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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
September 25 2013 20:05 GMT
#5101
I didn't know riot was capable of making a female char with sub 36D's
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 25 2013 20:16 GMT
#5102
On September 26 2013 05:05 ComaDose wrote:
I didn't know riot was capable of making a female char with sub 36D's

Stop making fun of Annie, she's very self conscious.
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 25 2013 20:19 GMT
#5103
I just hope they do something interesting with this ADC. Quinn was a decent try, but Lucian and Varus are basically just tiny adjustments of Graves and Ashe respectively.

Maybe something like a Swain ult + Tumble would be pretty cool.
Freeeeeeedom
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
September 25 2013 20:36 GMT
#5104
On September 26 2013 05:19 cLutZ wrote:
I just hope they do something interesting with this ADC. Quinn was a decent try, but Lucian and Varus are basically just tiny adjustments of Graves and Ashe respectively.

Maybe something like a Swain ult + Tumble would be pretty cool.


...What. I'm not seeing the similarities outside the obvious ones (graves lucian bursty, ashe varus cc ulti). Each has a pretty distinct play style. Graves burst in 1 second, Lucian sort of sustained burst. Ashe I'm not even sure of, she has like no similarity aside from cc ultimate.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 25 2013 20:37 GMT
#5105
She has aoe slow/decent poke and is immobile with good range.Seems pretty similar to me.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 25 2013 20:40 GMT
#5106
Quinn, Lucian, Varus, Ashe, Graves are all pretty distinct to me...

Quinn plays more like a mid laner. She has decent burst and mobility, but plays kinda like an anti-carry with her blind. She's in a weird place atm, but imo is overlooked and undervalued due to no one playing her.

Lucian is just kinda weak. His kit is pretty distinctive, although if I were to draw a comparison to any other AD carry I'd say he's like a weaker MF.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 25 2013 20:41 GMT
#5107
Ashe/Varus is a good comparison. Graves/Lucian doesn't make much sense, aside from the dash.
It's your boy Guzma!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 25 2013 20:41 GMT
#5108
On September 26 2013 05:40 Ryuu314 wrote:
Quinn, Lucian, Varus, Ashe, Graves are all pretty distinct to me...

Quinn plays more like a mid laner. She has decent burst and mobility, but plays kinda like an anti-carry with her blind. She's in a weird place atm, but imo is overlooked and undervalued due to no one playing her.

Lucian is just kinda weak. His kit is pretty distinctive, although if I were to draw a comparison to any other AD carry I'd say he's like a weaker MF.

I don't like quinn as the ADC in a duo lane, I will always say that quinn is best played top as some kind of AD nid on steroids.
Glorious SEA doto
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 25 2013 20:42 GMT
#5109
On September 26 2013 05:36 Dark_Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 05:19 cLutZ wrote:
I just hope they do something interesting with this ADC. Quinn was a decent try, but Lucian and Varus are basically just tiny adjustments of Graves and Ashe respectively.

Maybe something like a Swain ult + Tumble would be pretty cool.


...What. I'm not seeing the similarities outside the obvious ones (graves lucian bursty, ashe varus cc ulti). Each has a pretty distinct play style. Graves burst in 1 second, Lucian sort of sustained burst. Ashe I'm not even sure of, she has like no similarity aside from cc ultimate.


CC Ult, AOE slow, medium-high range, no escape. I mean, if Varus had a Farming steroid or a long-range scouting tool instead of his Q poke they would be almost the exact same champ.

And Lucian is just a lamer Graves because his Q needs to target something, and his ult is teh lame. Both are able to get some utlity out of their non-damage-non dash, both have a dash.

Freeeeeeedom
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 25 2013 20:48 GMT
#5110
On September 26 2013 05:41 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 05:40 Ryuu314 wrote:
Quinn, Lucian, Varus, Ashe, Graves are all pretty distinct to me...

Quinn plays more like a mid laner. She has decent burst and mobility, but plays kinda like an anti-carry with her blind. She's in a weird place atm, but imo is overlooked and undervalued due to no one playing her.

Lucian is just kinda weak. His kit is pretty distinctive, although if I were to draw a comparison to any other AD carry I'd say he's like a weaker MF.

I don't like quinn as the ADC in a duo lane, I will always say that quinn is best played top as some kind of AD nid on steroids.

I think we should see more AD Marksmen in solo lanes. I would be highly interested to see a double AD comp where the second AD goes top against a melee, most of which a straight Marksman would dominate. Vayne, Graves, Quinn, probably Lucian, and Trist can all fairly well dumpster many solo lanes as long as they're clever about positioning and what not. Then a tanky support jungle and possibly a tanky mage mid like Kennen, Rumble, or Ryze if they unnerf him.
It's your boy Guzma!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 25 2013 21:00 GMT
#5111
On September 26 2013 04:47 Lylat wrote:
Real another ADC ? 2 ADC in a row ? wtf

Don't see why this is an issue.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
September 25 2013 21:02 GMT
#5112
quinn triforce is pretty strong btw.
BW -> League -> CSGO
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 25 2013 21:04 GMT
#5113
On September 26 2013 06:02 wussleeQ wrote:
quinn triforce is pretty strong btw.

Really? I don't think she's spammy enough to proc it, I always thought BotRK was a much stronger timing item thanks to her natural AS steroids and already good kiting prowess.
It's your boy Guzma!
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
September 25 2013 21:15 GMT
#5114
On September 26 2013 06:04 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 06:02 wussleeQ wrote:
quinn triforce is pretty strong btw.

Really? I don't think she's spammy enough to proc it, I always thought BotRK was a much stronger timing item thanks to her natural AS steroids and already good kiting prowess.

her burst/poke/dueling is kinda stupid E + auto with sheen proc + passive is a lot of damage. phage helps you chase people even faster which was always an issue for her imo.
BW -> League -> CSGO
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 25 2013 21:17 GMT
#5115
Why not both?Since she sucks at teamfights might as well just go afk splitpush.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-25 21:24:31
September 25 2013 21:19 GMT
#5116
we were talking specifically triforce first or botrk first (although i didn't specify it explicitly), triforce botrk lw iedge is pretty much best order for her damage items though in my experience. really good soloq champ though imo. good at catching nubs that are out of place
BW -> League -> CSGO
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
September 25 2013 21:25 GMT
#5117
What is the AP corki build btw? Morello's, Void Staff then ???
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-25 21:32:04
September 25 2013 21:31 GMT
#5118
Isn't it athene>liandry>void?

Quinn seems like a good pick for soloq if you can win your lane.I've played vs a few and she seemed pretty weak(more than likely they just sucked).Also I really dislike her auto animation.Trinity seems better with how much stronger phage is than cutlass.
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
September 25 2013 21:39 GMT
#5119
does dshield passive work vs parlay?
aurawashere
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
September 25 2013 21:41 GMT
#5120
I've also seen a Chalice>Spec Wraith[farm wolves/wraiths nonstop]>Athenes>Liandry>Void>Rylais
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