the crux of his strategy is to try to get a surprise kill with q max nasus since most ppl expect nasus to be passive (which he does, to trick them and then he all ins them with ghost exhaust and ult)
Ya this is my experience as well, when you hit six the opponent has you shoved to tower(not a problem between regen quint and your passive), and then you just jump on him with an entire lane to chase him with ult, ghost, wither, and exhaust.
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On October 18 2013 01:40 DonKey_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 01:12 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:On October 18 2013 01:11 wei2coolman wrote:Well considering how bonkers Nasus is right now, I think that's a pretty solid strategy. On October 18 2013 01:10 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
what do you do if they just push you to tower and then go roam? Shouldn't be straight maxing Q, in lane. Spirit Fire clears are pretty good, you can counter push against roamers if you pick up 2-3 points in spirit fire. the crux of his strategy is to try to get a surprise kill with q max nasus since most ppl expect nasus to be passive (which he does, to trick them and then he all ins them with ghost exhaust and ult) Ya this is my experience as well, when you hit six the opponent has you shoved to tower(not a problem between regen quint and your passive), and then you just jump on him with an entire lane to chase him with ult, ghost, wither, and exhaust.
6 is normally way too early, you want to have some time to farm Q, At level 9 your Q has short cd so it farms a lot faster and you had 8 levels to farm it, thats around when I'd go for the all in. Save you ult for ganks/2v2's.
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On October 18 2013 01:38 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
We're all just expelling all of our subconscious guilt at completely shitting on Mathies when he first came
lol
He's 2 posts in and isn't a raging egomaniac, he's a solid peg above Mathies.
Nasus maxing Spirit Fire is not really great if you're wanting to get 6 Q stacks per wave, it's a different playstyle to max Q first. I like it the most because I used to run it back in S1, but I haven't even played Nasus since then so what do I know.
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On October 18 2013 01:38 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
We're all just expelling all of our subconscious guilt at completely shitting on Mathies when he first came
lol
Nah, this guy didn't come in saying he goes nasus top with another top laner if he has to.
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On October 18 2013 01:43 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 01:38 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
We're all just expelling all of our subconscious guilt at completely shitting on Mathies when he first came
lol Nah, this guy didn't come in saying he goes nasus top with another top laner if he has to.
Duo mid is the future.
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On October 18 2013 01:11 wei2coolman wrote:Well considering how bonkers Nasus is right now, I think that's a pretty solid strategy. Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 01:10 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
what do you do if they just push you to tower and then go roam? Shouldn't be straight maxing Q, in lane. Spirit Fire clears are pretty good, you can counter push against roamers if you pick up 2-3 points in spirit fire.
everyone should be maxing q on nasus nearly all the time
roaming is so laughable especially if you have tp. Pushing against your tower really isn't a problem
where are all you guys talking bout clearly nobodys read the nasus thread i heard the guy who made it knows his shit
i tend to max E last because nobody ever stands in it (because who can stand and fight against nasus lol)
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On October 18 2013 01:45 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 01:11 wei2coolman wrote:Well considering how bonkers Nasus is right now, I think that's a pretty solid strategy. On October 18 2013 01:10 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
what do you do if they just push you to tower and then go roam? Shouldn't be straight maxing Q, in lane. Spirit Fire clears are pretty good, you can counter push against roamers if you pick up 2-3 points in spirit fire. everyone should be maxing q on nasus nearly all the time roaming is so laughable especially if you have tp. Pushing against your tower really isn't a problem where are all you guys talking bout clearly nobodys read the nasus thread i heard the guy who made it knows his shit i tend to max E last because nobody ever stands in it (because who can stand and fight against nasus lol)
The Koreans really like E max, or multiple points into E early on. Much stronger map control with it.
Solo queue, Q max is probably more optimal though.
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On October 18 2013 01:49 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 01:45 Slayer91 wrote:On October 18 2013 01:11 wei2coolman wrote:Well considering how bonkers Nasus is right now, I think that's a pretty solid strategy. On October 18 2013 01:10 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
what do you do if they just push you to tower and then go roam? Shouldn't be straight maxing Q, in lane. Spirit Fire clears are pretty good, you can counter push against roamers if you pick up 2-3 points in spirit fire. everyone should be maxing q on nasus nearly all the time roaming is so laughable especially if you have tp. Pushing against your tower really isn't a problem where are all you guys talking bout clearly nobodys read the nasus thread i heard the guy who made it knows his shit i tend to max E last because nobody ever stands in it (because who can stand and fight against nasus lol) The Koreans really like E max, or multiple points into E early on. Much stronger map control with it. Solo queue, Q max is probably more optimal though.
They also 1v2.Which is kinda different.E is worst ability in 1v1 easily.Even w max would be stronger.
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i havent seen any korean nasus games yet
maxing q is slightly more dangerous against guys who might tower dive you a lot, or if jungle invades are an issue, but nearly all the time is isnt (at least in solo q)
unless its 1v2
then you can't exactly max Q you'll miss most of your cs because of harass
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Woah! I think there was some mid communication there. I would never be troll and go two top unless its a normal with my friends. What I meant to say was that I am not a one trick pony, and can go other lanes with other champions if I have to, but if I get top, which I usually do since for some reason I am fp a lot, I will be Nasus. If someone ahead of me goes top, then I can jungle a lot of champs, and mid with a few solid ones. I am just not good at bot lane in general so i try to stay clear of it in ranked games :D
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On October 18 2013 01:42 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 01:40 DonKey_ wrote:On October 18 2013 01:12 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:On October 18 2013 01:11 wei2coolman wrote:Well considering how bonkers Nasus is right now, I think that's a pretty solid strategy. On October 18 2013 01:10 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
what do you do if they just push you to tower and then go roam? Shouldn't be straight maxing Q, in lane. Spirit Fire clears are pretty good, you can counter push against roamers if you pick up 2-3 points in spirit fire. the crux of his strategy is to try to get a surprise kill with q max nasus since most ppl expect nasus to be passive (which he does, to trick them and then he all ins them with ghost exhaust and ult) Ya this is my experience as well, when you hit six the opponent has you shoved to tower(not a problem between regen quint and your passive), and then you just jump on him with an entire lane to chase him with ult, ghost, wither, and exhaust. 6 is normally way too early, you want to have some time to farm Q, At level 9 your Q has short cd so it farms a lot faster and you had 8 levels to farm it, thats around when I'd go for the all in. Save you ult for ganks/2v2's.
Ult combined with exhaust is usually enough to secure a kill for you though, the q stacks are nice, but if they try and fight you through wither and exhaust they very rarely win, so I wouldn't say many stacks are needed by lvl 6.
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yea E max is mostly due to the strategy of the draft when Koreans draft Nasus, there were a handful of games when the cheaper version of the new SV first came out and I think Homme played him 1v1 a couple of times, I'd be interested to see what he maxed I'd be suprised if it was spirit fire.
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On October 18 2013 01:38 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
We're all just expelling all of our subconscious guilt at completely shitting on Mathies when he first came
lol
To be fair, the new guy didn't go
"Hi guys, i used to play dota2 so I know what i'm doing. I play only nasus top, and if someone else goes top I just go duo top. I always win my lane but I keep getting terrible teams so I always lose. What do I do? Also I plan on getting diamond by the end of the month"
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On October 18 2013 01:52 Rooster Cogburn wrote:
Woah! I think there was some mid communication there. I would never be troll and go two top unless its a normal with my friends. What I meant to say was that I am not a one trick pony, and can go other lanes with other champions if I have to, but if I get top, which I usually do since for some reason I am fp a lot, I will be Nasus. If someone ahead of me goes top, then I can jungle a lot of champs, and mid with a few solid ones. I am just not good at bot lane in general so i try to stay clear of it in ranked games :D
No,we weren't saying that.
there was some dude that came on our forum a while back that stirred a huge shitstorm.
He thought he was some hotshit at SC2, and DotA and therefore demanded some respect as a LoL player. Turned out he was just a giant dbag who would only play syndra mid, and would duo mid if someone else chose mid as well. etc. etc.
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On October 18 2013 01:53 DonKey_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 01:42 Slayer91 wrote:On October 18 2013 01:40 DonKey_ wrote:On October 18 2013 01:12 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:On October 18 2013 01:11 wei2coolman wrote:Well considering how bonkers Nasus is right now, I think that's a pretty solid strategy. On October 18 2013 01:10 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
what do you do if they just push you to tower and then go roam? Shouldn't be straight maxing Q, in lane. Spirit Fire clears are pretty good, you can counter push against roamers if you pick up 2-3 points in spirit fire. the crux of his strategy is to try to get a surprise kill with q max nasus since most ppl expect nasus to be passive (which he does, to trick them and then he all ins them with ghost exhaust and ult) Ya this is my experience as well, when you hit six the opponent has you shoved to tower(not a problem between regen quint and your passive), and then you just jump on him with an entire lane to chase him with ult, ghost, wither, and exhaust. 6 is normally way too early, you want to have some time to farm Q, At level 9 your Q has short cd so it farms a lot faster and you had 8 levels to farm it, thats around when I'd go for the all in. Save you ult for ganks/2v2's. Ult combined with exhaust is usually enough to secure a kill for you though, the q stacks are nice, but if they try and fight you through wither and exhaust they very rarely win, so I wouldn't say many stacks are needed by lvl 6.
thats a pretty big if
most champs have either some kind of escape or cc, and you're left with a bunch of wasted mana on W and R and exhaust is down
most people will harass and run or cc you the moment you use w
you problem with mathies was that he wasn't very good and he believed he was, playing only syndra mid is fine in my book
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On October 18 2013 01:45 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 01:11 wei2coolman wrote:Well considering how bonkers Nasus is right now, I think that's a pretty solid strategy. On October 18 2013 01:10 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
what do you do if they just push you to tower and then go roam? Shouldn't be straight maxing Q, in lane. Spirit Fire clears are pretty good, you can counter push against roamers if you pick up 2-3 points in spirit fire. everyone should be maxing q on nasus nearly all the time roaming is so laughable especially if you have tp. Pushing against your tower really isn't a problem where are all you guys talking bout clearly nobodys read the nasus thread i heard the guy who made it knows his shit i tend to max E last because nobody ever stands in it (because who can stand and fight against nasus lol)
he said he had ghost and exh not sure where you're getting a third summoner
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Syndra is so good though.Both bjergesen and faker played mostly her before they got famous so that should be worth something.Also she is really good when smurfing :D.
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On October 18 2013 01:57 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 01:53 DonKey_ wrote:On October 18 2013 01:42 Slayer91 wrote:On October 18 2013 01:40 DonKey_ wrote:On October 18 2013 01:12 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:On October 18 2013 01:11 wei2coolman wrote:Well considering how bonkers Nasus is right now, I think that's a pretty solid strategy. On October 18 2013 01:10 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
what do you do if they just push you to tower and then go roam? Shouldn't be straight maxing Q, in lane. Spirit Fire clears are pretty good, you can counter push against roamers if you pick up 2-3 points in spirit fire. the crux of his strategy is to try to get a surprise kill with q max nasus since most ppl expect nasus to be passive (which he does, to trick them and then he all ins them with ghost exhaust and ult) Ya this is my experience as well, when you hit six the opponent has you shoved to tower(not a problem between regen quint and your passive), and then you just jump on him with an entire lane to chase him with ult, ghost, wither, and exhaust. 6 is normally way too early, you want to have some time to farm Q, At level 9 your Q has short cd so it farms a lot faster and you had 8 levels to farm it, thats around when I'd go for the all in. Save you ult for ganks/2v2's. Ult combined with exhaust is usually enough to secure a kill for you though, the q stacks are nice, but if they try and fight you through wither and exhaust they very rarely win, so I wouldn't say many stacks are needed by lvl 6. thats a pretty big if most champs have either some kind of escape or cc, and you're left with a bunch of wasted mana on W and R and exhaust is down most people will harass and run or cc you the moment you use w
Ya I know this, that's why my conditions were for you to be at tower, because the majority of you match ups you will play against are flash tops. Even when you have a ghost top, your exhaust and wither provide enough cc time, through chaining to chase for a VERY long time. Yes it is mana intensive.
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On October 18 2013 02:00 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 01:45 Slayer91 wrote:On October 18 2013 01:11 wei2coolman wrote:Well considering how bonkers Nasus is right now, I think that's a pretty solid strategy. On October 18 2013 01:10 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
what do you do if they just push you to tower and then go roam? Shouldn't be straight maxing Q, in lane. Spirit Fire clears are pretty good, you can counter push against roamers if you pick up 2-3 points in spirit fire. everyone should be maxing q on nasus nearly all the time roaming is so laughable especially if you have tp. Pushing against your tower really isn't a problem where are all you guys talking bout clearly nobodys read the nasus thread i heard the guy who made it knows his shit i tend to max E last because nobody ever stands in it (because who can stand and fight against nasus lol) he said he had ghost and exh not sure where you're getting a third summoner
im suggesting not taking exhaust, i find it largely superfluous with W.
On October 18 2013 02:01 DonKey_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 01:57 Slayer91 wrote:On October 18 2013 01:53 DonKey_ wrote:On October 18 2013 01:42 Slayer91 wrote:On October 18 2013 01:40 DonKey_ wrote:On October 18 2013 01:12 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:On October 18 2013 01:11 wei2coolman wrote:Well considering how bonkers Nasus is right now, I think that's a pretty solid strategy. On October 18 2013 01:10 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
what do you do if they just push you to tower and then go roam? Shouldn't be straight maxing Q, in lane. Spirit Fire clears are pretty good, you can counter push against roamers if you pick up 2-3 points in spirit fire. the crux of his strategy is to try to get a surprise kill with q max nasus since most ppl expect nasus to be passive (which he does, to trick them and then he all ins them with ghost exhaust and ult) Ya this is my experience as well, when you hit six the opponent has you shoved to tower(not a problem between regen quint and your passive), and then you just jump on him with an entire lane to chase him with ult, ghost, wither, and exhaust. 6 is normally way too early, you want to have some time to farm Q, At level 9 your Q has short cd so it farms a lot faster and you had 8 levels to farm it, thats around when I'd go for the all in. Save you ult for ganks/2v2's. Ult combined with exhaust is usually enough to secure a kill for you though, the q stacks are nice, but if they try and fight you through wither and exhaust they very rarely win, so I wouldn't say many stacks are needed by lvl 6. thats a pretty big if most champs have either some kind of escape or cc, and you're left with a bunch of wasted mana on W and R and exhaust is down most people will harass and run or cc you the moment you use w Ya I know this, that's why my conditions were for you to be at tower, because the majority of you match ups you will play against are flash tops. Even when you have a ghost top, your exhaust and wither provide enough cc time, through chaining to chase for a VERY long time. Yes it is mana intensive.
if he has any kind of a jump you will be hard pressed to do too much before he gets well out of range or into his tower. Level q we're talking q has what 6 second cd or something and only +50-100 dmg
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well yes and my response was in response to what he originally proposed not to how you play nasus
and how he plays nasus definitely would have a problem with push roam
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