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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 16 2013 20:22 GMT
#4561
On October 17 2013 05:11 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 05:08 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 17 2013 05:05 canikizu wrote:
Question: If there were an item in LoL that:
+ Doesn't give any stats.
+ Can be activated, duration maybe 10 sec, cd maybe 40-60 sec?
+ When it's activating, your bonus AP/AD becomes 0, but your CDR become 70-90%

Is it worth buying? especially for support?

Soraka would be beyond broken hehehehe.
It also depends on cost, if it costs 3k gold, no support is going to buy it.
if 1k-1.5k, possibly.

1k-1.5k is too cheap though. The idea is the item is expensive but good enough so that team has to think about allocating some farm for a support just to reach that item.



That basically can't happen until the vision problem is fixed. The upper limit on how much a support can invest into vision and vision control is really, really high, and you have to really go crazy on vision to run into any sort of diminishing returns.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 16 2013 20:23 GMT
#4562
On October 17 2013 05:22 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 05:16 Nos- wrote:
How do you suggest this item without thinking about how abusive it is on someone who can actually get items or farm?


Ya that item would be ridiculous as fuck on pretty much every top laner in the game, and most jungles.

Aatrox faceplanting all over the map.
It's your boy Guzma!
Zizoz
Profile Joined June 2012
United States232 Posts
October 16 2013 20:25 GMT
#4563
Also, 12-second Fiddle fears.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
October 16 2013 20:27 GMT
#4564
Or Gragas pushing you off a tower for days, anivia walling you off a tower for days, Ashe shooting like 8 arrows. You can't just think about an item in such a confined vacuum.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 16 2013 20:28 GMT
#4565
On October 17 2013 05:27 Nos- wrote:
Or Gragas pushing you off a tower for days, anivia walling you off a tower for days, Ashe shooting like 8 arrows. You can't just think about an item in such a confined vacuum.

Forgot about the ashe one. That'd be pretty awesome. Support ashe would be op'd.
liftlift > tsm
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
October 16 2013 20:28 GMT
#4566
So I rolled Shen in aram (free week) and have never played him before. I tried to taunt-flash but failed miserably. Flash just cut my taunt short. I went into a custom game and tried to do it but to no avail. Am I doing something wrong? I taunt then hit flash somewhere between 25-50% of the taunt distance. Everytime I just stop in place after I flash.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
October 16 2013 20:31 GMT
#4567
On October 17 2013 05:28 beefhamburger wrote:
So I rolled Shen in aram (free week) and have never played him before. I tried to taunt-flash but failed miserably. Flash just cut my taunt short. I went into a custom game and tried to do it but to no avail. Am I doing something wrong? I taunt then hit flash somewhere between 25-50% of the taunt distance. Everytime I just stop in place after I flash.

When you finish the taunt there's a finishing "recovery" animation. Don't Flash too early and it should be ok I think.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 16 2013 20:32 GMT
#4568
On Harrowing skins:

There will just be those two new skins released at the start of Harrowing this year, and both skins will be permanent additions to the store, not legacy skins. The current plan is to release new legacy skins for Lunar Revel this year instead of Harrowing for two reasons: 1) Harrowing has a lot of legacy content while Lunar Revel has none. 2) Vi and Zyra should have more accessible skins in the store as they only have 1 today.


Nice that they both finally get a new permanent skin. Really want to see what the Lunar ones are though.
It's your boy Guzma!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 16 2013 20:40 GMT
#4569
Zyra is probably going to get an SKT skin as well so it's a good time for zyra players lol.
Glorious SEA doto
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 16 2013 20:40 GMT
#4570
On October 17 2013 05:28 beefhamburger wrote:
So I rolled Shen in aram (free week) and have never played him before. I tried to taunt-flash but failed miserably. Flash just cut my taunt short. I went into a custom game and tried to do it but to no avail. Am I doing something wrong? I taunt then hit flash somewhere between 25-50% of the taunt distance. Everytime I just stop in place after I flash.


What is your ping?
Freeeeeeedom
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
October 16 2013 20:41 GMT
#4571
On October 17 2013 04:19 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 04:16 Requizen wrote:
On October 17 2013 04:11 kongoline wrote:
i wonder how long till khazix becomes fotm again

Around the same time as Jayce imo. Both of them fell out of favor around the same time via various nerfs but are both still viable in the right hands.


Probably the truest answer is, "whenever some pro, or group of pros uses him with lots of success."

Like ahri and Fizz didn't really get any buffs, its just pros latched onto them and there for the masses did. I would also say, Generally the heros that people with lower skill can have success with, since everyone wants to win but not everyone can land skill shot combos and so on.


Ryze being nerfed was probably part of it.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 16 2013 20:54 GMT
#4572
On October 17 2013 05:41 Cheap0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 04:19 JimmiC wrote:
On October 17 2013 04:16 Requizen wrote:
On October 17 2013 04:11 kongoline wrote:
i wonder how long till khazix becomes fotm again

Around the same time as Jayce imo. Both of them fell out of favor around the same time via various nerfs but are both still viable in the right hands.


Probably the truest answer is, "whenever some pro, or group of pros uses him with lots of success."

Like ahri and Fizz didn't really get any buffs, its just pros latched onto them and there for the masses did. I would also say, Generally the heros that people with lower skill can have success with, since everyone wants to win but not everyone can land skill shot combos and so on.


Ryze being nerfed was probably part of it.

When will riot learn not to mess with the ecosystem
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
October 16 2013 21:02 GMT
#4573
On October 17 2013 05:40 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 05:28 beefhamburger wrote:
So I rolled Shen in aram (free week) and have never played him before. I tried to taunt-flash but failed miserably. Flash just cut my taunt short. I went into a custom game and tried to do it but to no avail. Am I doing something wrong? I taunt then hit flash somewhere between 25-50% of the taunt distance. Everytime I just stop in place after I flash.


What is your ping?

~80, I'm trying it at different times of the taunt but don't think I'm having any success.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 16 2013 21:06 GMT
#4574
On October 17 2013 06:02 beefhamburger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 05:40 cLutZ wrote:
On October 17 2013 05:28 beefhamburger wrote:
So I rolled Shen in aram (free week) and have never played him before. I tried to taunt-flash but failed miserably. Flash just cut my taunt short. I went into a custom game and tried to do it but to no avail. Am I doing something wrong? I taunt then hit flash somewhere between 25-50% of the taunt distance. Everytime I just stop in place after I flash.


What is your ping?

~80, I'm trying it at different times of the taunt but don't think I'm having any success.


Mine is the same, and it works sometimes for me. Flash-taunt is probably better for mere mortals.
Freeeeeeedom
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
October 16 2013 21:15 GMT
#4575
Okay while skimming over all the talk about support stuff I have decided to toss out two silly ideas related to supporty item attributes.

1) Make gp10 work a bit like Draven's passive:
When you haven't last hit anything in a while, it charges up stacks. When you last hit a minion you get the stacks as gold. The rate of stacking could accelerate the longer you go between last hits. It could have some special interaction with champion kills/assists. The thought of kills/assists lead me to idea number two, which is much sillier.

2) An item that grants the wearer the ability to swap their kill gold for the assist gold. That is to say, if you get a kill while you have this item, the game gives you the assist gold pool, and the assisters get the kill pool. Could potentionally be a double-edged sword if you're getting assistless kills.
3.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
October 16 2013 21:23 GMT
#4576
EUW just pooped itself I think, anyone else getting in? I got an unknown error along with my teammates in champ select, rebooted the client and now I'm not connecting anymore.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Anggroth
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom345 Posts
October 16 2013 21:30 GMT
#4577
On October 17 2013 06:23 Doctorbeat wrote:
EUW just pooped itself I think, anyone else getting in? I got an unknown error along with my teammates in champ select, rebooted the client and now I'm not connecting anymore.


Apparently there's an issue with game starts, so they've disabled the ranked queue and fucked the servers (it's not logging off properly for me).
No practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences. Indeed it is the freedom on which all others are based.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 16 2013 22:23 GMT
#4578
im so glad i stopped playing before the servers pooped themselves, if i had lost a game to this crap i would be so rustled.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 22:46:58
October 16 2013 22:46 GMT
#4579
On October 17 2013 05:27 Nos- wrote:
Or Gragas pushing you off a tower for days, anivia walling you off a tower for days, Ashe shooting like 8 arrows. You can't just think about an item in such a confined vacuum.

The activate time only 10 sec or so, so if it's 80% CDR but only for 10sec(or maybe 5-7sec, just throw a number) , you are not actually able to shoot more than 2 ultimate in the course of 20sec or so.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 16 2013 22:48 GMT
#4580
lmao that death mark change ahahghugaueuhugehuahaha
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
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