EPTmarin, beezlehan, bischu, insert bot lane here
skt t1 #2 revival??!?!?!
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GTR
51715 Posts
marin, beezlehan, bischu, insert bot lane here skt t1 #2 revival??!?!?! | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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FSKi
United States901 Posts
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On September 09 2013 00:38 Zdrastochye wrote: Kennigit loves to drink his haterade. So Asn how about iG, huh? They look pretty good this time around. Edit: Nevermind they didn't get in, I fail at comprehension of brackets. LOL ;D was pretty sad that they didn't make it indeed, but I love me some annie support and Uzi at worlds. | ||
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Navi
5286 Posts
its ok tho he's a qt | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Yeah, tell me which solo laners would rush that. Ganking junglers? Of course they'd love that, it'd be a gold mine for a strong cc jungler to simply run at you and start hitting, the active allowing them to conserve their gap closers/cc (think Amumu, Maokai, Lee's Q, etc.) for after you blow your escape/flash. But you wouldn't see a solo laner use it, because you dump 1500 gold, which isn't too much, into pretty weak stats (albeit universally useful) and the guy working toward his Tiamat will trash you every single trade. 1500 gold isn't excessive for a full item for supports or junglers, meanwhile. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On September 09 2013 00:39 GTR wrote: so bischu said on his stream he was offered trials for kt rolster a, ctu, sk telecom t1 and alienware. marin, beezlehan, bischu, insert bot lane here skt t1 #2 revival??!?!?! that's pretty sick actually, hope he finds a team by the time the next ogn qualifiers roll around, would be nice to have someone in Champions who interacts with the western audience. Sssumday noob get 1v1. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
In competitive no matter how cheap you make an item I highly doubt we'll see it become popular as vision control and oracles are just far more important. They just have much higher impact that shurelias on the overall game scope. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
Imagine an item that gave you +15 armor, +15 mres and an aura effect "Grants you and nearby allies additional hp5 whenever at least 1 nearby unit is attacking a turret". It wouldn't mean shit for any type of carry or tank to buy this, and if the price is fair (say 1500g total) it will be easily accessible for a support or jungler. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
also I don't know why people think buying wards in solo q is any worse than in the pros, Picks are so fucking easy if you ward the shit out of the map vs some selfish ass support with 3 sightstone wards only. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On September 09 2013 00:51 Slusher wrote: at that price I'm pretty sure you'd see it shurelya's an awful lot. also I don't know why people think buying wards in solo q is any worse than in the pros, Picks are so fucking easy if you ward the shit out of the map vs some selfish ass support with 3 sightstone wards only. cause that's booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On September 09 2013 00:51 Sponkz wrote: Alaric is getting this. You create items that is ONLY useful for a jungler or a support. Imagine an item that gave you +15 armor, +15 mres and an aura effect "Grants you and nearby allies additional hp5 whenever at least 1 nearby unit is attacking a turret". It wouldn't mean shit for any type of carry or tank to buy this, and if the price is fair (say 1500g total) it will be easily accessible for a support or jungler. I think making items like that will still be easily punishable by the other team's support not buying those items, and instead buying many wards and oracles, and proceeding to get lots of pick offs. But I guess at least they won't have shurelya's. | ||
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
damn he plays in the same soloQ game as pray, watch and ssumday I'm jealous | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
However, the core idea here is that a solo laner or a "carry" role would never pick it up because of how cost-inefficient it is when it comes to combat stats. On the other hand you've got stuff like Twin Shadows which is interesting and with a somewhat "reasonable" price, however because it doesn't give much AP for a slot it's seen as very situational for solo laners (only seen Morgana and TF pick it up competitively) and the AP's cost still put it on the higher end of support-affordable items. %MS combined with the active is super strong for roaming, MR is a defensive stat so supports like it, and the active if picked up early enough is pretty strong too. It's a nice example, I'd like to see more stuff like that, maybe less pricey but with reduced stats (for example keep the amp tome rather than a lucky pick, reduce the AP, drop twin shadows to 1500)? | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On September 09 2013 01:03 Zdrastochye wrote: I think making items like that will still be easily punishable by the other team's support not buying those items, and instead buying many wards and oracles, and proceeding to get lots of pick offs. But I guess at least they won't have shurelya's. The idea is that jungle and support become support #1 and support #2. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On September 09 2013 01:05 AsnSensation wrote: holy shit that janna on bischu's stream is a fucking god damn he plays in the same soloQ game as pray, watch and ssumday I'm jealous Yeah, Bischu's stream rarely disappoints. Unlike Alaric... | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On September 09 2013 01:09 Sponkz wrote: The idea is that jungle and support become support #1 and support #2. Would that REALLY change the "meta" though, or would that just make the game more boring by going back to season 2 junglers who are supports (think Snoopeh donating his whole jungle to Froggen/Wickd) who just gank and buy fewer items? I like the idea of carry junglers, even if they can only exist in situations where people playing them know how to get fed and snowball with relative ease. Things like Master Yi jungle and whatnot. And they exist because aura items are still such trash outside locket. | ||
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