• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:20
CEST 15:20
KST 22:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy0GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding0Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2)
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage ASL21 General Discussion so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro24 Group E
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Korean words The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Loot Boxes—Emotions, And Why…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1455 users

[Patch 3.09: Spirit Guard Udyr Patch] General Discussion -…

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 54 55 56 57 58 339 Next
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 03:46:05
July 13 2013 03:41 GMT
#1101
On July 13 2013 12:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 12:20 Requizen wrote:
Why do icons need new darkgritty realism?

[image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]


It's part of Riot's plan to make League look a little more like DOTA.

I think they look better. League has some ugly item art.

Edit: Also saw the tweaks to Turret armor, guess that's how they plan to "fix" the 2v1 situation. And Spellbreaker as "Melee Only" is interesting. Would probably be too strong on ranged champs, but who would build Spellbreaker instead of Maw? Sure it's more MR, but crit on it is awkward, just like it is on Atma's. Although Tenacity is nice.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
July 13 2013 03:48 GMT
#1102
On July 13 2013 12:41 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 12:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
On July 13 2013 12:20 Requizen wrote:
Why do icons need new darkgritty realism?

[image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]


It's part of Riot's plan to make League look a little more like DOTA.

I think they look better. League has some ugly item art.

Edit: Also saw the tweaks to Turret armor, guess that's how they plan to "fix" the 2v1 situation. And Spellbreaker as "Melee Only" is interesting. Would probably be too strong on ranged champs, but who would build Spellbreaker instead of Maw? Sure it's more MR, but crit on it is awkward, just like it is on Atma's. Although Tenacity is nice.


I like the art too.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 13 2013 03:53 GMT
#1103
On July 13 2013 12:41 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 12:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
On July 13 2013 12:20 Requizen wrote:
Why do icons need new darkgritty realism?

[image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]


It's part of Riot's plan to make League look a little more like DOTA.

I think they look better. League has some ugly item art.

Edit: Also saw the tweaks to Turret armor, guess that's how they plan to "fix" the 2v1 situation. And Spellbreaker as "Melee Only" is interesting. Would probably be too strong on ranged champs, but who would build Spellbreaker instead of Maw? Sure it's more MR, but crit on it is awkward, just like it is on Atma's. Although Tenacity is nice.

GP/Yi
It's your boy Guzma!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
July 13 2013 03:53 GMT
#1104
It's not about how good they look, it's about how well it fits in with the rest of the art, and I think the new art would be a terrible fit.
TranslatorBaa!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 13 2013 03:54 GMT
#1105
On July 13 2013 12:53 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 12:41 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 13 2013 12:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
On July 13 2013 12:20 Requizen wrote:
Why do icons need new darkgritty realism?

[image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]


It's part of Riot's plan to make League look a little more like DOTA.

I think they look better. League has some ugly item art.

Edit: Also saw the tweaks to Turret armor, guess that's how they plan to "fix" the 2v1 situation. And Spellbreaker as "Melee Only" is interesting. Would probably be too strong on ranged champs, but who would build Spellbreaker instead of Maw? Sure it's more MR, but crit on it is awkward, just like it is on Atma's. Although Tenacity is nice.

GP/Yi

It's a very exclusive club.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
July 13 2013 03:55 GMT
#1106
On July 13 2013 12:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
It's not about how good they look, it's about how well it fits in with the rest of the art, and I think the new art would be a terrible fit.


Not if they eventually do ALL the items.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 13 2013 03:57 GMT
#1107
On July 13 2013 12:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 12:53 Requizen wrote:
On July 13 2013 12:41 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 13 2013 12:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
On July 13 2013 12:20 Requizen wrote:
Why do icons need new darkgritty realism?

[image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]


It's part of Riot's plan to make League look a little more like DOTA.

I think they look better. League has some ugly item art.

Edit: Also saw the tweaks to Turret armor, guess that's how they plan to "fix" the 2v1 situation. And Spellbreaker as "Melee Only" is interesting. Would probably be too strong on ranged champs, but who would build Spellbreaker instead of Maw? Sure it's more MR, but crit on it is awkward, just like it is on Atma's. Although Tenacity is nice.

GP/Yi

It's a very exclusive club.

Fiora?

Trynd/Shaco for sure, maybe Rengar or Talon. Garen actually would like crit over AD.
It's your boy Guzma!
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
July 13 2013 03:59 GMT
#1108
good riddance, jayce.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12702 Posts
July 13 2013 04:02 GMT
#1109
On July 13 2013 12:31 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 12:21 ETisME wrote:
can someone give me some advice?
I am almost level 30 and sometimes normal queue pairs me up with silver/gold rank players.
I play all my games with my GF who isn't terrible but must play with me on a lane, so we usually go bot.
would have been fine if she sticks with using sona, but she is starting to use annie and karma bot and so I need to give her some cs. (no cs was what she most disliked about support)
I bought rengar thinking I can make use of the support for killing their adc but it seems not working at all

I am not sure if that's my problem (rengar is still very new to me) or this lane is just horrible for rengar because support can ward the bush
should I just get another champion instead? maybe elise because she is flexible?

I don't know. Rengar's an ok champ. I wouldn't say he's the best to start with but he's ok. I think he might work well with Annie. Generally when people do a different comp bot they try to get lots of kills and both Rengar and Annie are decent at getting kills.
Most bot lanes are AD carry(ranger) and Support but since you guys aren't playing meta that doesn't matter. Your opponents won't be playing something vastly superior.

thanks then I will just work on me and my gf skill first before doing anything else haha
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 13 2013 04:03 GMT
#1110
On July 13 2013 12:59 Infundibulum wrote:
good riddance, jayce.


Sadly, no welcome back to Olaf,
Freeeeeeedom
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
July 13 2013 04:16 GMT
#1111
On July 13 2013 13:03 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 12:59 Infundibulum wrote:
good riddance, jayce.


Sadly, no welcome back to Olaf,

Maybe, I mean he is getting at max 49% increased healing with his w up. That's with the

Attack damage: 7 / 14 / 21 / 28 / 35 (+1% of maximum health)
Life Steal / Spell Vamp: 9 / 12 / 15 / 18 / 21%

I think he's going to be a lot like aatrox with how his hp is going to bounce around.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 13 2013 04:25 GMT
#1112
On July 13 2013 12:48 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 12:41 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 13 2013 12:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
On July 13 2013 12:20 Requizen wrote:
Why do icons need new darkgritty realism?

[image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]


It's part of Riot's plan to make League look a little more like DOTA.

I think they look better. League has some ugly item art.

Edit: Also saw the tweaks to Turret armor, guess that's how they plan to "fix" the 2v1 situation. And Spellbreaker as "Melee Only" is interesting. Would probably be too strong on ranged champs, but who would build Spellbreaker instead of Maw? Sure it's more MR, but crit on it is awkward, just like it is on Atma's. Although Tenacity is nice.


I like the art too.

Also, it removes skulls from some of the items so CN can have the same icons as the rest of the world.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 13 2013 04:26 GMT
#1113
On July 13 2013 12:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 12:20 Requizen wrote:
Why do icons need new darkgritty realism?

[image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]


It's part of Riot's plan to make League look a little more like DOTA.

They don't really fit in line with Riot's current champions or minion designs.

They'd need a massive remodel of the maps and champions to make them look less cartoony and more like this.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 13 2013 04:27 GMT
#1114
On July 13 2013 12:57 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 12:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 13 2013 12:53 Requizen wrote:
On July 13 2013 12:41 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 13 2013 12:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
On July 13 2013 12:20 Requizen wrote:
Why do icons need new darkgritty realism?

[image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]


It's part of Riot's plan to make League look a little more like DOTA.

I think they look better. League has some ugly item art.

Edit: Also saw the tweaks to Turret armor, guess that's how they plan to "fix" the 2v1 situation. And Spellbreaker as "Melee Only" is interesting. Would probably be too strong on ranged champs, but who would build Spellbreaker instead of Maw? Sure it's more MR, but crit on it is awkward, just like it is on Atma's. Although Tenacity is nice.

GP/Yi

It's a very exclusive club.

Fiora?

Trynd/Shaco for sure, maybe Rengar or Talon. Garen actually would like crit over AD.

I figure Rango would still just prefer Maw. That said I'd say the item in it's current state sounds pretty niche.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 13 2013 04:32 GMT
#1115
On July 13 2013 13:16 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 13:03 cLutZ wrote:
On July 13 2013 12:59 Infundibulum wrote:
good riddance, jayce.


Sadly, no welcome back to Olaf,

Maybe, I mean he is getting at max 49% increased healing with his w up. That's with the

Attack damage: 7 / 14 / 21 / 28 / 35 (+1% of maximum health)
Life Steal / Spell Vamp: 9 / 12 / 15 / 18 / 21%

I think he's going to be a lot like aatrox with how his hp is going to bounce around.


What I think is the problem is that, honestly, I feel like he is basically going to be Jax/Irelia tier. And that is fine, because he is a lot like those champions, and I like those champions. The problem is that Riot has basically implicitly said, that they prefer the Zed/Khazix/Renekton (and to a lesser extent Darius/Garen, even though they arent great right now) model of AD skills with long cooldowns/burst instead of sustained damage and low cooldowns.
Freeeeeeedom
nanospartan
Profile Joined July 2011
649 Posts
July 13 2013 04:47 GMT
#1116
Uhhgh, i dont know what to do as pantheon when your behind, went hexdrinker->boots 1->LW, v elise (+heavy mao supp) and just didnt know what to do, ended up getting a vamp, giants belt, then warmogs.
I was an athiest until I watched the Day[9] daily
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 13 2013 04:53 GMT
#1117
On July 13 2013 13:47 nanospartan wrote:
Uhhgh, i dont know what to do as pantheon when your behind, went hexdrinker->boots 1->LW, v elise (+heavy mao supp) and just didnt know what to do, ended up getting a vamp, giants belt, then warmogs.

Abuse your global ulti and pray that you can snowball the other lanes? Probably your best bet.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 13 2013 05:16 GMT
#1118
On July 13 2013 13:25 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 12:48 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On July 13 2013 12:41 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 13 2013 12:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
On July 13 2013 12:20 Requizen wrote:
Why do icons need new darkgritty realism?

[image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]


It's part of Riot's plan to make League look a little more like DOTA.

I think they look better. League has some ugly item art.

Edit: Also saw the tweaks to Turret armor, guess that's how they plan to "fix" the 2v1 situation. And Spellbreaker as "Melee Only" is interesting. Would probably be too strong on ranged champs, but who would build Spellbreaker instead of Maw? Sure it's more MR, but crit on it is awkward, just like it is on Atma's. Although Tenacity is nice.


I like the art too.

Also, it removes skulls from some of the items so CN can have the same icons as the rest of the world.

Well, I don't know if they'd want to go in that direction with the art design then, because one of the major criticisms leveled at DotA 2 in China is how the art style doesn't fit Asian style preferences very weill (outside of a few heroes).
Moderator
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
July 13 2013 05:34 GMT
#1119
after reading jayce in PBE they might as well delete that hero or rework muramana...
AleKSei23
Profile Joined February 2007
Mexico75 Posts
July 13 2013 05:58 GMT
#1120
On July 13 2013 14:34 justiceknight wrote:
after reading jayce in PBE they might as well delete that hero or rework muramana...


If they go ahead with the proposed changes i will demand a fucking full refund and the debonair skin, they cant just do that kind of work, it disrespects people, especially since the changes are aimed at pro teams not at the general population :s
Prev 1 54 55 56 57 58 339 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
#4
RotterdaM680
TKL 282
IndyStarCraft 155
SteadfastSC148
Rex115
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 680
TKL 282
Lowko254
IndyStarCraft 155
SteadfastSC 148
ProTech121
Rex 115
Codebar 83
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5843
Bisu 3325
Jaedong 1856
Horang2 1404
Shuttle 840
Hyuk 606
Larva 522
Soma 499
Mini 438
Stork 394
[ Show more ]
actioN 313
Rush 296
Light 279
Snow 261
ggaemo 224
EffOrt 208
Aegong 198
ZerO 168
Leta 108
Pusan 89
hero 80
PianO 80
Bale 62
scan(afreeca) 60
Hyun 59
ToSsGirL 49
Barracks 46
Sharp 43
sSak 32
Backho 30
910 27
Shine 23
Shinee 22
soO 20
HiyA 20
Terrorterran 14
Rock 12
SilentControl 11
GoRush 11
JulyZerg 9
Icarus 6
Dota 2
Gorgc6875
LuMiX0
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2834
fl0m1671
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King92
Other Games
singsing2281
Liquid`RaSZi1193
B2W.Neo784
hiko564
crisheroes432
DeMusliM267
XaKoH 162
Livibee71
ArmadaUGS49
ZerO(Twitch)19
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL18090
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 15
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HappyZerGling 69
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
10h 41m
The PondCast
20h 41m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 10h
WardiTV Team League
1d 21h
Replay Cast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
3 days
OSC
3 days
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.