[Patch 3.09: Spirit Guard Udyr Patch] General Discussion -…

On July 14 2013 19:47 Chexx wrote:

It works with every LoL client. Just need to start the bat file

On July 15 2013 00:31 Nos- wrote:

Can I get instructions on how this thing works?

On July 14 2013 17:26 Inflexion wrote:


There are a number of factors that contribute to when your decision to back is.

1) If you force the guy out of lane

a) you killed him solo (without jungle support) - depending on how much hp you have/what level you are, almost in all cases you want to shove to their tower as soon as possible (using all CDs (except long CD ultimates)/mana). This way, when you return to lane, your opponent will have missed CS AND the lane will either reset or be pushing towards you. If you have low hp (low enough that their jungler can solo you), you must determine where their jungler is. If they are on bot side, away from you, shove as fast as possible and then back. But if you don't know where he is, then just back right after you get the kill (you must get a ward on your return and place it because if your creeps don't reach his tower, then he will be able to freeze on you when he returns to lane).

b) you/jungler gank killed him - ask your jungler to shove the lane with you to the tower, once your own ranged creeps get within tower range, you can back. Also, if you guys shoved really fast, you can proxy to the next wave as long as there is no threat of their jungler/mid roam coming to kill you.

c) harassed him out of lane - this is where you must make a judgement call about backing or not. Basically, it comes down to, if you back after he does, by the time you get back into lane, will the lane be reset or pushing back towards you? Is he able to freeze it? If he backed early enough and you backed but your creeps don't reach his tower, he will get into lane and should freeze it on you. Thus, forcing you to ward AND play on their side of the map. Otherwise, if you warded properly, just shove to the tower. If the jungler comes and is dumb enough to fight you while you are relatively healthy, you will shit on him because you have creep advantage. What should happen is their jungler should go to their tower and farm (aka cover) to protect the tower and just get exp/gold while their laner is backed and not there anyways.

Basically, all the decisions you will be making will be dependent on your warding. If you are able to keep a ward up at all times, you will be able to make the correct decision when to back because you'll know exactly when the jungler is coming.

2) Stalemate lanes
a) if the lane is being farmed in the middle (neutral), then just don't back, eventually, a jungler will come to gank. Just hope that it is yours so after you kill them, both of you can shove to their tower

b) if it is a farm lane, where both of you are shoving and the lanes are pushing back and forth, you just might as well back once you shoved to their tower so when you return to lane the minion wave will be at your tower and he will back. That's how stalemates should work out. You push to his tower, you back. He pushes to your tower, he backs.

This is only generally speaking. There are a lot of factors which go into when to back. The best is probably to watch pro top laners play on their stream (Voyboy, Dyrus, etc). Some champions you can afford to push harder and back once at their tower due to their kit (more escape skills, etc). Or some champions (as long as you ward), don't need to back once you shoved to their tower, as you can continue to harass them under their tower (jayce/kennen/nidalee/etc vs melee). But the most important thing, is to determine where their jungler is. And to do that, you must ward.

On July 15 2013 00:30 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
So I just watched TSM vs CLG from this week and Rivington said "backside" 5 times in 38 minutes

That's once every 7 minutes and 36 seconds

Jesus Christ Riot, replace him with someone who isn't horrible please

On July 15 2013 01:41 kainzero wrote:

I hate how "aggress" became a word.

I've never heard that before watching LoL casts.

On July 15 2013 01:46 Zdrastochye wrote:


I hate people who hate words.

On July 14 2013 18:20 SheaR619 wrote:
I been wondering this a few time and asked my die hard LoL friend but no one can really answer my question regarding why Riot wont add multi unit control to LoL? By multi unit control, I mean the ability to control many more unit such as summons and stuff similar to Dota 2 or starcraft 2. This will allow people to display their ability more and having more freedom to control your ability is always a good thing I think. It also gives Riot the opportunity to be more creative with their heroes by being able to control minion and other units rather than being limited to only 1 champion. I understand that there are hero like Annie but the control on Tibers is very limited. Dota 2 can copy every single one of LoL champion but LoL can not copy every single one of Dota 2 ability due to the lack of Multi Unit control. I mean can you even imagine a hero such as Meepo being made in LoL? It probably been discussed before but I am just wondering why Riot does not implement this.


Negative:
I dont see any negative on this the fact that some ability might have to be re-tweak to balance out the ability to manual control your unit but it only increase the skill cap of the game but not by much since your only going to be microing not too many unit.
Might turn away new comer? maybe?

On July 15 2013 01:41 kainzero wrote:

I hate how "aggress" became a word.

I've never heard that before watching LoL casts.

On July 15 2013 02:33 gtrsrs wrote:
i feel like that's not a real article, lol

On July 15 2013 00:41 ticklishmusic wrote:


A bit late, but you also have to consider that when the enemy backs what he might buy.

Yes you might have pushed him out of lane, gotten a 1 level advantage and denied him a wave of creeps, but if he backs and buys a brutalizer and you stay, the 500 gold advantage sitting in your bank isn't going to help.

A guy on my ranked team highly advocates that if you shove the enemy top out, you immediately go and 3 man mid with your jungler. Seems to work well for him.

On July 15 2013 00:33 Potatisodlaren wrote:


Click on the green button to the right of a game you want to watch. Then download the file and launch it normally. For me for some reason my browser adds a .html after the .bat part, so in order to launch the file I have to rename it and remove the .html part.