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Ethelis
United States2400 Posts
On September 20 2013 01:40 Amui wrote: Well I got my 4k post out of the way, no more worrying about that. I'm a scout now~ Teemo welcomes you and hopes you enjoy your stay as a scout. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On September 20 2013 03:13 Ethelis wrote: Teemo welcomes you and hopes you enjoy your stay as a scout. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On September 20 2013 03:10 Amui wrote: You need to figure out how to get him off of creeps. Do a good(great) trade, and then position yourself so you can punish every creep he touches. He can CS with his E, but that's just more HP in your favor. Save resources when he's below 50% so you can burst him to zero with ignite. And IMO his passive is retarded. Absolutely no reason he needs to be invulnerable for the duration. Should be takes reduced damage at best, because free GA is dumb. Yeah, so as I thought you need to outtrade him really, really, really hard (which means burst because his dumb as fuck W lets him sustain any dps-oriented fight), and then still be able to beat him in a 1v1 spells on cooldown fight so you can keep him off creeps, and then somehow manage to have a wave pushing your way so you can freeze otherwise he's just going to give up 5 cs so he can heal to full as soon as the wave reaches his tower and you have to do it all over again. Of course when you outtrade him you have not to use ignite or any stuff that you'd need in an all-in otherwise he'll just ignore you, and you have to remain high health enough that he can't just say "0K, whatever, I'll sack my passive on this trade but as soon as I revive I all-in and kill you". ... This champ design is even more mind-bogglingly retarded than Yorick. "Fun" they say. Wtf. And if you fall a tiny bit behind (or aren't able to outtrade him 1v1 to begin with, which is probably the case of a lot of champions) then then you automatically lose the lane. Such great counterplay and healthy "top lane" design. What. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
That said Aatrox is pretty fucking good against Yorick lol | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
He also doesn't scale nearly as well, nor does he 1v1 as well in general out of lane, and he sucks way more at killing towers. He's much less useful in teamfights. I mean, I'm not forgiving the damned soul who designed Yorick. I'm just saying some twisted dude apparently took on the challenge to make even worse. | ||
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Mauzel
United States421 Posts
His sustained DPS is actually insane. The thing is you have to build a comp around it for it to be reliable (Q is hardish to hit and it's hard to get a respectable duration of W onto someone). Again Ult is largely icing on the cake and it works great with W. Also Aatrox's 1v1 is a teensy bit silly. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On September 20 2013 03:13 MattBarry wrote: His ult is pretty good at setting up ganks imo, they should buff Malz's base damages by a lot, and lower his scaling. Stick the support tag on him and all's good. Malz would be a pretty good support if he wasn't so farm dependent. Large aoe 3 second silence, pretty good zone control with void zone thingie since it absolutely melts shit that doesn't move out of it, long-ass single target disable. W's out of place for a support skill set, but meh nothing's perfect. On September 20 2013 03:33 Mauzel wrote: Did I see someone say Malz's sustained DPS was bad? His sustained DPS is actually insane. The thing is you have to build a comp around it for it to be reliable (Q is hardish to hit and it's hard to get a respectable duration of W onto someone). Again Ult is largely icing on the cake and it works great with W. Also Aatrox's 1v1 is a teensy bit silly. His sustained dps is great, it's jsut easily countered by QSS, which makes fitting him in a team comp a huge problem. You really don't want one of your carries practically nullfied by a single, relatively cheap, item. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On September 20 2013 03:33 Mauzel wrote: Did I see someone say Malz's sustained DPS was bad? His sustained DPS is actually insane. The thing is you have to build a comp around it for it to be reliable (Q is hardish to hit and it's hard to get a respectable duration of W onto someone). Again Ult is largely icing on the cake and it works great with W. Also Aatrox's 1v1 is a teensy bit silly. You can walk out of his W, Q is more of a lucky-shot than a "im incredible at hitting" and his E is only good for pushing. Where exactly is the sustained dps in a kit like his? | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + poland wut Also, holy shit I didn't know that that was Riv 3 commentating back then. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Npyh interview on changes, basically PR talk, h2k and copenhagen pups look gud and he's not sure who's coming. Also holy mother of dr pepper cans. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Don_Julio
2220 Posts
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On September 20 2013 03:13 MattBarry wrote: His ult is pretty good at setting up ganks read post, it's about team fights. and honestly the ult is pretty strong for ganks in absolute terms, but relative to other standard mid assists it's just above average. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On September 20 2013 04:25 Shikyo wrote: People still complain about Yorick? He's really really bad. After the Muramana nerfs he's been unplayable except maybe in some protect-the-vayne comps. 'cept the part where I don't talk about his competitiveness but how stale and boring it is to lane against him. Doesn't need to be good later to be an horrendous design. Also EUW seems to have random huge lags. Good thing for me I was playing Vi so as long as I was near people the autos would do their job, but choosing a target was really hard at times, including for my ult (and try to ult a Fizz during a cc before he can E or Zhonya when you're not sure what's happening). Another person had the same in my last game (I thought he was dc'd at one point) and neither my displayed ping nor my latency seemed to be changing. So I'm guessing EUW's servers are having some kind of trouble again. Welp. :/ | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On September 20 2013 04:49 Alaric wrote: 'cept the part where I don't talk about his competitiveness but how stale and boring it is to lane against him. Doesn't need to be good later to be an horrendous design. Yeah. Yorick is niche and requires specific picks to remain relevant, but that doesn't stop him from being a giant cunt to everyone he lanes against and require no skill to do so. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 20 2013 04:26 Don_Julio wrote: SK Scip pls Fuck that. Then I would have root for ocelete in eu lcs. And I would not want to do that. | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On September 20 2013 04:26 Don_Julio wrote: SK Scip pls Also. What happened to Lissandra theorycrafting. I was genuinely interested in watching that happen haha. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On September 20 2013 04:49 Alaric wrote: 'cept the part where I don't talk about his competitiveness but how stale and boring it is to lane against him. Doesn't need to be good later to be an horrendous design. Also EUW seems to have random huge lags. Good thing for me I was playing Vi so as long as I was near people the autos would do their job, but choosing a target was really hard at times, including for my ult (and try to ult a Fizz during a cc before he can E or Zhonya when you're not sure what's happening). Another person had the same in my last game (I thought he was dc'd at one point) and neither my displayed ping nor my latency seemed to be changing. So I'm guessing EUW's servers are having some kind of trouble again. Welp. :/ How can you be surprised by euw lagging?That is the same as the sky being blue. Also I hope vi ult gets nerfed.I don't really care about the champ but her ult being imposible to dodge no matter what you do is just stupid.Every single other cc in the game has counterplay(banshee doesn't count since it's rather easy to get rid of).Nauti ult is the only similar mechanic but its a lot weaker because it is slower. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On September 20 2013 04:50 Requizen wrote: Yeah. Yorick is niche and requires specific picks to remain relevant, but that doesn't stop him from being a giant cunt to everyone he lanes against and require no skill to do so. Seems people just have some PTSD for Yorick. He's far less of a cunt than a lot of the top laners these days. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On September 20 2013 05:05 Numy wrote: Seems people just have some PTSD for Yorick. He's far less of a cunt than a lot of the top laners these days. I can't think of many other tops that are as braindead to play as Yorick is once he gets Tear. Even the strong ones have counterplay/require a measure of skill to dominate with. | ||
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