[Patch 3.11] General Discussion - Page 302

On September 28 2013 07:09 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
What? I post here all the time, just never in any section besides this one. The game I currently play at tournament level isn't covered here, I'm a Street Fighter player now

On September 28 2013 07:13 I_Love_Bacon wrote:


Why aren't you at Canada Cup then, brah?

On September 28 2013 07:15 obesechicken13 wrote:

Do you abuse Akuma?

On September 28 2013 06:51 sylverfyre wrote:

I feel like once the bruiser in top lane buys Doran Shield and Tabi, they just run you over.

@Jinx - she looks ridiculous at first glance, but she also has the WORST AS IN THE GAME - you are TOTALLY reliant on that machine gun passive, and your rocket launcher might have kogmaw range on demand but it doesn't have anything like Kog's typical AS or damage.

Granted, only played her vs. bots so far, but being a no-free-gapclose AD carry is tricky.

On September 28 2013 07:00 Ketara wrote:
The point is that there are some abilities that are just super awesome regardless of what the numbers are. Shen ult for example. As long as it does what Shen ult does it will be strong fairly regardless of the cooldown or the shield amount.

There are other abilities where slight number tweaks can change an ability from OP to UP very quickly.

On September 28 2013 07:40 phyvo wrote:


She has the same base AS as caitlyn. With machine gun at level 9 she's 100% AS up on caitlyn after taking per level into account. It's possible that at 525 range machine gun will have difficulty vs a bully like cait but I'd never underestimate the power of stats. She's going to get to use all that AS vs divers at the very least.



While shen ult is pretty amazing I have seen tons of abilities where people say "THIS MECHANIC IS INNATELY BROKEN" and it ends up not mattering at all because its numbers and situations just weren't in its favor. Make shen ult have 8 second channel or 4 minute cd and it becomes much more (though not entirely) useless.

On September 28 2013 07:09 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
What? I post here all the time, just never in any section besides this one. The game I currently play at tournament level isn't covered here, I'm a Street Fighter player now

On September 28 2013 06:06 Ketara wrote:


Really it's more sensible from a design perspective than starting out with the champion useless and toning skills upwards.

In general when something is too strong it's easier to see than when something isn't, so you have a better idea of what to adjust. Most of the major video game developers approach balance this way, start OP and then tone it down.

And in general if the initial look at the champion is roflop, people will be more interested, whereas, and I know this sounds crazy, even though we're going LOL RIOT POWER CREEP if the champion looked absolutely useless we'd be saying worse things.

That said, her numbers look far and beyond more ridic than the last several champions, it is a little surprising.

On September 28 2013 07:49 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
I remember that patch... The final blow that toppled AD Sona that was the patch that nerfed her early burst damage with Power Chord

On September 28 2013 07:40 phyvo wrote:


She has the same base AS as caitlyn. With machine gun at level 9 she's 100% AS up on caitlyn after taking per level into account. It's possible that at 525 range machine gun will have difficulty vs a bully like cait but I'd never underestimate the power of stats. She's going to get to use all that AS vs divers at the very least.



While shen ult is pretty amazing I have seen tons of abilities where people say "THIS MECHANIC IS INNATELY BROKEN" and it ends up not mattering at all because its numbers and situations just weren't in its favor. Make shen ult have 8 second channel or 4 minute cd and it becomes much more (though not entirely) useless.

On September 28 2013 08:14 cLutZ wrote:


That just reminds me how much I hate long Cooldown ultimates. I know they use it as a "balance" tool, but it makes it really lame When all the globals are like 200 S earlygame, or even things like Curse of the Sad Mummy and Crowstorm. A terribly unfun way of balancing is the longer cooldown.