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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 10:26:06
July 14 2013 10:25 GMT
#1401
i wanna see his rage and knees on chair
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 10:34:38
July 14 2013 10:27 GMT
#1402
this site is beast though, thanks. I don't think I'm gonna get around to installing korean client but would be sweet if I did.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 14 2013 10:27 GMT
#1403
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1i7sg5/high_elo_korean_gp_guide/
man this gp guide made me want to play him again, pretty sad i refunded him after i lost all his hope for this champion, can somebody tell if his build actually works so i can decide if i should buy him again LOL
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
July 14 2013 10:47 GMT
#1404
On July 14 2013 19:27 UniversalSnip wrote:
this site is beast though, thanks. I don't think I'm gonna get around to installing korean client but would be sweet if I did.

It works with every LoL client. Just need to start the bat file
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 14 2013 10:47 GMT
#1405
Has anyone tried redpot start as a jungler?
just remembered back in s2 when trynd jungle was pretty good with green or red pot start.
liftlift > tsm
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 11:06:43
July 14 2013 11:05 GMT
#1406
On July 14 2013 18:24 wussleeQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 18:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 14 2013 18:06 wussleeQ wrote:
BOTRK Hydra on khaz is amazing. The two items really have a lot of synergy together for any sort of character that can roam well and gives amazing wave clear. Just putting this out there

Why BotRK on khaziks?
Hydra I can understand; since they took a lot of his insta waveclear; but botrk?

botrk gives attackspeed to make hydra clear even faster (this is actually really huge imo), gives him some extra burst and also helps in ganks while he roams. basically, does borkt things. he'll have tons of lifesteal which comes more into play as he autos more frequently as well. also, the attack speed goes incredibly well when splitpushing. you take down towers extremely quickly while also clearing waves insanely fast

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On July 14 2013 18:16 yamato77 wrote:
On July 14 2013 18:06 wussleeQ wrote:
BOTRK Hydra on khaz is amazing. The two items really have a lot of synergy together for any sort of character that can roam well and gives amazing wave clear. Just putting this out there

Those items would be better suited for Lee Sin, with his passive-enhanced autos and low waveclear than Kha, who already has waveclear with evolved W and rarely autoattacks.

honestly, feel like W sucks. QER evolutions with R-Q-E-W skilling are much better especially with this playstyle and nerfs on manamune


Is maxing Q better than maxing W?
Levelling Q doesn't lower the cooldown (and the damage/level is roughly the same), so wouldn't levelling W first be better for the increased heal?
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Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
July 14 2013 11:12 GMT
#1407
question: new Maw of Mal is pretty awesome, right? Hexdrinker has always been pretty boss...
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 14 2013 11:29 GMT
#1408
On July 14 2013 20:12 Complete wrote:
question: new Maw of Mal is pretty awesome, right? Hexdrinker has always been pretty boss...

The item itself is pretty mediocre; but it's a nice buy when you're done with everything else.
liftlift > tsm
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 13:32:20
July 14 2013 12:37 GMT
#1409
On July 14 2013 20:05 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 18:24 wussleeQ wrote:
On July 14 2013 18:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 14 2013 18:06 wussleeQ wrote:
BOTRK Hydra on khaz is amazing. The two items really have a lot of synergy together for any sort of character that can roam well and gives amazing wave clear. Just putting this out there

Why BotRK on khaziks?
Hydra I can understand; since they took a lot of his insta waveclear; but botrk?

botrk gives attackspeed to make hydra clear even faster (this is actually really huge imo), gives him some extra burst and also helps in ganks while he roams. basically, does borkt things. he'll have tons of lifesteal which comes more into play as he autos more frequently as well. also, the attack speed goes incredibly well when splitpushing. you take down towers extremely quickly while also clearing waves insanely fast

On July 14 2013 18:16 yamato77 wrote:
On July 14 2013 18:06 wussleeQ wrote:
BOTRK Hydra on khaz is amazing. The two items really have a lot of synergy together for any sort of character that can roam well and gives amazing wave clear. Just putting this out there

Those items would be better suited for Lee Sin, with his passive-enhanced autos and low waveclear than Kha, who already has waveclear with evolved W and rarely autoattacks.

honestly, feel like W sucks. QER evolutions with R-Q-E-W skilling are much better especially with this playstyle and nerfs on manamune


Is maxing Q better than maxing W?
Levelling Q doesn't lower the cooldown (and the damage/level is roughly the same), so wouldn't levelling W first be better for the increased heal?

The damage/level of isolated Q is higher than W.

EDIT : just played with Teutonica on EU, but he won't accept my friend invite. I'm emo
The legend of Darien lives on
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
July 14 2013 13:46 GMT
#1410
On July 14 2013 20:29 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 20:12 Complete wrote:
question: new Maw of Mal is pretty awesome, right? Hexdrinker has always been pretty boss...

The item itself is pretty mediocre; but it's a nice buy when you're done with everything else.

It's a bit less cost-inefficient now, but it's still cost-mediocre, slot efficient.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 14 2013 14:11 GMT
#1411
Man that gangplank guide makes me want to main GP for a few years and just farm all day

Seriously the best part about this game is farming perfectly
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
July 14 2013 14:22 GMT
#1412
On July 14 2013 23:11 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Man that gangplank guide makes me want to main GP for a few years and just farm all day

Seriously the best part about this game is farming perfectly

Well it's not exactly a challenge with GP, given he got a ranged nuke created for this + high base AD with his E + an auto attack reset with Q :p
The legend of Darien lives on
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
July 14 2013 14:40 GMT
#1413
Nami 51% win rate in Ranked, 55% in Normals '-'
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
July 14 2013 14:46 GMT
#1414
yep too bad gangplank even with twice the gold is completely shit ... I've played enough of him to know that -_-
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 14 2013 14:52 GMT
#1415
On July 14 2013 23:22 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 23:11 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Man that gangplank guide makes me want to main GP for a few years and just farm all day

Seriously the best part about this game is farming perfectly

Well it's not exactly a challenge with GP, given he got a ranged nuke created for this + high base AD with his E + an auto attack reset with Q :p

Well he lacks a pretty crucial part of farming well - waveclear

However if you go for tiamat you can get some sick gold with your Q if you manage minion hp properly
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
July 14 2013 14:59 GMT
#1416
O_O I've been building Shiv on GP forever, and I never noticed that... that means you can effectively gain mana with Parley XD
Trust in Bayes.
Deleted User 45971
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
533 Posts
July 14 2013 15:04 GMT
#1417
On July 14 2013 19:21 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 19:09 UniversalSnip wrote:
hotshot plz start streaming again i miss u

http://op.gg/progamer/pro/ check this out


Unfortunately for me this broke after last patch. Could watch before but now the game loads to 100% and then the client just crashes
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 14 2013 15:05 GMT
#1418
was about to say the same, clients always crashing after finished loading to 100%
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
July 14 2013 15:13 GMT
#1419
maybe because korean server is still on the old patch...
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 14 2013 15:30 GMT
#1420
So I just watched TSM vs CLG from this week and Rivington said "backside" 5 times in 38 minutes

That's once every 7 minutes and 36 seconds

Jesus Christ Riot, replace him with someone who isn't horrible please
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
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