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Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
October 16 2013 16:20 GMT
#4441
assertion: fizz will be irrelevant in two months and the big discussion of the day will be how to nerf poke

riskier assertion: nidalee rework around the same time as comprehensive poke meta nerfs

riskiest assertion: online poker will be legal again in the us outside of vegas within two years
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 16:21:13
October 16 2013 16:20 GMT
#4442
In Vegewolfs defence i agree Ketara talks a whole damn lot with what seems like wiki info about things he doesnt really know about.

However i dont know that for fact or know better myself so i keep quiet.

Also, no need to be such a huge dick about it

edit: Had to be on a new page t.t
Useless wet fish.
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
October 16 2013 16:22 GMT
#4443
lmao it's not like it's a super secret hidden smurf or anything too
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 16 2013 16:24 GMT
#4444
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 16 2013 16:25 GMT
#4445
Stop trying jimmic.
liftlift > tsm
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
October 16 2013 16:29 GMT
#4446
wtf, what's the point of being informative if you're not going to trash some1?
give and take bro, he gives the info but gets to throw feces at some1 in return.
the true church of roffles
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 16 2013 16:29 GMT
#4447
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SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
October 16 2013 16:34 GMT
#4448
Not really, let's say you have this item but you get dove under tower and your ad dies for it. huge wave is pushing, you're supposed to just leave and let everything die to the tower? that's horrible
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
October 16 2013 16:35 GMT
#4449
Does anyone know what the schedule is for the NA and EU LCS's in terms of new qualifiers, and the actual start? I must suck at wiki but I can't really find it =/
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
October 16 2013 16:38 GMT
#4450
On October 17 2013 01:29 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 01:19 LaNague wrote:
On October 17 2013 00:54 ShoreT wrote:
I know there has been some talk about the need for support centric items. Would making cheap items, with very good stats, but that decay with minion kills (like a reverse BT) help. Say it takes 60 CS to the items to decay completely / to a very inefficient level. The first 15 CS could decay 10% of the items stats / actives, the next 15 CS an additional 20% and so on until 60CS completely decay the item to the final stat levels.

The real benefit to these items is they give supports something worthwhile to buy, while making it hard for non-supports to capitalize (they would have a very small power spike that would go away if they got more minion kills)


this is a bad idea because

a) it reverses the main mechanic of this game: Lasthitting minions. Now its suddenly bad to do it.

b) It creates artificial complicated rules. You only want to create as many rules as needed. And you dont want to create very spcific rules for very specific situations just to balance something.



You are probably right, what I really like about the idea is just that it came at the problem, in a completly new direction. Maybe it will spur something that does work with the game.

I would say, however, that your point a) is true of 4 of the 5 roles. Most of the time when a support has a high creep score, it is a bad thing.

If your support has cs then maybe your team was doing something wrong but it's still preferable to letting the cs get eaten by a tower. You can't be in the optimal winning position in every game, otherwise you'd just buy mejai's/soto every game ("If you have more deaths than kills, that's a bad thing")
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 16 2013 16:40 GMT
#4451
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 16 2013 16:43 GMT
#4452
It's really not worth all this debate.

Csheep was being an asshole for no reason, I asked him to stop, he did more or less. Everybody knows he hates Fizz and enjoys talking about how OP Fizz is, he's not actually arguing from any sort of logical basis so trying to actually discuss it with him isn't very relevant.

Should move on.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 16:45:56
October 16 2013 16:45 GMT
#4453
being an asshole doesn't diminish your argument, however it makes people angry which can derail argument and you'll get less useful discussion
being an asshole does make posting more satisfying however, and posting may or may not be more entertaining for others to read
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 16:58:29
October 16 2013 16:49 GMT
#4454
I actually I apologize.
The item that decrease in cost efficiency with creeps still sound like a bad idea to me because it only removes option, doesn't create any.
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 16 2013 16:50 GMT
#4455
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thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
October 16 2013 16:58 GMT
#4456
I've seen the "reverse BT" idea brought up several times in the past on various lol forums, fwiw, so it's not a terribly new idea for me
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 16 2013 17:03 GMT
#4457
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 16 2013 17:05 GMT
#4458
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 16 2013 17:09 GMT
#4459
On October 17 2013 01:45 Slayer91 wrote:
being an asshole doesn't diminish your argument, however it makes people angry which can derail argument and you'll get less useful discussion
being an asshole does make posting more satisfying however, and posting may or may not be more entertaining for others to read

'cept CSheep talks about Fizz with about as much hindsight than I do about Lux or Anivia.

Disagreeing with Ketara was fine, but why not say in which degree rather than just "stfu dumbass you're wrong Fizz still broken".
Though there was that part where he called out Ketara for talking about a champ he doesn't play that made me curious. Does it mean CSheep's extensively played Fizz to know him despite all the hatred he has for the champ?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 17:12:02
October 16 2013 17:09 GMT
#4460
On October 17 2013 02:03 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 01:45 Slayer91 wrote:
being an asshole doesn't diminish your argument, however it makes people angry which can derail argument and you'll get less useful discussion
being an asshole does make posting more satisfying however, and posting may or may not be more entertaining for others to read


being an asshole doesn't diminish your argument,

I think you are wrong and here is why. It's much like giving constructive criticism, and the most common mistake managers, esspecially new and untrained ones make, sadly it's not exclusive to this group.

For example: If a employee under you at a call center forgets to repeat a number back to the client. And you say "hey retard, don't forget to repeat the number back, people need this shit to be right" most people will just here the word retard and be either hurt or mad and not focus on the actual issue which leads to a hightend chance of that person repeating the mistake.
Conversely if you had said "hey man, you forgot to repeat the number back, If you repeat the number back we can eliminate a ton of mistakes" There is nothing for that person to get mad or sad about and they just hear what you have asked. Does it mean they will never make that mistake again, no but a far better chance. Not to mention the guy sitting beside won't say "don't worry about he's just a asshole" Like he may say in the first example which further devalues the message. It really doesn't take long for people to tune people out and see no value you in what they say "because they are just a dick" people do this to protect themselves from the hurt. Now you can say "thats there weakness", fine, but why not just deliver the message in a better way so it's not a issue?

being an asshole does make posting more satisfying however, and posting may or may not be more entertaining for others to read

You say this like it's a fact when it's a opinion. And my counter arguement to you that you find being a asshole to some one satisfying is, how do you feel when some one is a asshole to you? And then why do you enjoy making people feel like this? Esspecially people on the interent who you have nothing personal against. As for entertainment purposes, maybe for those who love pointless flame threads, with name calling and little actual debate could create there own thread, and this main thread could be for people wanting real discussion and info, with out the inet tough guy bs.


you highlighted the bold part of my first line, and then ignored the bit where i explained what you just explained. being an asshole makes people angry which makes it less likely to see your points and more likely to derail and go nuts. I just said the same thing twice, this is getting like the off topic thread.

being an asshole is generally satisfying because you get to say what you really want to say, people are opinionated and people who hate fizz want to express that even if its not objective. I said being an asshole was satisfying NOT that you should necessarily do it.
I also said may or may not be more entertaining because it depends on the person

people aren't "assholes" because they want to offend/anger the people they are arguing against (this is sometimes the case) however, this is a secondary effect.

for example cheeps post never anger me at all. he gets to say what he wants and theres no negative effects. But with someone who gets offended the argument can turn into meaningless flame quickly
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