EPT[Patch 3.11] General Discussion - Page 16
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
i wish i had thousands of friends where can i sign up for friends | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On September 05 2013 09:08 FinestHour wrote: ok i understand that you are having problems with the 5 year old programmers you have updating your servers. but seriously. if my account gets banned because of YOUR mistakes in programming im gonna be a very unhappy customer. and the customer is always right. so here is the deal. if you dont fix your little bug problem. im gonna veto your game along with thousands of my friends. this is bull**** that summoners dont need to deal with. have a good day i wish i had thousands of friends where can i sign up for friends Have you tried renting them at the friend store? | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
Zac is going to take forever to balance as long as they keep in this weird blob stomping mechanic. First of all, he would be a decent laner without any sustain, just based on no mana + easy gapcloser/escape + good base damages + slow. That means that since the blob dropping is random, its really hard for it to be balanced game-to-game. Same with Zed, because if you hurt his numbers, he will lose. Thresh is different because no matter the numbers he will be confoundedly powerful. Honestly, Dark Passage + a diver is better in some ways than blitz hook. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On September 05 2013 09:14 cLutZ wrote: The thing about release Zyra, is even though she was too good, balancing her was fairly simple: Damage nerf, slower spells, done. They nerfed a mid laner so hard she's almost exclusively used as a support now. I don't know if I'd consider that a success or a good nerf. I mean she's a sick support, but her solo laning is almost non-existent now. | ||
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Pooshlmer
United States1001 Posts
On September 05 2013 09:14 cLutZ wrote: The thing about release Zyra, is even though she was too good, balancing her was fairly simple: Damage nerf, slower spells, done. Zac is going to take forever to balance as long as they keep in this weird blob stomping mechanic. First of all, he would be a decent laner without any sustain, just based on no mana + easy gapcloser/escape + good base damages + slow. That means that since the blob dropping is random, its really hard for it to be balanced game-to-game. Same with Zed, because if you hurt his numbers, he will lose. Thresh is different because no matter the numbers he will be confoundedly powerful. Honestly, Dark Passage + a diver is better in some ways than blitz hook. Sometimes I think they should just remove the bonus damage on E entirely. Would still be really good. | ||
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Ethelis
United States2397 Posts
On September 05 2013 09:16 Diamond wrote: They nerfed a mid laner so hard she's almost exclusively used as a support now. I don't know if I'd consider that a success or a good nerf. I mean she's a sick support, but her solo laning is almost non-existent now. It's nothing that boosting her ratios and lowering her free damage (like her plants) can't fix. | ||
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
Personally I think Zac's sustain while annoying wasn't the critically broken part of the champion, though it may have further fueled the problem. Rather, the mobility range and silly high base damages seem out of place. This (very slight) nerf may make Zac weak enough in lane that those issues are masked, but I think it makes his kit lopsided in the uninteresting way (as opposed to the cool design way). | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On September 05 2013 09:16 Diamond wrote: They nerfed a mid laner so hard she's almost exclusively used as a support now. I don't know if I'd consider that a success or a good nerf. I mean she's a sick support, but her solo laning is almost non-existent now. When people were toying around with Burning Brush Zyra I thought the general consensus was she was actually still pretty strong with more traditional AP items. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
The most disappointing part of Zac for me still is that he isn't amorphous like the preview hinted he might be, what a complete failure to take advantage of unlimited possibilities his character design is. | ||
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silencefc
United States875 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On September 05 2013 09:26 Slusher wrote: She does fine mid, but she's really fucking slow so her roaming isn't amazing, so you basically get a 1v1 farming statue, who transitions into a team fight monster, which is decent, just not what most people are playing at the moment. The most disappointing part of Zac for me still is that he isn't amorphous like the preview hinted he might be, what a complete failure to take advantage of unlimited possibilities his character design is. To me, all this read is "She's Karthus without global pressure." | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On September 05 2013 09:36 Gahlo wrote: To me, all this read is "She's Karthus without global pressure." I almost actually wrote that exact thing when I was writing that lol. She does have more CC, but the reason people don't play her is pretty much what Gahlo said to a T, I would say her teamfight is a bit stronger though, more up front burst instead of post mordem. she can however snowball a lane better than Karthus should her lane opponent happen to fuck up a couple times. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On September 05 2013 09:39 Slusher wrote: I almost actually wrote that exact thing when I was writing that lol. She does have more CC, but the reason people don't play her is pretty much what Gahlo said to a T, I would say her teamfight is a bit stronger though, more up front burst instead of post mordem. she can however snowball a lane better than Karthus should her lane opponent happen to fuck up a couple times. I think the reason she's not played mid is because nobody on the professional level plays her consistently. She's definitely a serviceable mid. She's not top tier, but she's not weak either. Mid is also one of the most robust roles in pubs, it probably has the most potentially playable champions. | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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