EPTOn October 11 2013 05:31 Seuss wrote:
Sivir still somehow fails to be better than Lucian.
Sivir still somehow fails to be better than Lucian.
People still trashtalk Lucian? ya'll be haters
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
People still trashtalk Lucian? ya'll be haters | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On October 11 2013 06:03 Dusty wrote: People still trashtalk Lucian? ya'll be haters Dat ultimate being worse than just right clicking... | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On October 11 2013 06:05 Zdrastochye wrote: Dat ultimate being worse than just right clicking... Nononono that's not how you use it! Lucian's ult isn't supposed to outDPS his autos, it's meant to help kite and get hits in fights where he normally wouldn't. Lucian is a kiting/chasing machine who always has to be on the move, so his ult suits his kit quite nicely. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On October 11 2013 06:06 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Nononono that's not how you use it! Lucian's ult isn't supposed to outDPS his autos, it's meant to help kite and get hits in fights where he normally wouldn't. Lucian is a kiting/chasing machine who always has to be on the move, so his ult suits his kit quite nicely. Except 2 of his abilities make him stop moving to cast. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On October 11 2013 05:46 Aando wrote: She disappeared because her ulti got nerfed into the ground. the minimum damage on her Q also got wrecked, the damage on her Q if you hit a clean (no minion) Q even takes me by surprise sometimes because of how bad of a drop it takes from hitting minions. Honestly I don't even think shes a bad pick at the moment if you have a Triforce top on your team, and the mid isn't a hero that you need multiple instances of spell shield to live vs. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On October 11 2013 06:08 Requizen wrote: Except 2 of his abilities make him stop moving to cast. That's why his ultimate doesn't make him stop moving to cast  | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
things have happened to our siege tank I don't have a PBE account nor have I played Xerath so someone explain this to me. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On October 11 2013 05:46 Aando wrote: She disappeared because her ulti got nerfed into the ground. No. Sivir disappeared because her W got nerfed into the ground. The fact that it's an auto-reset actually works against it late game. On October 11 2013 06:12 canikizu wrote: That's why his ultimate doesn't make him stop moving to cast As I said before, if they made Lucian's W castable while moving it would alleviate a lot of his problems. On October 11 2013 06:17 Requizen wrote: http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3936322 things have happened to our siege tank I don't have a PBE account nor have I played Xerath so someone explain this to me. It's actually not on the PBE quite yet, but it should come out soon. | ||
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Aando
1304 Posts
On October 11 2013 06:17 Seuss wrote: No. Sivir disappeared because her W got nerfed into the ground. The fact that it's an auto-reset actually works against it late game. What are you talking about? They've barely touched her W since the re-work. Post re-work Sivir was played until they nerfed her ulti and the scaling/base damage on her Q a couple of times. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On October 11 2013 06:17 Seuss wrote: No. Sivir disappeared because her W got nerfed into the ground. The fact that it's an auto-reset actually works against it late game. Yeah, an auto reset is significantly worse than a toggle late game. I wouldn't say she's nerfed though. She got improvements in other areas. Her maximum potential is lower in that her total potential dps is lower. Take some of the newer ADC for example. They don't have jump escapes and people still play them and do well with them. Varus eg. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14164 Posts
Clearly this is my fault but what do. Passive: No longer grants armor, now grants % magic penetration and restores mana on basic attacks. Q: Can now be charged to increase the spell’s range. Mana cost and damage slightly increased. W: Is now a targeted AoE explosion that deals additional damage in the center and slows all enemies struck. Enemies in the center are slowed more. E: Is now a skillshot missile which stuns champions. R: Is a combination of Xerath’s old W and R. Immobilize yourself to gain a super-long ranged attack which deals magic damage each time you click the cursor for 3 seconds. (Max 4 shots) This is very intersting. | ||
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
On October 11 2013 06:17 Requizen wrote: http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3936322 things have happened to our siege tank I don't have a PBE account nor have I played Xerath so someone explain this to me. I don't understand this at all, this seems like just a worse current xerath unless the numbers are insane. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On October 11 2013 06:30 Aando wrote: What are you talking about? They've barely touched her W since the re-work. Post re-work Sivir was played until they nerfed her ulti and the scaling/base damage on her Q a couple of times. I'm of the opinion that Sivir post-rework was a FotM fad, as tends to happen with reworks, and regardless of those later nerfs she would have dropped off. Reworked W was simply too weak late-game to allow a 500 range carry to remain viable. On October 11 2013 06:39 upperbound wrote: I don't understand this at all, this seems like just a worse current xerath unless the numbers are insane. Seeing as how we have literally zero numbers, it's a bit early to judge. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Xerath I hope they didn't kill you. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On October 11 2013 06:55 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh shits, gonna have to DL new PBE and try this tonight. Xerath I hope they didn't kill you. What is dead may never die | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 11 2013 06:39 upperbound wrote: I don't understand this at all, this seems like just a worse current xerath unless the numbers are insane. He has 2 extra nukes so that shouldn't be the case... | ||
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
edit - thanks for pointing that out, meant to say quinn | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
but rises again harder and stronger like our moo2 sessions tomorrow b dere or b² don't forget to open your ports wide for me | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On October 11 2013 06:59 wussleeQ wrote: honestly i stopped listening to gd for the most part now. people calling terrible a few months ago after her buffs and lucian bad now make me facepalm You accidentally a word. I think a lot of the "Lucian Bad" sentiments come from the clunkiness in his kit, which is why I'll keep harping on making W castable while moving until Riot does it. | ||
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