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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
July 25 2013 23:24 GMT
#5461
On July 26 2013 08:20 thenexusp wrote:
After messing with numbers, you could spend 5000 RP ($35) in the following manner:

5x 487 RP (975RP skin on sale)
1x 375 RP (750RP skin on sale)
2x 260 RP (520RP skin on sale)
2x 160 RP (2-win IP boost lol)

If that's the case, you could spend 5001 RP ($35 + 1 leftover RP) by getting 3x 487 RP sale champ/skin + 1x full price 975 RP champ/skin, plus all the other stuff.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 25 2013 23:33 GMT
#5462
Wait, did Jatt elaborate on why Viktor's his favourite champ?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
July 25 2013 23:35 GMT
#5463
On July 26 2013 08:33 Alaric wrote:
Wait, did Jatt elaborate on why Viktor's his favourite champ?

He thinks vector targeting is awesome
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vvSiegvv
Profile Joined March 2010
United States364 Posts
July 25 2013 23:43 GMT
#5464
On July 25 2013 22:59 NeoIllusions wrote:
Would TL LoL be interested if I start doing a few IHs a week for lowbies. Full on tryhard with the intention of improving. For fun, per se, but it would be so users can some experience about a 5s settings. If you're bronze or silver and you end up laning against me (for example), it would be because you asked for it and wanted to learn how to lane better. There should be no raging post game, which is something that has consistently plagued TL IHs in the past. (oh, the amount of butthurt stories I've heard...)

Yango approached me about this a few days ago about how he felt sorry for some of you guys who have never gotten to LoL beyond solo queue.


I would love something like this. I'm Silver II for reference, and should be able to play League again in like 2 weeks. I just graduated so I'm currently back at my hometown where I can't get a league connection with sub 200 ping, but I should be shortly heading down to Austin where getting a good connection is one of my first priorities.

Now that I'm done with school I'm going to really focus on improving at League as soon as I get my own place/internet set up.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 26 2013 00:03 GMT
#5465
Was talking with some folks in chat a bit ago, anyone have any insight into Lissandra builds? RoA didnt feel quite right to me, was thinking maybe Grail? She feels like a spammer to me, lots of Qs to harass and push.
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 00:10:54
July 26 2013 00:10 GMT
#5466
Abyssal maybe? Your range is short anyway. Also CDR pretty good. And of course Zhonya.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 00:14:34
July 26 2013 00:12 GMT
#5467
ROA doesn't seem bad when you're getting down and dirty in the middle of the enemy team, or Dorans -> Abyssal Zhonya?

Q is so short range and already has a pretty short cooldown so it's already going to be good on waveclear but you aren't going to easily be able to harass without trades, so early resists seem important, and you aren't going to stay in for multiple Q's unless you're going to full combo (in which case, high burst > cdr)
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
July 26 2013 00:13 GMT
#5468
On July 26 2013 07:17 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 07:09 ketchup wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

also finally caught up to actually post stuff only 5 pages late. WOOOOOOO

LOL KETCHUP


This is a lot funnier when you forget that Ketchup is an actual person on Team Liquid.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
July 26 2013 00:15 GMT
#5469
On July 26 2013 08:35 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 08:33 Alaric wrote:
Wait, did Jatt elaborate on why Viktor's his favourite champ?

He thinks vector targeting is awesome

Also having "fun" losing 20 games in a row before getting the hang of the champ, so hipster masochism plays a part too I'm guessing.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 26 2013 00:16 GMT
#5470
On July 26 2013 09:03 Requizen wrote:
Was talking with some folks in chat a bit ago, anyone have any insight into Lissandra builds? RoA didnt feel quite right to me, was thinking maybe Grail? She feels like a spammer to me, lots of Qs to harass and push.


From what I've seen most people do something like double dorans -> Abyssal or double dorans -> zhonyas. Think Grail is overkill due to the passive.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 26 2013 00:20 GMT
#5471
On July 26 2013 06:53 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 06:05 TheHumanSensation wrote:
So guys, justicar syndra sale.

But my RP is at 0.

Someone had a chain of RP-buying and using that ended up at 0 again.

Need

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I KNOW THAT FEEL 5HIT
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i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
July 26 2013 00:24 GMT
#5472
On July 26 2013 09:20 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 06:53 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On July 26 2013 06:05 TheHumanSensation wrote:
So guys, justicar syndra sale.

But my RP is at 0.

Someone had a chain of RP-buying and using that ended up at 0 again.

Need

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I KNOW THAT FEEL 5HIT
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I read that "I KNOW THAT I FEEL SHIT"
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 26 2013 00:49 GMT
#5473
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ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 26 2013 01:04 GMT
#5474
I've felt that Rod always feels a little underwhelming unless you can get it early on OR get other defensive items with it. Even with the extra few hundred HP, you still get blown up because no resists.

On like Singed its great, but other people I always feel a little iffy.
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JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
July 26 2013 01:05 GMT
#5475
Should I actually try to learn Windows 8 or should I just go back to the tried and tested Windows XP look?
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
July 26 2013 01:06 GMT
#5476
This ramen is amazing. I do indeed lift.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 26 2013 01:13 GMT
#5477
On July 26 2013 09:12 sylverfyre wrote:
ROA doesn't seem bad when you're getting down and dirty in the middle of the enemy team, or Dorans -> Abyssal Zhonya?

Q is so short range and already has a pretty short cooldown so it's already going to be good on waveclear but you aren't going to easily be able to harass without trades, so early resists seem important, and you aren't going to stay in for multiple Q's unless you're going to full combo (in which case, high burst > cdr)

I dunno, I think I just dislike RoA as an item. It has strange timings where you have Catalyst, or an "empty" RoA, and it just feels flat. I'd probably go with a couple Doran's Rings on my next play of her. Alternatively, Guise/Liandry's? Or are her bases not high enough to justify that over a "harder" AP item?
It's your boy Guzma!
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
July 26 2013 01:24 GMT
#5478
On release I'd say they were, but they dropped a few of her base damages noticably

Also, the splash of Q doesn't slow, only the initial does I think?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 26 2013 01:27 GMT
#5479
On July 26 2013 10:24 sylverfyre wrote:
On release I'd say they were, but they dropped a few of her base damages noticably

Also, the splash of Q doesn't slow, only the initial does I think?

Yeah, just the first target. So not quite as good for Liandry's, but it'd still work decent for kiting with W and R
It's your boy Guzma!
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 01:30:05
July 26 2013 01:28 GMT
#5480
On July 26 2013 10:13 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 09:12 sylverfyre wrote:
ROA doesn't seem bad when you're getting down and dirty in the middle of the enemy team, or Dorans -> Abyssal Zhonya?

Q is so short range and already has a pretty short cooldown so it's already going to be good on waveclear but you aren't going to easily be able to harass without trades, so early resists seem important, and you aren't going to stay in for multiple Q's unless you're going to full combo (in which case, high burst > cdr)

I dunno, I think I just dislike RoA as an item. It has strange timings where you have Catalyst, or an "empty" RoA, and it just feels flat. I'd probably go with a couple Doran's Rings on my next play of her. Alternatively, Guise/Liandry's? Or are her bases not high enough to justify that over a "harder" AP item?


It feels really awkward because they've hit catalyst multiple times throughout it's inception. So, due to cost increases, it's gotten an odd timing in some builds. It's still plenty amazing as an item though. Nowadays, since people are going tear -> catalyst, it's especially odd how things turn out.

This is more LCS, but no idea why scarra attempted to go tear -> catalyst for Kassadin, unless the Kassadin was able to rush a very early RoA, which didn't happen with Scarra in that game today. It didn't help that scarra had like 90 CS while his counterparts(solo laners) all had above 150
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