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On July 13 2013 13:27 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 12:57 Requizen wrote:On July 13 2013 12:54 onlywonderboy wrote:On July 13 2013 12:53 Requizen wrote:On July 13 2013 12:41 onlywonderboy wrote:On July 13 2013 12:23 ticklishmusic wrote:It's part of Riot's plan to make League look a little more like DOTA. I think they look better. League has some ugly item art. Edit: Also saw the tweaks to Turret armor, guess that's how they plan to "fix" the 2v1 situation. And Spellbreaker as "Melee Only" is interesting. Would probably be too strong on ranged champs, but who would build Spellbreaker instead of Maw? Sure it's more MR, but crit on it is awkward, just like it is on Atma's. Although Tenacity is nice. GP/Yi It's a very exclusive club. Fiora? Trynd/Shaco for sure, maybe Rengar or Talon. Garen actually would like crit over AD. I figure Rango would still just prefer Maw. That said I'd say the item in it's current state sounds pretty niche.
I would REALLY like Spellbreaker on mid lane Quinn.
Depends on what parts of the item are "Melee only." If it's only the Tenacity then mid Quinn probably still likes it, if it's the Lifeline passive to then ehhhhhh.
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I just assumed those items were for Dominion/TT/ARAM.
But I guess Riot is dumber than I thought.
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On July 13 2013 14:58 AleKSei23 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 14:34 justiceknight wrote: after reading jayce in PBE they might as well delete that hero or rework muramana... If they go ahead with the proposed changes i will demand a fucking full refund and the debonair skin, they cant just do that kind of work, it disrespects people, especially since the changes are aimed at pro teams not at the general population :s
it isnt disrespectful to balance the game
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On July 13 2013 12:41 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 12:23 ticklishmusic wrote:It's part of Riot's plan to make League look a little more like DOTA. I think they look better. League has some ugly item art. Edit: Also saw the tweaks to Turret armor, guess that's how they plan to "fix" the 2v1 situation. And Spellbreaker as "Melee Only" is interesting. Would probably be too strong on ranged champs, but who would build Spellbreaker instead of Maw? Sure it's more MR, but crit on it is awkward, just like it is on Atma's. Although Tenacity is nice. gonna be honest, i knew what glacial cata, thornmail, and vamp sceptre were, the others i thought were new items or something.
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i thought thornmail was cloth armor, dfg was viktors staff and glacial was dorans shield lol
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On July 13 2013 15:41 wussleeQ wrote: i thought thornmail was cloth armor, dfg was viktors staff and glacial was dorans shield lol thornmail was iffy but i figured thats waht it was. dfg doesnt even look close to what it did before tho. lolol
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On July 13 2013 15:16 Infundibulum wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 14:58 AleKSei23 wrote:On July 13 2013 14:34 justiceknight wrote: after reading jayce in PBE they might as well delete that hero or rework muramana... If they go ahead with the proposed changes i will demand a fucking full refund and the debonair skin, they cant just do that kind of work, it disrespects people, especially since the changes are aimed at pro teams not at the general population :s it isnt disrespectful to balance the game
It is if they balance to the top .01% of the population ignoring the rest, the same happened to olaf and look where he is now, none plays him anymore.
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On July 13 2013 15:46 AleKSei23 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 15:16 Infundibulum wrote:On July 13 2013 14:58 AleKSei23 wrote:On July 13 2013 14:34 justiceknight wrote: after reading jayce in PBE they might as well delete that hero or rework muramana... If they go ahead with the proposed changes i will demand a fucking full refund and the debonair skin, they cant just do that kind of work, it disrespects people, especially since the changes are aimed at pro teams not at the general population :s it isnt disrespectful to balance the game It is if they balance to the top .01% of the population ignoring the rest, the same happened to olaf and look where he is now, none plays him anymore.
Ok they disrespected you. What're you gonna do about it? Quit if it hurts your feelings so much.
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On July 13 2013 15:46 AleKSei23 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 15:16 Infundibulum wrote:On July 13 2013 14:58 AleKSei23 wrote:On July 13 2013 14:34 justiceknight wrote: after reading jayce in PBE they might as well delete that hero or rework muramana... If they go ahead with the proposed changes i will demand a fucking full refund and the debonair skin, they cant just do that kind of work, it disrespects people, especially since the changes are aimed at pro teams not at the general population :s it isnt disrespectful to balance the game It is if they balance to the top .01% of the population ignoring the rest, the same happened to olaf and look where he is now, none plays him anymore. And they're giving Olaf a minor rework to make him not suck (looks pretty good actually). Sorry, but pretty much EVERYONE except jayce players has had their jayce hate levels sitting up near teemo for a while now.
I actually agree with the 'rework muramana' comment though. Tear, Muramana, and Seraph are all broken as fuck right now. For most Mana-based AD characters, tear alone is enough to turn you into a manaless champion, except for the part where, after totally ignoring your mana bar for 20 minutes, you are suddenly REWARDED for happening to have a blue bar on your character.
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I think League is becoming more and like basketball. The fact that compositions and what each team throws out becoming more important than gold totals.
Support = Point Guard ADC = Shooting Guard Jungler = Center Power Forward = Top Small Forward = Mid
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On July 13 2013 15:50 sylverfyre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 15:46 AleKSei23 wrote:On July 13 2013 15:16 Infundibulum wrote:On July 13 2013 14:58 AleKSei23 wrote:On July 13 2013 14:34 justiceknight wrote: after reading jayce in PBE they might as well delete that hero or rework muramana... If they go ahead with the proposed changes i will demand a fucking full refund and the debonair skin, they cant just do that kind of work, it disrespects people, especially since the changes are aimed at pro teams not at the general population :s it isnt disrespectful to balance the game It is if they balance to the top .01% of the population ignoring the rest, the same happened to olaf and look where he is now, none plays him anymore. And they're giving Olaf a minor rework to make him not suck (looks pretty good actually). Sorry, but pretty much EVERYONE except jayce players has had their jayce hate levels sitting up near teemo for a while now.
I don't think teemo hate levels are even very high, that whole thing is just a holdover from early days of league imo. Yorick is the gold standard.
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On July 13 2013 15:51 Fionn wrote: I think League is becoming more and like basketball. The fact that compositions and what each team throws out becoming more important than gold totals.
Support = Point Guard ADC = Shooting Guard Jungler = Center Power Forward = Top Small Forward = Mid http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1cgmtw/map_awareness_hero_roles_and_positioning/
Not LoL, but relevant. Particularly since he drew roughly equivalent conclusions.
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On July 13 2013 15:51 Fionn wrote: I think League is becoming more and like basketball. The fact that compositions and what each team throws out becoming more important than gold totals.
Support = Point Guard ADC = Shooting Guard Jungler = Center Power Forward = Top Small Forward = Mid
i made a thread about this like a year ago, riot still hasn't implemented the skins i wanted GG
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/A3tC7b9.jpg)
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2149183
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On July 13 2013 15:58 UniversalSnip wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 15:50 sylverfyre wrote:On July 13 2013 15:46 AleKSei23 wrote:On July 13 2013 15:16 Infundibulum wrote:On July 13 2013 14:58 AleKSei23 wrote:On July 13 2013 14:34 justiceknight wrote: after reading jayce in PBE they might as well delete that hero or rework muramana... If they go ahead with the proposed changes i will demand a fucking full refund and the debonair skin, they cant just do that kind of work, it disrespects people, especially since the changes are aimed at pro teams not at the general population :s it isnt disrespectful to balance the game It is if they balance to the top .01% of the population ignoring the rest, the same happened to olaf and look where he is now, none plays him anymore. And they're giving Olaf a minor rework to make him not suck (looks pretty good actually). Sorry, but pretty much EVERYONE except jayce players has had their jayce hate levels sitting up near teemo for a while now. I don't think teemo hate levels are even very high, that whole thing is just a holdover from early days of league imo. Yorick is the gold standard. The teemo hate is so much more than just playing against him. It's his walk, his laugh, his shrooms. Everything about teemo is just so hateable
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On July 13 2013 15:50 sylverfyre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 15:46 AleKSei23 wrote:On July 13 2013 15:16 Infundibulum wrote:On July 13 2013 14:58 AleKSei23 wrote:On July 13 2013 14:34 justiceknight wrote: after reading jayce in PBE they might as well delete that hero or rework muramana... If they go ahead with the proposed changes i will demand a fucking full refund and the debonair skin, they cant just do that kind of work, it disrespects people, especially since the changes are aimed at pro teams not at the general population :s it isnt disrespectful to balance the game It is if they balance to the top .01% of the population ignoring the rest, the same happened to olaf and look where he is now, none plays him anymore. And they're giving Olaf a minor rework to make him not suck (looks pretty good actually). Sorry, but pretty much EVERYONE except jayce players has had their jayce hate levels sitting up near teemo for a while now. I actually agree with the 'rework muramana' comment though. Tear, Muramana, and Seraph are all broken as fuck right now. For most Mana-based AD characters, tear alone is enough to turn you into a manaless champion, except for the part where, after totally ignoring your mana bar for 20 minutes, you are suddenly REWARDED for happening to have a blue bar on your character.
Yea. The Olaf "rework" is not a rework. It is a mechanical nerf to all silver 1+ players, with an ult normalization (cooldown changes + no mana, like a champ released now would have). Its gonna piss people off more than the Karma rework, moreso because people actually liked S2 Olaf.
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On July 13 2013 15:46 AleKSei23 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 15:16 Infundibulum wrote:On July 13 2013 14:58 AleKSei23 wrote:On July 13 2013 14:34 justiceknight wrote: after reading jayce in PBE they might as well delete that hero or rework muramana... If they go ahead with the proposed changes i will demand a fucking full refund and the debonair skin, they cant just do that kind of work, it disrespects people, especially since the changes are aimed at pro teams not at the general population :s it isnt disrespectful to balance the game It is if they balance to the top .01% of the population ignoring the rest, the same happened to olaf and look where he is now, none plays him anymore.
Everyone has had champions they have bought get nerfed at some point. This isn't the end of Jayce, even if he falls hard in power to where he is horrible riot will again try to balance him again to viability. Riot doesn't want to "kill" champions (at least not forever) so be patient, and play other champs if he ends up sucking hard
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On July 13 2013 12:24 Dusty wrote: HAHAHA THOSE JAYCE NERFS
Good night sweet prince, holy fucking shit he's going to be so fucking bad if Riot doesn't remove 90% of these changes. He's going to be Olaf/Sion tier if they don't holy shit. Does anyone at riot actually play Jayce?
Regardless, glad I switched roles before they gutted my favorite champion. Don't be hating on Sion. He's still a fun AP mid...and a hilarious AD carry in 3v3
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On July 13 2013 16:21 MattBarry wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 12:24 Dusty wrote: HAHAHA THOSE JAYCE NERFS
Good night sweet prince, holy fucking shit he's going to be so fucking bad if Riot doesn't remove 90% of these changes. He's going to be Olaf/Sion tier if they don't holy shit. Does anyone at riot actually play Jayce?
Regardless, glad I switched roles before they gutted my favorite champion. Don't be hating on Sion. He's still a fun AP mid...and a hilarious AD carry in 3v3 Until the rework that gets rid of AP Sion hue.
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