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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
September 13 2013 08:12 GMT
#2641
am i the only one who thinks that all lee sin skins are fucking awesome (including original), except for the muay thai abomination?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
September 13 2013 08:20 GMT
#2642
On September 13 2013 17:04 EquilasH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 13:30 Perplex wrote:
On September 13 2013 08:02 AsnSensation wrote:

"Teams will be afraid to play us" Reginald 2013


How can pro players be this delusional? Do they really not see how much stronger S-Tier korean teams are than them? I will literally eat a sock on camera if an NA team takes more than 1 game off of a korean team


I doubt it's going to happen but just in case I have it bookmarked.


was just about to post this.

MURCIA
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 13 2013 08:29 GMT
#2643
On September 13 2013 17:12 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
am i the only one who thinks that all lee sin skins are fucking awesome (including original), except for the muay thai abomination?


gotta do the sunglasses
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 13 2013 08:30 GMT
#2644
On September 13 2013 17:01 wei2coolman wrote:
I guess I was the only one who thought the tank rengar of s2 was fucking awesome as fuck?


You mean the unstoppable splitpush/backdoor monster that won lane and killed towers faster than an AD Carry while building full tank?

A gold level Rengar player, while Rengar was "good" could do everything that Faker on Zed can do right now and more.
Freeeeeeedom
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 13 2013 08:36 GMT
#2645
lol

rengar reminds me of old eve
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-13 08:39:47
September 13 2013 08:38 GMT
#2646
On September 13 2013 17:30 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 17:01 wei2coolman wrote:
I guess I was the only one who thought the tank rengar of s2 was fucking awesome as fuck?


You mean the unstoppable splitpush/backdoor monster that won lane and killed towers faster than an AD Carry while building full tank?

A gold level Rengar player, while Rengar was "good" could do everything that Faker on Zed can do right now and more.

I don't remember rengar doing that much damage though. Most people built like a bazillion health on him, and splitpush raid boss mode. I just thought it was pretty fun to watch 3 people try and kill him, and didn't even dent him. He personified late game splitpushing without the gimicky teleport shit shen does.

Just imagine the new SV on the old Rengar. Talk about bonkers.
liftlift > tsm
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 13 2013 08:49 GMT
#2647
rengar's in a pretty good place right now
king of the jungle
now if that damn kha'zix wasn't so strong i could be the lion king all day long
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
September 13 2013 08:51 GMT
#2648
jungle khazix so strong
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 13 2013 09:10 GMT
#2649
On September 13 2013 17:38 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 17:30 cLutZ wrote:
On September 13 2013 17:01 wei2coolman wrote:
I guess I was the only one who thought the tank rengar of s2 was fucking awesome as fuck?


You mean the unstoppable splitpush/backdoor monster that won lane and killed towers faster than an AD Carry while building full tank?

A gold level Rengar player, while Rengar was "good" could do everything that Faker on Zed can do right now and more.

I don't remember rengar doing that much damage though. Most people built like a bazillion health on him, and splitpush raid boss mode. I just thought it was pretty fun to watch 3 people try and kill him, and didn't even dent him. He personified late game splitpushing without the gimicky teleport shit shen does.

Just imagine the new SV on the old Rengar. Talk about bonkers.


Hue? Hue?

The old Rengar was crazy. He could backdoor turrets. That is a lot of damage. Like, it would have been fine for him to be that tanky, if his damage was 1/4 of what it was (especially to towers). It would have been fine to have that much damage, if he had to build damage items to do that damage. And it would have been fine for him to have that level of early game lane dominance, if his lategame was like Shaco-level.

Manaless, Sustain, Stealth, High Base Stats. That is basically old Rengar. He was like a manaless Nunu with a short CD on Consume. Heck, I feel like I just gave Riot an Idea for their next champ.
Freeeeeeedom
Wrag
Profile Joined February 2012
France124 Posts
September 13 2013 09:26 GMT
#2650
Any chance we could get a big obvious 'no spoil' thread header in here during worlds? Want to have something safe to read while at work for the next few weeks
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 13 2013 09:37 GMT
#2651
what's with the random change in the youtube player layout ? -_- now it takes 3 clicks instead of 2 to change quality settings.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 13 2013 09:52 GMT
#2652
Google likes randomly changing this for the worse.
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
September 13 2013 09:58 GMT
#2653
On September 13 2013 18:26 Wrag wrote:
Any chance we could get a big obvious 'no spoil' thread header in here during worlds? Want to have something safe to read while at work for the next few weeks


During the event I'm sure we can all use the live report thread and maybe for a day after but a few weeks of not discussing worlds here? not a chance mate.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
September 13 2013 10:30 GMT
#2654
Are there any junglers that play a lot like Amumu? I am currently 12-1 with him but looking for some variation.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
September 13 2013 10:35 GMT
#2655
Sejuani
No I'm never serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
September 13 2013 10:50 GMT
#2656
On September 13 2013 18:26 Wrag wrote:
Any chance we could get a big obvious 'no spoil' thread header in here during worlds? Want to have something safe to read while at work for the next few weeks

Spoilers are pretty heavily looked down upon on TL. Usually GD is safe unless you catch a spoiler before a mod edits it.
Cuddle
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1345 Posts
September 13 2013 10:51 GMT
#2657
On September 13 2013 16:52 cLutZ wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 13 2013 16:35 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 16:11 Amui wrote:
Random thought: Rengar is the only champion in the game who wants to spam every skill he has on cooldown. Even other resourceless champions have to put thought into their gameplan because they don't get rewarded for spamming skills, only for winning trades.

Not really.

If you're jungling you try to get to 5 stacks before ganking so you have the most to work with during the gank and possibly an empowered E if needed.
You want to auto before each Q to get the auto reset off without wasting a reset by getting an empowered and regular Q
W is useful when teamfighting or jungling for the armor/resists, not just the damage, so you space them out to get the armor bonus for longer so you can tank more damage. (Armor and mr do not stack on Rengar)
Of course Rengar's bola is an up front slow that gets weaker so you want to throw the second one, not immediately after the first, but you don't necessarily want to wait for the first to wear off before throwing the second one either because the slow becomes almost nothing for the last second making catching up to your opponent more important.

If you're jungling you should be playing energy or non-mana champs so you can donate blue without hurting yourself. This is just an advantage some junglers have that is offset by the efficiency of spirit stone.
Why the hell does Lee Sin not want to spam skills?

#BringBackManaCosts

It's hard to play against a good Rengar but it's also hard to play a good Rengar. Instead of making every melee champ easy to counter I'd rather the game just made more melees hard to deal with like Rengar. Yesterday I saw Voyboy (losing team, not fed) 1v1 a Jax as Urgot. That was just dumb.

But it's also dumb that Rengar has two abilities with a base of 150 damage. Few other champion has such shitty ability scaling. Empowered strikes are good but they're not as good as any ult in terms of damage. In order to balance Rengar they had to make the base damage on his abilities nearly the lowest in the game for melee assasins because his stealth ganks and resourcelessness were too strong. Similarly Katarina has shitty base damage on her abilities and doesn't use mana, but she needs low base damage otherwise she'd get fed and become an unstoppable pentakill machine much more often.


Yea, Rengar is not capable of being balanced. If someone who actually liked Rengar told me what is the "core" of the champion I could design him in a way to make the champ not impossible to balance. But the fact is you have to give him mana and make the passive Annie-like, and change his ultimate to not grant stealth (or if it gives stealth, it should be instant, and be for escape only).


I play a lot of Rengar and to me, the "boo-factor" is the core of Rengar and the reason why I enjoy him so much. All I want is to be able to win trades or all-ins if I get the jump on someone. I don't need to be able to 2-shot someone (as is currently the case if you get ahead) but I'd like to be confident in my ability to trade/all-in if I can get the jump on people.

That said, I don't mind if the fight goes on for longer than 2 seconds or if they make "getting the jump on someone" harder for Rengar. All I want is for everyone to feel "ohshitohshitohshit" when I come roaring out of a bush/stealth.
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
September 13 2013 11:07 GMT
#2658
Tear takes ridiculously long to refill now. I'm so sad playing Jayce ~_~
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-13 12:13:14
September 13 2013 11:14 GMT
#2659
Yeah, times are something like 9PM-7AM at best for EU during group stages, quarters are 9PM, 5AM, 1AM, 5AM, and semis are 1AM and 9PM, and finals are 5AM, iirc.
So... expect a bunch of us to actually take 2 days (or even more depending on working hours) to catch up with VoDs. ^^'

TL;DR TL recommended polls fighting~

"Hey guys we're glad to know there's nothing wrong with low-budget itemisation and the only concern is AP items yay!"
Zzz...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Wrag
Profile Joined February 2012
France124 Posts
September 13 2013 11:55 GMT
#2660
On September 13 2013 18:58 TheLink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 18:26 Wrag wrote:
Any chance we could get a big obvious 'no spoil' thread header in here during worlds? Want to have something safe to read while at work for the next few weeks


During the event I'm sure we can all use the live report thread and maybe for a day after but a few weeks of not discussing worlds here? not a chance mate.


I don't expect more then not discussing the previous day, as i'll probably be seing 80% of games on the following late afternoon/early evening (as most europeans with office hours schedule will i'd guess). I know about TL's stance on this, didn't stop a few of OGNs games being spoiled in here
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