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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51647 Posts
September 08 2013 15:39 GMT
#1161
so bischu said on his stream he was offered trials for kt rolster a, ctu, sk telecom t1 and alienware.

marin, beezlehan, bischu, insert bot lane here

skt t1 #2 revival??!?!?!
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 08 2013 15:42 GMT
#1162
I think they should just spend all their money on cloning research to make 5 fakers.
FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
September 08 2013 15:42 GMT
#1163
--- Nuked ---
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
September 08 2013 15:43 GMT
#1164
Ashe's ult has won me well over 212 LP point in the past 2 days. Ashe/Zyra stronk.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 15:43:47
September 08 2013 15:43 GMT
#1165
On September 09 2013 00:38 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 00:35 AsnSensation wrote:
On September 09 2013 00:29 SimulatedAnneal wrote:
Is someone actually claiming that ripping off Smite characters is a thing? They're all based on mythologies that are thousands of years old...


I doubt it, isnt smite just literally taking god's names for their game? Like Zeus, Odin etc?

Kennigit is just super anti LoL/Riot


Kennigit loves to drink his haterade.

So Asn how about iG, huh? They look pretty good this time around.

Edit: Nevermind they didn't get in, I fail at comprehension of brackets.


LOL ;D

was pretty sad that they didn't make it indeed, but I love me some annie support and Uzi at worlds.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
September 08 2013 15:43 GMT
#1166
bischu was a fkass who missed (at least the first) tryout with SKT cuz he was out the night before LOL
its ok tho he's a qt
Hey! Listen!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 08 2013 15:45 GMT
#1167
Kindlegem + 650 gold = Shurelya, 300 HP, 10-15% CDR, unchanged active.
Yeah, tell me which solo laners would rush that.
Ganking junglers? Of course they'd love that, it'd be a gold mine for a strong cc jungler to simply run at you and start hitting, the active allowing them to conserve their gap closers/cc (think Amumu, Maokai, Lee's Q, etc.) for after you blow your escape/flash.

But you wouldn't see a solo laner use it, because you dump 1500 gold, which isn't too much, into pretty weak stats (albeit universally useful) and the guy working toward his Tiamat will trash you every single trade.
1500 gold isn't excessive for a full item for supports or junglers, meanwhile.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 08 2013 15:47 GMT
#1168
I mean, there were quite a few junglers in s2 who were really good with Shurelya so that makes sense.
Carrilord has arrived.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 08 2013 15:47 GMT
#1169
On September 09 2013 00:39 GTR wrote:
so bischu said on his stream he was offered trials for kt rolster a, ctu, sk telecom t1 and alienware.

marin, beezlehan, bischu, insert bot lane here

skt t1 #2 revival??!?!?!


that's pretty sick actually, hope he finds a team by the time the next ogn qualifiers roll around, would be nice to have someone in Champions who interacts with the western audience.

Sssumday noob get 1v1.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 08 2013 15:49 GMT
#1170
If we're talking about solo queue, there's lots of items supports are able to attain.

In competitive no matter how cheap you make an item I highly doubt we'll see it become popular as vision control and oracles are just far more important. They just have much higher impact that shurelias on the overall game scope.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
September 08 2013 15:51 GMT
#1171
Alaric is getting this. You create items that is ONLY useful for a jungler or a support.

Imagine an item that gave you +15 armor, +15 mres and an aura effect "Grants you and nearby allies additional hp5 whenever at least 1 nearby unit is attacking a turret". It wouldn't mean shit for any type of carry or tank to buy this, and if the price is fair (say 1500g total) it will be easily accessible for a support or jungler.
hi
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 08 2013 15:51 GMT
#1172
at that price I'm pretty sure you'd see it shurelya's an awful lot.

also I don't know why people think buying wards in solo q is any worse than in the pros, Picks are so fucking easy if you ward the shit out of the map vs some selfish ass support with 3 sightstone wards only.
Carrilord has arrived.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
September 08 2013 15:53 GMT
#1173
On September 09 2013 00:51 Slusher wrote:
at that price I'm pretty sure you'd see it shurelya's an awful lot.

also I don't know why people think buying wards in solo q is any worse than in the pros, Picks are so fucking easy if you ward the shit out of the map vs some selfish ass support with 3 sightstone wards only.

cause that's booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
September 08 2013 16:03 GMT
#1174
On September 09 2013 00:51 Sponkz wrote:
Alaric is getting this. You create items that is ONLY useful for a jungler or a support.

Imagine an item that gave you +15 armor, +15 mres and an aura effect "Grants you and nearby allies additional hp5 whenever at least 1 nearby unit is attacking a turret". It wouldn't mean shit for any type of carry or tank to buy this, and if the price is fair (say 1500g total) it will be easily accessible for a support or jungler.


I think making items like that will still be easily punishable by the other team's support not buying those items, and instead buying many wards and oracles, and proceeding to get lots of pick offs. But I guess at least they won't have shurelya's.
Hey! How you doin'?
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
September 08 2013 16:04 GMT
#1175
I think the argument shouldn't be visionbot vs other things, but Vision AND small slot-inefficent items that provide more opportunities to be impactful. I dunno why people think laning as a support is boring though... that's the highest impact point of the game for a support, you get to do so much.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 16:11:06
September 08 2013 16:05 GMT
#1176
holy shit that janna on bischu's stream is a fucking god

damn he plays in the same soloQ game as pray, watch and ssumday I'm jealous
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 08 2013 16:08 GMT
#1177
Yeah it's a bad exemple which is what makes it annoying to talk about "support items budget" since a single example can convey the idea but people will focus on the details. It'd obviously make life hell and transform junglers with good ganking kits not requiring to build damage to become popular again, and the 60s cd on an easy gank even past a ward is shorter than most ganking ults, while HP and CDR are universally useful.

However, the core idea here is that a solo laner or a "carry" role would never pick it up because of how cost-inefficient it is when it comes to combat stats.
On the other hand you've got stuff like Twin Shadows which is interesting and with a somewhat "reasonable" price, however because it doesn't give much AP for a slot it's seen as very situational for solo laners (only seen Morgana and TF pick it up competitively) and the AP's cost still put it on the higher end of support-affordable items.
%MS combined with the active is super strong for roaming, MR is a defensive stat so supports like it, and the active if picked up early enough is pretty strong too. It's a nice example, I'd like to see more stuff like that, maybe less pricey but with reduced stats (for example keep the amp tome rather than a lucky pick, reduce the AP, drop twin shadows to 1500)?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 16:10:06
September 08 2013 16:09 GMT
#1178
On September 09 2013 01:03 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 00:51 Sponkz wrote:
Alaric is getting this. You create items that is ONLY useful for a jungler or a support.

Imagine an item that gave you +15 armor, +15 mres and an aura effect "Grants you and nearby allies additional hp5 whenever at least 1 nearby unit is attacking a turret". It wouldn't mean shit for any type of carry or tank to buy this, and if the price is fair (say 1500g total) it will be easily accessible for a support or jungler.


I think making items like that will still be easily punishable by the other team's support not buying those items, and instead buying many wards and oracles, and proceeding to get lots of pick offs. But I guess at least they won't have shurelya's.



The idea is that jungle and support become support #1 and support #2.
hi
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 08 2013 16:13 GMT
#1179
On September 09 2013 01:05 AsnSensation wrote:
holy shit that janna on bischu's stream is a fucking god

damn he plays in the same soloQ game as pray, watch and ssumday I'm jealous

Yeah, Bischu's stream rarely disappoints.

Unlike Alaric...
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 16:15:09
September 08 2013 16:14 GMT
#1180
On September 09 2013 01:09 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 01:03 Zdrastochye wrote:
On September 09 2013 00:51 Sponkz wrote:
Alaric is getting this. You create items that is ONLY useful for a jungler or a support.

Imagine an item that gave you +15 armor, +15 mres and an aura effect "Grants you and nearby allies additional hp5 whenever at least 1 nearby unit is attacking a turret". It wouldn't mean shit for any type of carry or tank to buy this, and if the price is fair (say 1500g total) it will be easily accessible for a support or jungler.


I think making items like that will still be easily punishable by the other team's support not buying those items, and instead buying many wards and oracles, and proceeding to get lots of pick offs. But I guess at least they won't have shurelya's.



The idea is that jungle and support become support #1 and support #2.


Would that REALLY change the "meta" though, or would that just make the game more boring by going back to season 2 junglers who are supports (think Snoopeh donating his whole jungle to Froggen/Wickd) who just gank and buy fewer items? I like the idea of carry junglers, even if they can only exist in situations where people playing them know how to get fed and snowball with relative ease. Things like Master Yi jungle and whatnot.

And they exist because aura items are still such trash outside locket.
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