EPTOn August 03 2013 04:50 TheYango wrote:
Fallout 1/2, Planescape Torment, Baldur's Gate 1/2.
Fallout 1/2, Planescape Torment, Baldur's Gate 1/2.
Arcanum, people often forget about it but I put it with fallout1/2 or baldurs half of fame rpgs
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kongoline
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Arcanum, people often forget about it but I put it with fallout1/2 or baldurs half of fame rpgs | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Teammate 2: I'm smurf so I don't support Teammate 3: I don't own any support champions or runes literally wat | ||
Arekan
United States248 Posts
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Grend
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On August 03 2013 06:27 Capped wrote: Play on any reasonable difficulty without abusing hidden op shit or Mod difficulty at all and you either take the route or die. If you dont do any of those things, you're playing fuckin' carebear mode anyway On a related note, my heavily modded, extremely difficult FO3 playthrough is extremely open-world-ly at all times (unless i find a big deathclaw or a yao guai, then i run like little bitch in big russia.). I love FO:NV, but its small map and heavily "routed" world is extremely limiting in its (long) opening stages imo. Played hardcore (or whatever it is called) and did not do that route. I just went straight to NV. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
I mean, its open world..why pigeon hole like that lol. Maybe im jaded from the hard-mode mods i always put on the games, but FO3 is alot more open world even with them and i recently played both pre-modding for a few hours. You know what, i'll boot it up tomorrow and see what i can do with no-mods very hard, see if i can break the game a piece. I'll label myself wrong if i can go north from the first town and survive. Do love the game though and wish my save files would stop fucking breaking lol. Both games dont feel as alive or enjoyable to me without at least AWOP+MMM mods though, i run light moddings as it is, only a couple extra on top of these but they add so much to the game. Back on topic: Dorans shield is really good, y no buy moar? | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 03 2013 06:40 Capped wrote: I just never liked that NV tried to pigeon hole you in a certain direction and you had to try REALLY hard to break it. You can head anywhere you like by running from stuff but chances of you being able to do anything once you get to whever you're headed are slim. I mean, its open world..why pigeon hole like that lol. Maybe im jaded from the hard-mode mods i always put on the games, but FO3 is alot more open world even with them and i recently played both pre-modding for a few hours. That's actually the thing though. The only reason people have the expectation of an "open world" (and I say that in quotes because the Bethesda idea of "open world" is a total farce compared to the Interplay originals) is because it uses Fallout 3 as the baseline. From the writers/designers who did PS:T and the dev team that did KotOR 2/NWN2, you should expect a somewhat more closed experience. You're judging NV for what you want/expect it to be, not what it is. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 03 2013 06:49 Capped wrote: NV is supposed to be an open world RPG, thats what it is, no? :o A modless experience should mirror that Says who? Obsidian never developed an open world RPG in KotOR 2 or NWN2, and the selling point of their design team are the guys that worked on PS:T. There's no reason to expect NV to be one. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
"In a huge, open world you can explore, choose sides or go it alone, Peacemaker or hard case, house rules or the wild card - its all in how you play the game"  EDIT for "In" Double EDIT: What is with the massive tangents today and yesterday? We're all really on a roll guys lol, Still havent hit costco yet | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 03 2013 06:37 kongoline wrote: Arcanum, people often forget about it but I put it with fallout1/2 or baldurs half of fame rpgs I personally consider it up there, but it's a much more controversial opinion so I leave it out generally when discussing the subject. | ||
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ArchAngelSC
England706 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On August 03 2013 07:03 onlywonderboy wrote: I approve of Yango defending NV. I love NV. So do i  Before i derail this thread more im going to bed, night! | ||
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Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
When you talk to EVERY NPC in the game, not because you HAVE to to figure out the story, but because you WANT to just to read the amazing dialogue, THAT game wins, every time. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On August 03 2013 06:59 ArchAngelSC wrote: Sweet mother of hades, Yi is op Get back off topic! Honestly after the past couple weeks of waking up to 20 pages of discussion at times, not having to read GD when the discussion is irrelevant to my interests is kinda nice. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On August 03 2013 07:09 WaveofShadow wrote: Get back off topic! Honestly after the past couple weeks of waking up to 20 pages of discussion at times, not having to read GD when the discussion is irrelevant to my interests is kinda nice. Dat dedeication. Wave, I am dissapoint. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Much harder to do when I'm in the middle of a mafia game as well. | ||
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UniversalSnip
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On August 03 2013 07:08 Nemireck wrote: You're all wrong. Earthbound is the best RPG ever made. When you talk to EVERY NPC in the game, not because you HAVE to to figure out the story, but because you WANT to just to read the amazing dialogue, THAT game wins, every time. tbh I do that even in games with terrible dialogue. sigh... | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
Dragon Quest gets no love on American shores. DQ8 was such an awesome game, yet the advertising campaign and box art suggested that they were selling the FF12 demo which incidentally included DQ8. | ||
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Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
On August 03 2013 04:17 UniversalSnip wrote: If you really judge a ff according to it's supposedly high story quality or degree of emotional involvement I either assume you played them as a kid and haven't really gotten over your nostalgia, or I dismiss your opinion out of hand. They're the equivalent of those huge fantasy novels that are aimed at people who are at the novice level of understanding storytelling, like wheel of time. It's like you're taking Adam west's batman, stripping it of it's sense of irony and presenting it as the epic tale of batman vs the riddler. That's how bad they are. Wheel of Time, despite being about 5 books too long, was actually a very enjoyable read for me. Jordan definitely got caught up in his own imagination, and it's really a good thing he couldn't finish the story his way, else we'd be waiting for book 20. But as a whole, the story is solid enough, and I didn't come out of it feeling let down (Game of Thrones) or that I had just wasted my time on a large book aimed at children (Looking at you, Sword of Truth). I look at FF games in the same light. No, they aren't full of Pulitzer quality writing, or deep, groundbreaking narrative. But, they ARE good stories (starting with 4 and moving along) that entertain, don't get too caught up in themselves, and for the most part, make you feel a sense of attachment to the characters you control on your journey. Edit: needless shot taken. | ||
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