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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 07:46:07
July 28 2013 07:45 GMT
#6121
Maybe if you could get yourself into a position that one person can't stop you from split pushing, but if 2 come your team can baron. Then even if you get caught and killed, you can still revive and ult to baron.

Very situational, and probably the ony time it'd be useful.
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vvSiegvv
Profile Joined March 2010
United States364 Posts
July 28 2013 07:47 GMT
#6122
Hybrid pen runes on Singed are amazing. Like Jonny said above you get a free auto during his flip, and a lot of the time on singed you're going to be orb walking and getting a couple auto's in while you keep up with them. I haven't done the math but I know it feels like you're putting out a lot more damage against your lane opponent with the hybrid pen ruins.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
July 28 2013 07:52 GMT
#6123
is there any other champ that uses hybrid pen? they are so expensive
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 28 2013 07:54 GMT
#6124
On July 28 2013 16:52 FinestHour wrote:
is there any other champ that uses hybrid pen? they are so expensive

Only the best champion in the game.

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vvSiegvv
Profile Joined March 2010
United States364 Posts
July 28 2013 08:00 GMT
#6125
I like them on Twisted Fate, Kayle, and Nid.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
July 28 2013 08:11 GMT
#6126
i actually extremely enjoy kayle and that makes sense for hybrid pen on her now that you mention it, imma save some IP
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nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
July 28 2013 08:35 GMT
#6127
Hybrid pen is the logical choice on tons of champs, people just default to Mpen/AD a vast majority of the time.
cool beans
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
July 28 2013 08:45 GMT
#6128
Does item damage (e.g sunfire) benefit from pen too? So sunfire would benefit from Mpen?
Useless wet fish.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 08:46:50
July 28 2013 08:46 GMT
#6129
On July 28 2013 16:52 FinestHour wrote:
is there any other champ that uses hybrid pen? they are so expensive


teemo shen kayle fizz kennen poppy shyvana

situationally ahri annie ziggs tristana

lots more probably

hybrid pen pretty good

On July 28 2013 17:45 Capped wrote:
Does item damage (e.g sunfire) benefit from pen too? So sunfire would benefit from Mpen?


yes
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
July 28 2013 08:52 GMT
#6130
<insert the more you know star>

TY! :-D That makes itemisation/runes/masteries pretty deep :o
Useless wet fish.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
July 28 2013 09:20 GMT
#6131
Ori sticks out as a very good user of Hybrid Pen.
cool beans
vvSiegvv
Profile Joined March 2010
United States364 Posts
July 28 2013 09:33 GMT
#6132
Oh god i have no idea why ive never done that but that makes so much sense lol. I literally just got out of an ori game too. T_T
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 09:37:54
July 28 2013 09:35 GMT
#6133
Magic pen are good on a ton of champs

Mundo is a very strong candidate.

Nasus and Akali can both run them.

Also Volibear and Warwick, they are more commonly run with AS, but hybrid is a strong choice if you are going to be laning or autoing a bit less than usual.

hybrid pen on Orianna is a more specific choice in really emphasizing her early laning power, as later on with her passive and all her spells scaling far above her base AD and doing pure magic damage, you aren't going to get much from the Apen.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 28 2013 09:36 GMT
#6134
Hybrid pen actually pretty decent on a lot of AP mids, as well. Especially if they're gonna lane against a melee champ. Some supports do well with hybrid pen too.
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 09:52:05
July 28 2013 09:49 GMT
#6135
Does anyone know Nyjackys new smurfs name? My friend is in Voyboys game, and everyone is saying that Nyjacky is in it too. But he isnt streaming.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
July 28 2013 09:49 GMT
#6136
I recently went through the arduous process of buying the hybrid pen marks and I've been finding them to be really noticeable on Fizz and Kayle. I haven't tried it on other champs that would make obvious use of them (like Jax, Kennen, or Teemo, for example) but it would probably work out pretty well. For example, with 30/0/0 Fizz you start the game with 13|8% arpen and 5|8% mpen, and at lvl2 if your lane opponent isn't careful and gets in range of your combo you easily take off like 50%~70% health. If you open with fort pot you can just kill them in a similar scenario, and something close to that with a dring opening.

I can imagine them being good on someone like Annie for a bunch of matchups as well.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 09:53:28
July 28 2013 09:52 GMT
#6137
On July 28 2013 18:49 RagequitBM wrote:
Does anyone know Nyjackys new smurfs name? My friend is in Voyboys game, and everyone is saying that Nyjacky is in it too. But he isnt streaming.


http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/44989307

?

idk about voyboy's game
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2013 09:54 GMT
#6138
On July 28 2013 18:49 koreasilver wrote:
I recently went through the arduous process of buying the hybrid pen marks and I've been finding them to be really noticeable on Fizz and Kayle. I haven't tried it on other champs that would make obvious use of them (like Jax, Kennen, or Teemo, for example) but it would probably work out pretty well. For example, with 30/0/0 Fizz you start the game with 13|8% arpen and 5|8% mpen, and at lvl2 if your lane opponent isn't careful and gets in range of your combo you easily take off like 50%~70% health. If you open with fort pot you can just kill them in a similar scenario, and something close to that with a dring opening.

I can imagine them being good on someone like Annie for a bunch of matchups as well.

huehue, guess what I named my Split Pen Mastery page after?+ Show Spoiler +
Fizz Kayle
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RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
July 28 2013 09:56 GMT
#6139
Alright thanks! Yeah it's not Nyjacky, I thought so haha.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
July 28 2013 10:02 GMT
#6140
On July 28 2013 18:54 NeoIllusions wrote:
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On July 28 2013 18:49 koreasilver wrote:
I recently went through the arduous process of buying the hybrid pen marks and I've been finding them to be really noticeable on Fizz and Kayle. I haven't tried it on other champs that would make obvious use of them (like Jax, Kennen, or Teemo, for example) but it would probably work out pretty well. For example, with 30/0/0 Fizz you start the game with 13|8% arpen and 5|8% mpen, and at lvl2 if your lane opponent isn't careful and gets in range of your combo you easily take off like 50%~70% health. If you open with fort pot you can just kill them in a similar scenario, and something close to that with a dring opening.

I can imagine them being good on someone like Annie for a bunch of matchups as well.

huehue, guess what I named my Split Pen Mastery page after?+ Show Spoiler +
Fizz Kayle

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