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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On July 28 2013 21:54 Numy wrote: Not sure which hero I should buy. Gragas or Kass. The only AP mid I really play is Ori and some Ryze but I prefer Ryze in top lane these days. Fizz. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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XilDarkz
United States563 Posts
I'm doing better still, been floating around 40-60 LP in Silver 1, will push for Gold tomorrow, then spam Elise til she's nerfed. and because people will ask: www.lolking.net/summoner/na/34446 TOPIC BREAK Fizz is seriously the most frustrating hero in the world to play against. (says Syndra-only player) edit: decided a topic was better as its own, new reply | ||
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XilDarkz
United States563 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On July 28 2013 22:08 XilDarkz wrote: Fizz is seriously the most frustrating hero in the world to play against. (says Syndra-only player) On behalf of all TF players I feel you bro. Also after watching sgs vs TPA on garena's stream I can now conclude that SGS is legitimately carried by chawy, we're talking spring split doublelift/ IEM cologne reapered levels of carried. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
Fizz is so expensive though and I'm still playing with like 1 rune page. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On July 28 2013 22:07 XilDarkz wrote: Won my first ranked game as Elise... opened up the game with a great leash at purple side blue, stole their red (level 3), ganked bottom for first blood + double kill (they were still level 1) I'm doing better still, been floating around 40-60 LP in Silver 1, will push for Gold tomorrow, then spam Elise til she's nerfed. www.lolking.net/summoner/na/34446 Fizz is seriously the most frustrating hero in the world to play against. (says Syndra-only player) I lose to Arczer (also Syndra main) as Fizz all the time, without Jungle support. You have to poke and zone like a beast then at 6, anytime Fizz commits offensively, it's free ulti. On July 28 2013 22:11 Numy wrote: Fizz is so expensive though and I'm still playing with like 1 rune page. Poor Numy. Go with Kass. Learn to last hit under turret, win games. Also, there's no champion better for learning how to roam as an AP Mid than Kass. For obvious reasons. But if you get the timing and sense down, it makes side lane ganks with "less" mobile APs much easier. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On July 28 2013 22:11 NeoIllusions wrote: I lose to Arczer (also Syndra main) as Fizz all the time, without Jungle support. You have to poke and zone like a beast then at 6, anytime Fizz commits offensively, it's free ulti. Poor Numy. Go with Kass. Learn to last hit under turret, win games. Fuck last hitting, yolo queue kassadin is about farming the champs with riftwalk. The only real problem with kass is that when he gets a bad match up oh god does it go awful for you, there's very little you can do but pray, cry to jungle and hope you can make something happen at 6. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
Kassadin is a stupid broken whore champ, and not very fun. | ||
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
EDIT: Also, Kayle mid seems super strong. I played her earlier today and you just push and harass all day, and your W lets you roam pretty effectively while still just plowing down mid turret. What do you do again this dood? | ||
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XilDarkz
United States563 Posts
No, I'm not going Flask+Chalice+Doran's x2; I never really went that in the first place and it was just an awkward game that I bought that in when I wasn't thinking things through. GOALS: As a Dota player, slot itemization and cost effectiveness is ESSENTIAL. Also as a dota player, its natural to keep a slot open for a TP which I instead replace with wards or pots. As a 6 or 7 Orb Ultimate Require-er (?), CDR is also very important, and I only get 4% from runes/masteries, so... here we go, and I think I can accomplish all these goals. New Builds: Start Doran's, first back get Tear>Wards>Boots and take the 2nd blue (Regen, Tear Stacking, Doran's AP, Wards, Boots is a lot) until blue runs out and when I've exhausted my mana or died/been low enough to die and forced to back, where I then buy Elixir+book(the book that gives 10% CDR), get my tier2 boots and then it depends on the enemy team; if I'm losing or need an immediate boost in effective damage, haunting guise Inventory: SorcBoots, Tear, Dorans, BookOfCDR, Haunting Guise, Wards/Pots if they are sufficiently farming (as in, they aren't silver in CSing...) and Deathfire is useful (read: not being overkilled massively by ultimate) then I get deathfire Inventory: SorcBoots, Tear, 2xDorans, Deathfire, Wards/Pots if they are magic heavy, I get Athene's Inventory: SorcBoots, Tear, Dorans, BookOfCDR,Chalice, Wards/Pots if they are physical heavy, I get armguard Inventory: SorcBoots, Tear, Dorans, BookOfCDR,Armguard, Wards/Pots if deathfire is useless because I would overkill, I delay it and if I don't need resists/armor, void staff then deathfire later Inventory: SorcBoots, Tear, Dorans, BookofCDR, 40APstaff(makes into voidstaff), wards/pots End-Game: SorcBoots(Homeguard usually), Seraph's, VoidStaff, Zhonya's, Deathcap, then either Athene's or Deathfire OLD BUILDS all get athene's, not tear edit: wall of text effect, activated; I'm going to sleep soon so I'm most likely not going to get to respond immediately to feedback--I will, when I'm back, search for my name and read all posts that quote me. If you don't quote me but want to give feedback, please put xildarkz at the end of your post. | ||
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XilDarkz
United States563 Posts
On July 28 2013 22:11 NeoIllusions wrote: I lose to Arczer (also Syndra main) as Fizz all the time, without Jungle support. You have to poke and zone like a beast then at 6, anytime Fizz commits offensively, it's free ulti. I want to see VODs or replays of any good Syndra laning against any good Fizz... I will give up my first born child for these(clarification: even if the Syndra loses, just because I want to see how they deal with the Fizz). Also, are you good? It seems that you're an admin but are you one of the people respected here not out of authority but out of skill and knowledge? | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Its actually somewhat viable to start shield on him as i went back to base and bought chete+3 and didnt use the pots untill i was left ( -_- ) to solo drake. Was surprised i didnt just die really lol, 1st clear time was somewhat slow but i just used smite on blue and then it came off CD when i went to red so buff times were faster. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On July 28 2013 22:07 nafta wrote: Kass is more reliable imo.Most times in soloq people don't 2v1 you too which is his biggest weakness :D. If you're good at Gragas, he has far fewer straight up counters. But he's not an easy champion. | ||
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XilDarkz
United States563 Posts
On July 28 2013 22:41 Capped wrote: I accidently bought a dorans shield on a malph jungle today and ended up getting a double kill on bot after red. Its actually somewhat viable to start shield on him as i went back to base and bought chete+3 and didnt use the pots untill i was left ( -_- ) to solo drake. Was surprised i didnt just die really lol, 1st clear time was somewhat slow but i just used smite on blue and then it came off CD when i went to red so buff times were faster. I have a friend that I was duo-ing with (Silver1) that accidentally bought a doran's shield one game and started using it a lot (intentionally); I'm not sure if it's effectiveness is simply underutilized since it's cost was changed, but, doran's shield+pot is actually a lot of sustain and you win in AA harass wars by an incredible margin | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On July 28 2013 22:44 zer0das wrote: If you're good at Gragas, he has far fewer straight up counters. But he's not an easy champion. Was more envisioning that his teamfights are easier to play well ^^.Gragas should be able to free farm vs pretty much anything probably. Doran's shield op on vayne. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On July 28 2013 22:28 XilDarkz wrote: Some discussion on Syndra builds... No, I'm not going Flask+Chalice+Doran's x2; I never really went that in the first place and it was just an awkward game that I bought that in when I wasn't thinking things through. GOALS: As a Dota player, slot itemization and cost effectiveness is ESSENTIAL. Also as a dota player, its natural to keep a slot open for a TP which I instead replace with wards or pots. As a 6 or 7 Orb Ultimate Require-er (?), CDR is also very important, and I only get 4% from runes/masteries, so... here we go, and I think I can accomplish all these goals. New Builds: Start Doran's, first back get Tear>Wards>Boots and take the 2nd blue (Regen, Tear Stacking, Doran's AP, Wards, Boots is a lot) until blue runs out and when I've exhausted my mana or died/been low enough to die and forced to back, where I then buy Elixir+book(the book that gives 10% CDR), get my tier2 boots and then it depends on the enemy team; if I'm losing or need an immediate boost in effective damage, haunting guise Inventory: SorcBoots, Tear, Dorans, BookOfCDR, Haunting Guise, Wards/Pots if they are sufficiently farming (as in, they aren't silver in CSing...) and Deathfire is useful (read: not being overkilled massively by ultimate) then I get deathfire Inventory: SorcBoots, Tear, 2xDorans, Deathfire, Wards/Pots if they are magic heavy, I get Athene's Inventory: SorcBoots, Tear, Dorans, BookOfCDR,Chalice, Wards/Pots if they are physical heavy, I get armguard Inventory: SorcBoots, Tear, Dorans, BookOfCDR,Armguard, Wards/Pots if deathfire is useless because I would overkill, I delay it and if I don't need resists/armor, void staff then deathfire later Inventory: SorcBoots, Tear, Dorans, BookofCDR, 40APstaff(makes into voidstaff), wards/pots End-Game: SorcBoots(Homeguard usually), Seraph's, VoidStaff, Zhonya's, Deathcap, then either Athene's or Deathfire OLD BUILDS all get athene's, not tear edit: wall of text effect, activated; I'm going to sleep soon so I'm most likely not going to get to respond immediately to feedback--I will, when I'm back, search for my name and read all posts that quote me. If you don't quote me but want to give feedback, please put xildarkz at the end of your post. Am I to understand that your builds tend to skip the tear and get Grail+NomNomicon for 40% no-blue CDR? Or do you get Grail and Blue for your 40% CDR and skip the item slot for Book too? | ||
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DarKFoRcE
Germany1215 Posts
@Neoillusions: is it ok to link my/our content here now and then? | ||
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