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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 25 2013 21:42 GMT
#5121
On September 26 2013 06:39 Complete wrote:
does dshield passive work vs parlay?

I don't see why not. Likely Mystic Shot as well.
It's your boy Guzma!
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
September 25 2013 21:42 GMT
#5122
What do you guys think about confidence being a huge factor in landing skill shots? Sometimes when I play champions that require you to land that crucial skillshot, like Lee sin's Resonating Strike or Elise's Cocoon, when I am confident in my abilities I tend to land those skillshots a majority of the time, while on the other hand, if I'm having a bad streak of games and just feel like a shitty player overall, I miss the skill shots a lot more than when I'm confident. Or does being more experienced with the champion outweigh this completely?
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
September 25 2013 21:51 GMT
#5123
On September 26 2013 06:42 MooMooMugi wrote:
What do you guys think about confidence being a huge factor in landing skill shots? Sometimes when I play champions that require you to land that crucial skillshot, like Lee sin's Resonating Strike or Elise's Cocoon, when I am confident in my abilities I tend to land those skillshots a majority of the time, while on the other hand, if I'm having a bad streak of games and just feel like a shitty player overall, I miss the skill shots a lot more than when I'm confident. Or does being more experienced with the champion outweigh this completely?

Probably a bit of confirmation basis. Also when I suck even more then usual I tend to try and over-correct and achieve opposite levels of suck and not success. It also tends to be that players who catch skill shots with their face are often easier to beat than players who move like Barry Sanders and dodge skillshots by sometimes not moving at all!
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
September 25 2013 21:54 GMT
#5124
On September 26 2013 06:42 MooMooMugi wrote:
What do you guys think about confidence being a huge factor in landing skill shots? Sometimes when I play champions that require you to land that crucial skillshot, like Lee sin's Resonating Strike or Elise's Cocoon, when I am confident in my abilities I tend to land those skillshots a majority of the time, while on the other hand, if I'm having a bad streak of games and just feel like a shitty player overall, I miss the skill shots a lot more than when I'm confident. Or does being more experienced with the champion outweigh this completely?

I definitely feel when i get in the grove and you just know all your skill shots are going to land. that no hesitation is so key and everything just falls into place. When your losing lane its always more scary and more timid and less smooth. probably a lot of confirmation bias yeah but I think being more experienced with the champ does out weigh that completely tho. It only matters to you from game to game.
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
September 25 2013 22:10 GMT
#5125
holy shit ComaDose your signature

gg
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
September 25 2013 22:15 GMT
#5126
On September 26 2013 07:10 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
holy shit ComaDose your signature

gg

hue, good ol' day9 was the one that said it too.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Mauzel
Profile Joined December 2009
United States421 Posts
September 25 2013 22:16 GMT
#5127
A big part of it is probably that you feel confident when you are winning

And when you are winning you get into better positions to hit your skill shots.

For example, when you are losing you are throwing max range Q's but when you are winning you can get closer.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 25 2013 22:27 GMT
#5128
On September 26 2013 06:42 MooMooMugi wrote:
What do you guys think about confidence being a huge factor in landing skill shots? Sometimes when I play champions that require you to land that crucial skillshot, like Lee sin's Resonating Strike or Elise's Cocoon, when I am confident in my abilities I tend to land those skillshots a majority of the time, while on the other hand, if I'm having a bad streak of games and just feel like a shitty player overall, I miss the skill shots a lot more than when I'm confident. Or does being more experienced with the champion outweigh this completely?

I know the longer I line up a shot, the more likely I am to fuck it up. Thinking about turning overlays off.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-25 22:59:23
September 25 2013 22:51 GMT
#5129
I'm generally alright with line skillshots except for blitz pull. I actually find thresh hook easier to land. Circle skillshots with lots of visual warning like gragas's are really hard. I feel like when I'm "on" it's basically because I've gotten into the head of my target, I don't have trouble with basic leading.

Blitz pull is nearly impossible though, zzz. Some people make it seem like pull has an extra 100 range. Also, if I'm within 250 range of people I have a tendency to simply miss.

Worst blitz NA?

edit: I guess my point is I don't feel like my confidence has much to do with it, it's more just the yomi between me and my opponent along with the natural challenge of the skillshot itself.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 25 2013 22:57 GMT
#5130
Both confirmation bias and selection bias. When you feel like a tool it's because you're playing bad, not the other way around.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
September 25 2013 23:31 GMT
#5131
with lee sin i just chase while they juke back and forth and aim in between the sides and they juke right into it every time
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
September 25 2013 23:34 GMT
#5132
I don't see Jinx being an ADC. Riot generally releases thematic champs in different roles, and Piltover already has Caitlyn. She's probably designed as a mid or top(which potentially means accidental jungle overlap with Vi but not on purpose).
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
September 26 2013 00:03 GMT
#5133
i always immediately try every new champ jungle and suck with them and then they turn out to be op jungle later (vi, aatrox, elise in particular)
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 26 2013 00:11 GMT
#5134
On September 26 2013 09:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
i always immediately try every new champ jungle and suck with them and then they turn out to be op jungle later (vi, aatrox, elise in particular)

Elise feels underwhelming unless you're really good, I think she's harder to use than even lee sin.
liftlift > tsm
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
September 26 2013 00:21 GMT
#5135
On September 26 2013 09:11 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 09:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
i always immediately try every new champ jungle and suck with them and then they turn out to be op jungle later (vi, aatrox, elise in particular)

Elise feels underwhelming unless you're really good, I think she's harder to use than even lee sin.


I think the tank Elise build that is popular is really underwhelming. Seems like you can't duel anybody anymore and you can't make sick assassination plays. She has all this mobility and potential damage but it seems wasted with full tank builds. I think you still gotta go Golem first, but then get some damage.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 26 2013 00:22 GMT
#5136
I'm so proud of ghandi

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

He even has a skin and everything.
It's your boy Guzma!
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
September 26 2013 00:33 GMT
#5137
On September 26 2013 09:22 Requizen wrote:
I'm so proud of ghandi

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

He even has a skin and everything.

Just gonna throw his business out in the street for everyone to see huh?
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 26 2013 00:40 GMT
#5138
Thoughts on last few pages:
Jinx is a stupid name, and I have no idea who that purple/pink person is in the picture someone posted. I do like the idea though and she looks positively psychotic---here's hoping the VOs and animations work to compliment that.

I kinda feel bad for Voidle if he does get replaced by Edward because I don't agree that Voidle was the cause of Gambit's losses in the slightest. I don't really see an Edward/Genja lane beating Imp consistently either.
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
September 26 2013 00:54 GMT
#5139
On September 26 2013 09:22 Requizen wrote:
I'm so proud of ghandi

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

He even has a skin and everything.

I am now Pastor of the church of Teeto.

PEW PEW PEW PEW FUCKING QUADRAS
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
WilDMousE
Profile Joined July 2011
Chile1335 Posts
September 26 2013 01:00 GMT
#5140
On September 26 2013 09:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
Thoughts on last few pages:
Jinx is a stupid name, and I have no idea who that purple/pink person is in the picture someone posted. I do like the idea though and she looks positively psychotic---here's hoping the VOs and animations work to compliment that.

I kinda feel bad for Voidle if he does get replaced by Edward because I don't agree that Voidle was the cause of Gambit's losses in the slightest. I don't really see an Edward/Genja lane beating Imp consistently either.

Idk why but i get a vibe she'll be a tiny tina on runeterra
Barackopala
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