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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 10 2013 22:33 GMT
#2881
Heimer's rework is pretty interesting actually. The change on the grenade is a massive buff and allows Heimer some semblance of an escape if he misses the stun. Lost the slow on UPGRADE though I feel like that's fine considering.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
October 10 2013 22:35 GMT
#2882
On October 11 2013 07:13 Seuss wrote:
Heimerdinger Rework:

+ Show Spoiler [Dongers] +

Passive: Techmaturgical Repair Bots
  • Heimerdinger gives nearby allied champions and H-28G Evolution Turrets bonus health regeneration per 5 seconds.
  • 10/15/20/25/30 Hp5

Q: H-28G Evolution Turret
  • Places a Turret at target location. Turret attacks and beams prioritize Heimerdinger’s targets and enemies attacking Heimerdinger. Their Health increases with Heimerdinger’s champion level and they shut down eight seconds after he moves out of the area.
  • Heimerdinger generates a Turret Kit every 24/23/22/21/20 seconds (modified by CDR), and can hold up to 1/1/2/2/3 Kits at once.
  • Mana Cost: 20
  • Cooldown: 1
  • H-28G Evolution Turret Stats
    • Health: 150 (+25 / Champion level)
    • Attack - Cannon: 15/22/29/36/42 (+0.125 AP) magic damage
    • Attack - Beam: 50/75/100/125/150 (+0.5 AP) magic damage in a line, 12 second cooldown

  • Maximum Turrets: 3

W: Hextech Micro-Rockets
  • Unleashes a barrage of 5 rockets that converge towards your cursor and fan out past it. Each rocket deals 60/90/120/150/180 (+0.45 AP) magic damage.
  • Enemies that are hit by more than one rocket take 20% magic damage for each additional rocket, max 105/160/215/270/325. Minions take 60% instead.
  • Targeting the rockets closer to Heimerdinger increases their spread.
  • Mana Cost: 70/80/90/100/110
  • Cooldown: 11

E: CH-1 Electron Storm Grenade
  • Hurls a grenade that deals 60/100/140/180/220 (+0.6 AP) magic damage to enemy units and slows their Movement Speed by 35% for 2 seconds. Enemies in the center of the blast are also stunned for 1.25 seconds.
  • Mana Cost: 85
  • Cooldown: 18/16/14/12/10

R: UPGRADE!!!
  • Heimerdinger's next basic spell is free and has bonus effects.
  • H-28Q Apex Turret: Places a Turret that deals 90/110/130 (+0.33 AP) magic damage with its cannon and 225/300/375 (+0.8 AP) magic damage with its beam for 8 seconds.
  • Hextech Rocket Swarm: Fires 4 waves that deal 135/180/225 magic damage each. Champions and Monsters hit by multiple rockets take reduced damage, max 550/750/950 (+1.8 AP).
  • CH-3X Lightning Grenade: Throws a grenade that discharges three times, dealing 150/200/250 (+0.6 AP) magic damage each time. Both the stun and slow areas are larger and the slow is improved to 80%.
  • Cooldown: 100/80/60
  • Mana Cost: 100


[citation needed]
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 10 2013 22:35 GMT
#2883
On October 11 2013 07:19 Seuss wrote:
I mean, I'll readily admit to being on the Xerath/Karma hype trains that derailed in-station, but I don't remember there ever being a Quinn hype train.

Edit: Oh. No when we talk about GD here we mean TL LoL GD.

Official GD is a cesspool of madness. It is a abyss best left to itself.

At least we're slightly better than that hue.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 10 2013 22:35 GMT
#2884
On October 11 2013 07:35 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 07:13 Seuss wrote:
Heimerdinger Rework:

+ Show Spoiler [Dongers] +

Passive: Techmaturgical Repair Bots
  • Heimerdinger gives nearby allied champions and H-28G Evolution Turrets bonus health regeneration per 5 seconds.
  • 10/15/20/25/30 Hp5

Q: H-28G Evolution Turret
  • Places a Turret at target location. Turret attacks and beams prioritize Heimerdinger’s targets and enemies attacking Heimerdinger. Their Health increases with Heimerdinger’s champion level and they shut down eight seconds after he moves out of the area.
  • Heimerdinger generates a Turret Kit every 24/23/22/21/20 seconds (modified by CDR), and can hold up to 1/1/2/2/3 Kits at once.
  • Mana Cost: 20
  • Cooldown: 1
  • H-28G Evolution Turret Stats
    • Health: 150 (+25 / Champion level)
    • Attack - Cannon: 15/22/29/36/42 (+0.125 AP) magic damage
    • Attack - Beam: 50/75/100/125/150 (+0.5 AP) magic damage in a line, 12 second cooldown

  • Maximum Turrets: 3

W: Hextech Micro-Rockets
  • Unleashes a barrage of 5 rockets that converge towards your cursor and fan out past it. Each rocket deals 60/90/120/150/180 (+0.45 AP) magic damage.
  • Enemies that are hit by more than one rocket take 20% magic damage for each additional rocket, max 105/160/215/270/325. Minions take 60% instead.
  • Targeting the rockets closer to Heimerdinger increases their spread.
  • Mana Cost: 70/80/90/100/110
  • Cooldown: 11

E: CH-1 Electron Storm Grenade
  • Hurls a grenade that deals 60/100/140/180/220 (+0.6 AP) magic damage to enemy units and slows their Movement Speed by 35% for 2 seconds. Enemies in the center of the blast are also stunned for 1.25 seconds.
  • Mana Cost: 85
  • Cooldown: 18/16/14/12/10

R: UPGRADE!!!
  • Heimerdinger's next basic spell is free and has bonus effects.
  • H-28Q Apex Turret: Places a Turret that deals 90/110/130 (+0.33 AP) magic damage with its cannon and 225/300/375 (+0.8 AP) magic damage with its beam for 8 seconds.
  • Hextech Rocket Swarm: Fires 4 waves that deal 135/180/225 magic damage each. Champions and Monsters hit by multiple rockets take reduced damage, max 550/750/950 (+1.8 AP).
  • CH-3X Lightning Grenade: Throws a grenade that discharges three times, dealing 150/200/250 (+0.6 AP) magic damage each time. Both the stun and slow areas are larger and the slow is improved to 80%.
  • Cooldown: 100/80/60
  • Mana Cost: 100


[citation needed]

http://forums.eune.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=630226
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 10 2013 22:36 GMT
#2885
On October 11 2013 07:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 07:35 xes wrote:
On October 11 2013 07:13 Seuss wrote:
Heimerdinger Rework:

+ Show Spoiler [Dongers] +

Passive: Techmaturgical Repair Bots
  • Heimerdinger gives nearby allied champions and H-28G Evolution Turrets bonus health regeneration per 5 seconds.
  • 10/15/20/25/30 Hp5

Q: H-28G Evolution Turret
  • Places a Turret at target location. Turret attacks and beams prioritize Heimerdinger’s targets and enemies attacking Heimerdinger. Their Health increases with Heimerdinger’s champion level and they shut down eight seconds after he moves out of the area.
  • Heimerdinger generates a Turret Kit every 24/23/22/21/20 seconds (modified by CDR), and can hold up to 1/1/2/2/3 Kits at once.
  • Mana Cost: 20
  • Cooldown: 1
  • H-28G Evolution Turret Stats
    • Health: 150 (+25 / Champion level)
    • Attack - Cannon: 15/22/29/36/42 (+0.125 AP) magic damage
    • Attack - Beam: 50/75/100/125/150 (+0.5 AP) magic damage in a line, 12 second cooldown

  • Maximum Turrets: 3

W: Hextech Micro-Rockets
  • Unleashes a barrage of 5 rockets that converge towards your cursor and fan out past it. Each rocket deals 60/90/120/150/180 (+0.45 AP) magic damage.
  • Enemies that are hit by more than one rocket take 20% magic damage for each additional rocket, max 105/160/215/270/325. Minions take 60% instead.
  • Targeting the rockets closer to Heimerdinger increases their spread.
  • Mana Cost: 70/80/90/100/110
  • Cooldown: 11

E: CH-1 Electron Storm Grenade
  • Hurls a grenade that deals 60/100/140/180/220 (+0.6 AP) magic damage to enemy units and slows their Movement Speed by 35% for 2 seconds. Enemies in the center of the blast are also stunned for 1.25 seconds.
  • Mana Cost: 85
  • Cooldown: 18/16/14/12/10

R: UPGRADE!!!
  • Heimerdinger's next basic spell is free and has bonus effects.
  • H-28Q Apex Turret: Places a Turret that deals 90/110/130 (+0.33 AP) magic damage with its cannon and 225/300/375 (+0.8 AP) magic damage with its beam for 8 seconds.
  • Hextech Rocket Swarm: Fires 4 waves that deal 135/180/225 magic damage each. Champions and Monsters hit by multiple rockets take reduced damage, max 550/750/950 (+1.8 AP).
  • CH-3X Lightning Grenade: Throws a grenade that discharges three times, dealing 150/200/250 (+0.6 AP) magic damage each time. Both the stun and slow areas are larger and the slow is improved to 80%.
  • Cooldown: 100/80/60
  • Mana Cost: 100


[citation needed]

http://forums.eune.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=630226

xes pls. YOU DOUBTING MONTE?!
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 10 2013 22:39 GMT
#2886
Potential Ahri changes are up as well.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-10 22:41:53
October 10 2013 22:41 GMT
#2887
Get psyched for the new donger!
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
October 10 2013 22:44 GMT
#2888
On October 11 2013 07:39 onlywonderboy wrote:
Potential Ahri changes are up as well.

The spirit rush charge CD will be huge and Riot has no idea what they're doing.

Heard it here first.
Administrator@TL_Zess
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thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
October 10 2013 22:45 GMT
#2889
There are also the PBE dataminers:

http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/25954-unofficial-pbe-changes-for-10-10-13-xerath-and

Take everything on there with a grain of salt, some of the things don't even make sense (AD ratio on cooldown duration wut).
It seems they are making another, larger pass at champions with ult costs above 100 mana and flattening them to 100 mana, including SORAKA getting her ult buff from 250 mana -> 100 mana at max rank.

The %health creep continues with Morgana's tormented soil. Zigg's ult is now way better at stealing dragons and baron.

And, for a nice move, they are fixing up the wording of a bunch of skills.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 10 2013 22:45 GMT
#2890
rip foxy lady rip
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-10 22:47:12
October 10 2013 22:46 GMT
#2891
gg ahri lol. what the fuck

also

Make Ahri’s default lane patterns more clear, so both Ahri and her opponents can make plays around them.


wat? more clear = land charm one trick pony
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
October 10 2013 22:48 GMT
#2892
Dun, dun, dunuh. Another one bites the dust...
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
October 10 2013 22:49 GMT
#2893
On October 11 2013 07:45 thenexusp wrote:
There are also the PBE dataminers:

http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/25954-unofficial-pbe-changes-for-10-10-13-xerath-and

Take everything on there with a grain of salt, some of the things don't even make sense (AD ratio on cooldown duration wut).
It seems they are making another, larger pass at champions with ult costs above 100 mana and flattening them to 100 mana, including SORAKA getting her ult buff from 250 mana -> 100 mana at max rank.

The %health creep continues with Morgana's tormented soil. Zigg's ult is now way better at stealing dragons and baron.

And, for a nice move, they are fixing up the wording of a bunch of skills.


Oh snap. Viktor's ult might get the Cassiopia treatment.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 10 2013 22:49 GMT
#2894
On October 11 2013 07:46 oneofthem wrote:
gg ahri lol. what the fuck

also

Show nested quote +
Make Ahri’s default lane patterns more clear, so both Ahri and her opponents can make plays around them.


wat? more clear = land charm one trick pony

we all know any of riot's patch explanations and justifications are completely made up and have nothing to do with the actual changes.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
October 10 2013 22:52 GMT
#2895
Why is mana even in this game.
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 10 2013 22:53 GMT
#2896
So if you land charm do you do the same amount of damage as pre-nerf? Or do you deal even less?
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-10 22:58:00
October 10 2013 22:54 GMT
#2897
That Morgana change confuses me so much. What is the goal behind it? To make her better against tanks? Don't put it on her W.. Put it on her Q imo.

Her W needs to get the Nasus treatment and that's it imo. Her weakness is that her ult is impossible to use well against all the mobility in the game (get 2 hits) and she needs more up-front burst to be relevant. A damage distribution change on W gives her a little better push potential and higher applicable damage.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
October 10 2013 22:55 GMT
#2898
On October 11 2013 07:52 xes wrote:
Why is mana even in this game.


Because blue bars are so pretty.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Loving Memory
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States70 Posts
October 10 2013 22:56 GMT
#2899
So we have Karmadinger now? :O That's exciting.
I'd just like to add that I still think karma is incredible. I just never get a chance to mid to prove it to the world. :x
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 10 2013 22:57 GMT
#2900
Real heavy-handed Ahri nerfs.

If there was any doubt to Riot taking the Blizzard (WoW) route to nerfs/buffs, this should dispel all of it.
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