EPT[Patch 3.09: Spirit Guard Udyr Patch] General Discussion -…
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Maybe you disagree that Jayce is there, but I think that's where Riot is coming from. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 14 2013 05:34 AsmodeusXI wrote: Need more reasons to max Tiger with SGU coming out. Red pot start is so silly on tiger level 1 udyr; he 2 shots any champion. He can pretty much solo invade and guarantee at least 2 kills. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On July 14 2013 05:36 Ketara wrote: Diversity is good, but there's a point where something becomes SO diverse that it's bad, s'what I'm saying. Maybe you disagree that Jayce is there, but I think that's where Riot is coming from. But that's like 1 champion out of >100.I just don't see how can this be a bad thing. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On July 14 2013 05:35 nafta wrote: How can having diversity be a bad thing?League is such a simple and straightup game unless you get to high level for real. Jayce changes aren't about diversity, they're about a champion having literally everything in his kit. Note that the transform damage-on-next-hit is still there (moved to passive) but the huge armor shred is being removed (meaning you'll get the on next hit damage switching to ranged form too.) 30%+ armor shred is KINDOF a lot, especially when the champion also has a huge amount of physical burst, likes to build last whisper and brutalizer. Double especially when it's in his "pretend I'm a decked out ranged carry for a bit" mode. I mean he's not even getting shoved into the same cookie cutter mold that is 'standard' - he's going for a mold that isn't used by anyone else so that he can have his diverse transform-based kit (which isnt like the other two transforming champions, really) So what is jayce REALLY losing here? He's losing his armor shred, he's losing +40 movespeed for a tiny period when he preses R, and he's getting a pile of number tweaks. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
From the standpoint of balance, there simply hasn't been enough time since this current patch for Riot to already be mapping out Jayce nerfs because this patch already made several changes with significant effects on his power level. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
As a criticism of Riot's quickfire balance approach though, I agree with you. Riot is often too quick to make a change instead of letting one nerf play out (we haven't even SEEN the jayce changes affect the pro level and they're already applying another pile of changes?) before examining for further nerfs. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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UniversalSnip
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On July 14 2013 05:53 UniversalSnip wrote: ketara is full of it on this one. i read through what xypherous said and that's not a major factor at all. Then maybe I'm full of it. I just want you guys to stop bitching at Riot, TL pls T_T | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 14 2013 05:55 Ketara wrote: That's fair Yango, but I think Syndra/Udyr/etc probably work the way Riot wants them to, and Jayce probably does not. That's the difference. I think it's a shame that has to be the defining factor, because some of the best gameplay in games comes from things that don't work as designed, or were not designed for a particular use case. | ||
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ArchAngelSC
England706 Posts
On July 14 2013 05:33 wei2coolman wrote: Man; trick2g's tigerdyr opening is so stupidly op'd explain please? :D I like op stuff | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
I understand why they do it, it's good business! The pros and us TLers will grumble that the meta can't settle but most people just want to play such that Jayce isn't one shotting them from the fog of war. Plus it keeps their game shiny. Still though. Slower patch cycles. Riot plz | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On July 14 2013 05:32 NeoIllusions wrote: l0l wot? I have nothing against the game. I don't even think it's negative, is it? I picked it from Yango, so please direct blame towards him. Thank you. The joke was you respect it so little you don't even call it by it's real name. But I'm with you on this one, let's just blame Yango. On July 14 2013 06:12 JonGalt wrote: I just want Riot to have like 1 year where they slow down their patch cycles. I understand why they do it, it's good business! The pros and us TLers will grumble that the meta can't settle but most people just want to play such that Jayce isn't one shotting them from the fog of war. Plus it keeps their game shiny. Still though. Slower patch cycles. Riot plz They did. It's down to around one a month instead of every two weeks. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On July 14 2013 06:12 JonGalt wrote: I just want Riot to have like 1 year where they slow down their patch cycles. I understand why they do it, it's good business! The pros and us TLers will grumble that the meta can't settle but most people just want to play such that Jayce isn't one shotting them from the fog of war. Plus it keeps their game shiny. Still though. Slower patch cycles. Riot plz They have slowed down their patch cycles. Think about how long it's been since the last one. @OWB: But nobody actually answered my question  | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9137 Posts
Wolves were playing against Eternity and during a pause Pheilox (from TCM, former Fnatic support) gave information about Eternity's map position to Wolves for some reason. People saw it happening on the stream and it all ended up with TCM withdrawing from the tournament and kicking Pheilox from the team. Article Pheilox apology | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On July 14 2013 06:15 WaveofShadow wrote: They have slowed down their patch cycles. Think about how long it's been since the last one. @OWB: But nobody actually answered my question Oh, I have no idea. I think it's just because it sounds silly. I'm not familiar with the origin. | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
@Ketara, I really like the buff transfer idea and I'd love it if some higher level players put it to use! It seems that it's been effective at lower levels - anyone higher up wanna give it a try? | ||
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