EPT*I know Regi's a shotcaller, businessman, and has a hot gf.(GG)
*If I wanted a REAL contest i will pit td shikyo px math jaz together.
[Patch 3.11] General Discussion - Page 132
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
*I know Regi's a shotcaller, businessman, and has a hot gf.(GG) *If I wanted a REAL contest i will pit td shikyo px math jaz together. | ||
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
On September 13 2013 15:22 Shelke14 wrote: Shh don't try and speak sense around here when talking about regi or TSM, the amount of TSM hate here by some people will make them to rabid. Best just to stick to the shadows and enjoy the BAYLIFE life style. Enjoy that we are constantly among the best or if not thee best NA team over the past couple years We've got a lot more to cheer about than those dirty CLG fans. And I haven't heard a peep out of a Dignitas fan for nearly a year. Also we all know C9 is basically TSM B so we get to adopt them too. ^_^ | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
What is unequivocally sad is that I just realized that of my 3 favorite characters in LoL to play, I am terrible at one, one is terrible, and the third is Singed. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 13 2013 15:29 cLutZ wrote: I think its either Amazing or Sad that TSM is still the #2 (3 at worst) team in NA, and was #1 for Basically 2 years straight without having a player on the team that wasn't at S1 worlds. Like I said, awesome, or sad. What is unequivocally sad is that I just realized that of my 3 favorite characters in LoL to play, I am terrible at one, one is terrible, and the third is Singed. The worst part is, I don't feel they've radically improved at all. Wild Turtle was a nice change of pace, but as a team I never felt a huge momentum shift in terms of skills. That being said, the ol' troika has been like that all of Season 3. | ||
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Vanka
China1336 Posts
On September 13 2013 15:29 cLutZ wrote: I think its either Amazing or Sad that TSM is still the #2 (3 at worst) team in NA, and was #1 for Basically 2 years straight without having a player on the team that wasn't at S1 worlds. Like I said, awesome, or sad. What is unequivocally sad is that I just realized that of my 3 favorite characters in LoL to play, I am terrible at one, one is terrible, and the third is Singed. When I was making my climb up the chinese ladder I stagnated in platinum because of the five adcs I played, all of them were countered by mf, cait, varus and draven. Patches happened and all those times I struggled to learn the mechanics to outplay champions who were advantaged in lane against me paid off and I shot straight up to diamond 1 and eventually challenger. Keep at it, changes happen. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On September 13 2013 15:32 wei2coolman wrote: The worst part is, I don't feel they've radically improved at all. Wild Turtle was a nice change of pace, but as a team I never felt a huge momentum shift in terms of skills. That being said, the ol' troika has been like that all of Season 3. Except TSM has been the only successful part of the troika recently, so surely there's something somewhere  Honestly, I remember when it was rumored that Cloud 9 would move into the TSM house and everyone was super hyped because TSM would get a lot better. I wish that had happened because both teams would be a real threat at Worlds, I feel. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 13 2013 15:39 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Except TSM has been the only successful part of the troika recently, so surely there's something somewhere Honestly, I remember when it was rumored that Cloud 9 would move into the TSM house and everyone was super hyped because TSM would get a lot better. I wish that had happened because both teams would be a real threat at Worlds, I feel. Well to be honest the Troika really hasn't shifted at all. It's still TSM on top, with CLG-Dig fighting it out, and Curse being the perma 4th place, out of the top 4. Then Vulcun and C9 just moved up in front. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On September 13 2013 15:38 Vanka wrote: When I was making my climb up the chinese ladder I stagnated in platinum because of the five adcs I played, all of them were countered by mf, cait, varus and draven. Patches happened and all those times I struggled to learn the mechanics to outplay champions who were advantaged in lane against me paid off and I shot straight up to diamond 1 and eventually challenger. Keep at it, changes happen. Vayne man. I always have fun while going 1/300/1. IDK why. Like, im decent at other AD carries, just not damn Vayne. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On September 13 2013 15:14 wei2coolman wrote: Can't be delusional and run the most financially successful team in NA. Why not? Verifiably batshit insane people often are far more successful than Regi. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 13 2013 16:06 cLutZ wrote: Vayne man. I always have fun while going 1/300/1. IDK why. Like, im decent at other AD carries, just not damn Vayne. Then you some how farm up enough for 3 items, and you go "lol so much for your 300 kills in lane, i'm fucking vayne, lololol let me melt through your entire team"? On September 13 2013 16:11 Amui wrote: Random thought: Rengar is the only champion in the game who wants to spam every skill he has on cooldown. Even other resourceless champions have to put thought into their gameplan because they don't get rewarded for spamming skills, only for winning trades. Not anymore, he doesn't get free ferocity or w.e, anymore. He has to hit his targets for him to get stacks. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On September 13 2013 16:11 Amui wrote: Random thought: Rengar is the only champion in the game who wants to spam every skill he has on cooldown. Even other resourceless champions have to put thought into their gameplan because they don't get rewarded for spamming skills, only for winning trades. Kat doesn't. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On September 13 2013 16:09 wei2coolman wrote: Then you some how farm up enough for 3 items, and you go "lol so much for your 300 kills in lane, i'm fucking vayne, lololol let me melt through your entire team"? Nah man, I tumble in when I should tumble out, and tumble out when I should tumble in. If I want to carry lategame I just play Kog/Trist, because I'm actually good at those champs. On September 13 2013 16:11 Amui wrote: Random thought: Rengar is the only champion in the game who wants to spam every skill he has on cooldown. Even other resourceless champions have to put thought into their gameplan because they don't get rewarded for spamming skills, only for winning trades. Rengar is stupid, and not capable of being balanced in his current form, or any proposed form, or really any form that retains anything Rengar-like. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
shunpo. Also her ult requires more decision making than "it's up, time to roam and try to kill somebody with triple Q and button spam" | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On September 13 2013 16:16 Amui wrote: shunpo. Also her ult requires more decision making than "it's up, time to roam and try to kill somebody with triple Q and button spam" No, as kat you spam your spells on cd, and blow your ult to push your opponent out of the lane so you can free farm and they lose farm or get poked to death at turret. You just rinse and repeat until you have enough of an advantage you can just can tower dive them anyways eventually. Rengar can't spam everything whenever it's off cd because w requires a target hit to gain ferocity, if you really want to be a dick about spamming spells. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On September 13 2013 16:11 Amui wrote: Random thought: Rengar is the only champion in the game who wants to spam every skill he has on cooldown. Even other resourceless champions have to put thought into their gameplan because they don't get rewarded for spamming skills, only for winning trades. Not really. If you're jungling you try to get to 5 stacks before ganking so you have the most to work with during the gank and possibly an empowered E if needed. You want to auto before each Q to get the auto reset off without wasting a reset by getting an empowered and regular Q W is useful when teamfighting or jungling for the armor/resists, not just the damage, so you space them out to get the armor bonus for longer so you can tank more damage. (Armor and mr do not stack on Rengar) Of course Rengar's bola is an up front slow that gets weaker so you want to throw the second one, not immediately after the first, but you don't necessarily want to wait for the first to wear off before throwing the second one either because the slow becomes almost nothing for the last second making catching up to your opponent more important. If you're jungling you should be playing energy or non-mana champs so you can donate blue without hurting yourself. This is just an advantage some junglers have that is offset by the efficiency of spirit stone. Why the hell does Lee Sin not want to spam skills? #BringBackManaCosts It's hard to play against a good Rengar but it's also hard to play a good Rengar. Instead of making every melee champ easy to counter I'd rather the game just made more melees hard to deal with like Rengar. Yesterday I saw Voyboy (losing team, not fed) 1v1 a Jax as Urgot. That was just dumb. But it's also dumb that Rengar has two abilities with a base of 150 damage. Few other champion has such shitty ability scaling. Empowered strikes are good but they're not as good as any ult in terms of damage. In order to balance Rengar they had to make the base damage on his abilities nearly the lowest in the game for melee assasins because his stealth ganks and resourcelessness were too strong. Similarly Katarina has shitty base damage on her abilities and doesn't use mana, but she needs low base damage otherwise she'd get fed and become an unstoppable pentakill machine much more often. Both Rengar and Kat are also highly dependent on items due to their low base damage. | ||
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
On September 13 2013 04:30 cLutZ wrote: I was mostly talking about NA pros. Like does anyone know what happened to the old Broodwar Americans not named IdrA, Artosis, or Day[9]? Are they currently making bank at Sony because of their e-sports background, or, more likely, finally finishing an associates at age 28? Well american broodwar pros weren't really pros. They went to school, and only trained really hard within the month leading up to WCG. There just weren't enough foreign events to sustain yourself. So they're probably doing the same as regular people? | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On September 13 2013 16:35 obesechicken13 wrote: Not really. If you're jungling you try to get to 5 stacks before ganking so you have the most to work with during the gank and possibly an empowered E if needed. You want to auto before each Q to get the auto reset off without wasting a reset by getting an empowered and regular Q W is useful when teamfighting or jungling for the armor/resists, not just the damage, so you space them out to get the armor bonus for longer so you can tank more damage. (Armor and mr do not stack on Rengar) Of course Rengar's bola is an up front slow that gets weaker so you want to throw the second one, not immediately after the first, but you don't necessarily want to wait for the first to wear off before throwing the second one either because the slow becomes almost nothing for the last second making catching up to your opponent more important. If you're jungling you should be playing energy or non-mana champs so you can donate blue without hurting yourself. This is just an advantage some junglers have that is offset by the efficiency of spirit stone. Why the hell does Lee Sin not want to spam skills? #BringBackManaCosts It's hard to play against a good Rengar but it's also hard to play a good Rengar. Instead of making every melee champ easy to counter I'd rather the game just made more melees hard to deal with like Rengar. Yesterday I saw Voyboy (losing team, not fed) 1v1 a Jax as Urgot. That was just dumb. But it's also dumb that Rengar has two abilities with a base of 150 damage. Few other champion has such shitty ability scaling. Empowered strikes are good but they're not as good as any ult in terms of damage. In order to balance Rengar they had to make the base damage on his abilities nearly the lowest in the game for melee assasins because his stealth ganks and resourcelessness were too strong. Similarly Katarina has shitty base damage on her abilities and doesn't use mana, but she needs low base damage otherwise she'd get fed and become an unstoppable pentakill machine much more often. Yea, Rengar is not capable of being balanced. If someone who actually liked Rengar told me what is the "core" of the champion I could design him in a way to make the champ not impossible to balance. But the fact is you have to give him mana and make the passive Annie-like, and change his ultimate to not grant stealth (or if it gives stealth, it should be instant, and be for escape only). | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
On September 13 2013 13:30 Perplex wrote: How can pro players be this delusional? Do they really not see how much stronger S-Tier korean teams are than them? I will literally eat a sock on camera if an NA team takes more than 1 game off of a korean team I doubt it's going to happen but just in case I have it bookmarked. | ||
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