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Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
September 17 2013 04:17 GMT
#3461
Is it just me, or is what Riot sugesting in the "unique vision slot" something that shouldn't be a unique slot?
A) A re-usable ward (1 hp, 90 sec cd) [Upgrades into dropping real wards]
B) An item that is basically a mini CV (90 sec cd) [Upgrades into longer range/radius]
C) A scanner that lets you reveal hidden wards (90 sec cd) [Upgrades into shorter cooldown/limited oracles effect]
These sound like cool ideas non-supports, since supports probably still going to get sightstone/ora, and stuff like cv should be bought pretty early in
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
September 17 2013 04:19 GMT
#3462
On September 17 2013 13:08 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 12:17 TheRabidDeer wrote:
On September 17 2013 12:11 upperbound wrote:
On September 17 2013 12:10 TheRabidDeer wrote:
What to do vs sejuani + kat as lux in mid? I did fine early even killing kat, but once sejuani left jungle they would both dive tower and I would just die (had river warded, but not up by tower so he just came in that way), then it just kinda snowballed out of control.

Ward well and try to get your jungler to countergank. If your jungle can interrupt Kat ult under turret for you, it's pretty easy to turn around.

Our jungler was Evelynn and was never around mid, almost always bot and sometimes top

So basically just try and play super safe around the turret and like 4 wards is the main solution if you cant rely on your jungler?


2 wards should be enough to cover the mid lane. If you ward wraith entrance and banana brush, he cant really gank you unless the rest of your team doesn't ward and he goes in through your top/bot jungle entrances.

Lux vs a good diving combo is no fun though, if you have to play vs it, make sure your jungler knows they can dive you easy, because it's really easy to turn the dives into double kills for your team if he's on the same page as you.

Ah OK. And nobody really wards, I am still low level. I will have to start warding banana brush instead of the brush in river.
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
September 17 2013 05:23 GMT
#3463
On September 17 2013 13:19 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 13:08 zodde wrote:
On September 17 2013 12:17 TheRabidDeer wrote:
On September 17 2013 12:11 upperbound wrote:
On September 17 2013 12:10 TheRabidDeer wrote:
What to do vs sejuani + kat as lux in mid? I did fine early even killing kat, but once sejuani left jungle they would both dive tower and I would just die (had river warded, but not up by tower so he just came in that way), then it just kinda snowballed out of control.

Ward well and try to get your jungler to countergank. If your jungle can interrupt Kat ult under turret for you, it's pretty easy to turn around.

Our jungler was Evelynn and was never around mid, almost always bot and sometimes top

So basically just try and play super safe around the turret and like 4 wards is the main solution if you cant rely on your jungler?


2 wards should be enough to cover the mid lane. If you ward wraith entrance and banana brush, he cant really gank you unless the rest of your team doesn't ward and he goes in through your top/bot jungle entrances.

Lux vs a good diving combo is no fun though, if you have to play vs it, make sure your jungler knows they can dive you easy, because it's really easy to turn the dives into double kills for your team if he's on the same page as you.

Ah OK. And nobody really wards, I am still low level. I will have to start warding banana brush instead of the brush in river.


Yeah warding in low level games (or even higher level games...) can feel pointless when you're the only one on your team doing it. But remember, it doesn't only keep you safe, it also helps your team be safe and lets you and your team have a good grasp of where the enemy jungler currently is and where he might be going.

One ward on either side mid is enough to keep you safe and stop the enemy jungler from going into your jungle through mid and bypassing top/bot wards that way.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 06:27:03
September 17 2013 06:25 GMT
#3464
wrong thread :\
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 17 2013 06:28 GMT
#3465
On September 17 2013 12:20 Requizen wrote:
What are the Aatrox builds you guys are seeing? I've been running him 9/21/0 in both top and jungle, with DBlades/BotRK as damage items and SV/Randuin's/GA as tank items. Double Revive is pretty good, though I think with his decent AD scaling Hydra or BT might be better than BotRK - though BotRK is what it is and very strong.

I Think hydra is the best because his kit is all as steroids.
Freeeeeeedom
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
September 17 2013 07:36 GMT
#3466
On September 17 2013 15:28 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 12:20 Requizen wrote:
What are the Aatrox builds you guys are seeing? I've been running him 9/21/0 in both top and jungle, with DBlades/BotRK as damage items and SV/Randuin's/GA as tank items. Double Revive is pretty good, though I think with his decent AD scaling Hydra or BT might be better than BotRK - though BotRK is what it is and very strong.

I Think hydra is the best because his kit is all as steroids.


Hydra + tank items is the best for Aatrox, but the reason everyone gets BoRK on him is because of the slow the active brings. With the slow nerfed it seems like people will favor the Hydra now.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
September 17 2013 07:48 GMT
#3467
for the first time in ranked, i had two actual trolls who just wanted to feed and lose

holy fuck that is infuriating, i can see why everyone complains about "feeders and ragers" now
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
September 17 2013 07:55 GMT
#3468
and now i'm stuck with game abandoned bug

riot just knows how to make me smile
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 17 2013 08:27 GMT
#3469
Getting items as Aatrox? Obviously doing it wrong.

Gotta be like Lovelin--marginally richer than your support and same gold value as enemy jungler even though you're in a stomp game--and still willing to manmode 1v5 with DBlade+Cutlass.
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Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
September 17 2013 09:11 GMT
#3470
Anyone else on EUW constantly getting "The game has crashed. Please try to reconnect to the game." screens?
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
September 17 2013 09:29 GMT
#3471
wow, that game with the trolls i jsut posted about didnt even count, not in my match history after the game abandoned thing cleared up

shallow stay winning
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 17 2013 10:02 GMT
#3472
On September 17 2013 17:27 TheYango wrote:
Getting items as Aatrox? Obviously doing it wrong.

Gotta be like Lovelin--marginally richer than your support and same gold value as enemy jungler even though you're in a stomp game--and still willing to manmode 1v5 with DBlade+Cutlass.

If you're not diving turrets 5 minutes in you're doing something wrong.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 17 2013 11:28 GMT
#3473
On September 17 2013 12:31 LoCicero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 12:16 Dark_Chill wrote:
Panth vs Victor. Who does that favor?
Edit: Need to see if I can rationalize being bad


IMO I actually think it favors viktor if you play it right.

You can take standard caster runes and masteries, make sure you have armor yellows. Rush that pre-hourglass item (whatever it's called, can't remember, shard or something...), and max Q if you're looking to beat him outright at 6. Max E if you want to be passive early and just farm/push him in so he loses a lot of xp if he ganks.

If he jumps you just W yourself and run away. The stun lasts long enought hat he cant follow up W.

All in all I think you should be alright.

Considering Viktor's W long animation, wouldn't Panth be able to at least auto-Q or full-channel E him before he gets stunned? You'd have to react pretty fast to even be able to start the animation before you're stunned, too.

Problem with Viktor is his Q favours him if he can get the initiative (you only get the shield as the projectile returns) so he's protected from retaliation. Seems to often be the case when I play people who don't understand him, but considering that as Pantheon you want to trade hard early, if I see Viktor walking up to me I'll make sure to Q him as soon as he gets in range so that it won't get shielded even if Viktor does the same.
I should have more MR than he has armour, and at low level my Q's on only half his' cooldown, he can't win this way.

Think I'd rather cower the first levels, even if it means missing some farm, and take W at level 3 or 4 (instead of skipping it till 8 as I do pretty often when I want to trade). Once the lane is pushed, if the jungler comes you can drop W under Pantheon as he comes to Q you (since you're pushed he shouldn't try to stun you within tower range unless you're low enough to die, and then you fucked up) and since he has no escapes it's at least his Flash burnt, if not a kill.

Makes me wonder in which match-ups one would max Q as Viktor, since it trades pretty hard if you can make use of it, but it's so short-ranged and anyone with quick bursts (Kass, Annie, etc.) can unload before your shield comes back.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Deleted User 45971
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
533 Posts
September 17 2013 12:00 GMT
#3474
What reds/quints are people using on Aatrox? Is it just AS reds and ad/ms quints or do people run AD reds and LS quints for dblade start like I've seen many Lee players do?
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
September 17 2013 12:02 GMT
#3475
Jatt does realise it's pronounced "Push-oo", not "Poo-Shoe" right?
@miicah88
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 17 2013 12:39 GMT
#3476
On September 17 2013 21:02 miicah wrote:
Jatt does realise it's pronounced "Push-oo", not "Poo-Shoe" right?

Rekkles was way cooler when everyone pronounced his name as Rek-uls.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 17 2013 12:44 GMT
#3477
On September 17 2013 21:39 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 21:02 miicah wrote:
Jatt does realise it's pronounced "Push-oo", not "Poo-Shoe" right?

Rekkles was way cooler when everyone pronounced his name as Rek-uls.


Reckless is so bad I don't even. Rek-uls all the way.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
September 17 2013 12:50 GMT
#3478
On September 17 2013 21:39 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 21:02 miicah wrote:
Jatt does realise it's pronounced "Push-oo", not "Poo-Shoe" right?

Rekkles was way cooler when everyone pronounced his name as Rek-uls.

I refuse to acknowledge any other way to pronounce it.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
September 17 2013 12:52 GMT
#3479
On September 17 2013 10:17 Kiett wrote:
i've been spamming TF/sorcs corki like mad (hi there free ride to diamond), and am currently 4-0 with it today. but this last game, enemy team first picked corki, so I was kind of at loss as to what to do.

then it dawned on me.

TIME TO GENJA

http://puu.sh/4tgwp.jpg

aahahahahahahahahhaa ty based trinity :'D

Where's the sorc boots?!!?
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
September 17 2013 13:40 GMT
#3480
And who thought Kog'Maw would be such a good tri-force user like 1½-2 years ago?


.....


FINALLY IM RIGHT WOOHOO
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