EPT[Patch 3.12] (j/k) Jinx General Discussion - Page 221
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kongoline
6318 Posts
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
Fizz Seastone Trident ( W ) active AP ratio reduced to ( .15 AP ) from ( .35 AP ) Thoughts? | ||
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
On October 16 2013 21:17 MattBarry wrote: After watching Xpecial's grilled interview, I have to wonder why they keep Oddone on the team. His mechanics aren't very good, and apparently his game sense and decision making are absolutely terrible according Xpecial. What redeeming factor does he have Xspecial really likes to put the blame on others. Along with dyrus he was their worst player at worlds. Hoping CLG make no roster changes, but something tells me they will  . | ||
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
Surprised they didn't go harder on Fizz (Unless there are more nerfs). I honestly think his Q shouldn't be on hit, he can literally miss his ult and still nearly 1 shot a squishy late game. | ||
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Vegetarian Wolf
China434 Posts
a good first step towards deleting the hero pls remove fizz from the game | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
Takes out some of the pain from running into him in the brush, but doesn't really affect his ability to burst down carries whenever he damn well feels like it. He needs some counterplay to Q in/hit once with W/E out, and this isn't providing that. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On October 16 2013 23:48 Zdrastochye wrote: Yeah, it fixes nothing that was wrong with him. Hitting his late game scaling? Oh no, what shall I do on Fizz at 50 minutes? Oh wait that's 20 minutes longer than it took them to surrender. Wait what? If you're Fizz with a scary early game Fizz build and starting with 50ish AP, this is 10 less damage per auto on your level 2 all in, which means it's more than 10 less damage because you'll have less missing health and take less missing health damage. Also 10 less damage on the initial Urchin Strike. That's kind of a big deal, even early game. | ||
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Vegetarian Wolf
China434 Posts
On October 16 2013 23:58 Ketara wrote: Wait what? If you're Fizz with a scary early game Fizz build and starting with 50ish AP, this is 10 less damage per auto on your level 2 all in, which means it's more than 10 less damage because you'll have less missing health and take less missing health damage. Also 10 less damage on the initial Urchin Strike. That's kind of a big deal, even early game. ketara once again showering us with his insight into heroes he doesn't play you're like one of those idiots who look at a hero and think it's completely focused on a single aspect (in this case a level 2 all in) when theres so much more to it this change changes absolutely nothing in how batshit op fizz is | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
The AP ratio on the passive isn't what's scary though, it's the missing health damage coupled with all the burst. And cheep, I really don't appreciate being insulted for no reason. Don't be a dick. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On October 17 2013 00:29 AsnSensation wrote: "super team" doesn't even bother to hide it anymore :D Shook & TCM jwawow moved to main accounts. Just like how in sc2 your "hotkey signature" can give away who you really are, there's more than enough information for people to link pro smurfs in lol to their main accounts. Also "super team mid must be froggen because no one else builds guise+hextech on anivia" | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On October 17 2013 00:37 thenexusp wrote: Just like how in sc2 your "hotkey signature" can give away who you really are, there's more than enough information for people to link pro smurfs in lol to their main accounts. Also "super team mid must be froggen because no one else builds guise+hextech on anivia" yeah, actually I expected Freeze, Edward, Froggen and Shook to be found pretty quickly but what was most impressive to me personally is that reddit identified the TCM guy within the first hour lol. also Evil Geniuses @EvilGeniuses 25m In twenty minutes, we will announce something for our @LeagueOfLegends fans. Something you've all been waiting for. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On October 16 2013 22:22 JimmiC wrote: Spending money on something you enjoy you are crazy! I think my best purchase was extra rune pages. It kinda of is counter productive in the sense that now you need more ip for more runes. But if you have the runes it sure give you increased flexibility The way to calculate these things is basically the ratio of the IP it costs (that is, your time) vs the RP it costs. You want to get a ton of IP for your RP so that you can use your earned IP for everything else. Keep in mind that IP is liquid so if you spend RP for a rune page or champ it means you have more IP for runes and everything else you want (provided that buying stuff doesn't make you want more stuff, huehue). In effect this means:
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On October 17 2013 00:39 AsnSensation wrote: yeah, actually I expected Freeze, Edward, Froggen and Shook to be found pretty quickly but what was most impressive to me personally is that reddit identified the TCM guy within the first hour lol. also Evil Geniuses @EvilGeniuses 25m In twenty minutes, we will announce something for our @LeagueOfLegends fans. Something you've all been waiting for. Did you see what it was? | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On October 17 2013 00:40 phyvo wrote: The way to calculate these things is basically the ratio of the IP it costs (that is, your time) vs the RP it costs. You want to get a ton of IP for your RP so that you can use your earned IP for everything else. Keep in mind that IP is liquid so if you spend RP for a rune page or champ it means you have more IP for runes and everything else you want (provided that buying stuff doesn't make you want more stuff, huehue). In effect this means:
Aren't skins the best RP purchases? Since being unbuyable with IP == having an infinite IP cost, it has the absolute best IP/RP ratio possible. And even if you only ever want to buy things that could give you some kind of in-game advantage, some skins do do that ... :D | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 17 2013 00:14 Vegetarian Wolf wrote: ketara once again showering us with his insight into heroes he doesn't play you're like one of those idiots who look at a hero and think it's completely focused on a single aspect (in this case a level 2 all in) when theres so much more to it this change changes absolutely nothing in how batshit op fizz is It nerfs toplane ap fizz quite a bit, since in top lane you can get away with w maxing early. But it doesn't address the fact you only need 2 items on fizz to be relevant all the way to the 50 minute mark. | ||
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Kyrie
1594 Posts
the level 2 allin also isn't a particularly successful timing against opponents that are 1) not kassadin and 2) familiar with the matchup the net decrease in damage will be, at most, in the neighborhood of 100 damage per activation before lich, after which it becomes largely irrelevant. this could impact fizz appreciably in repeated exchanges, but that clearly isn't why he is picked | ||
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