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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 25 2013 06:22 GMT
#5201
On July 25 2013 15:21 wei2coolman wrote:
royal gunna need to work on that 3v1 tower dive...

I heard they practised 3v1 dives with EG all day.
Glorious SEA doto
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 06:29:21
July 25 2013 06:24 GMT
#5202
these games are insane.

edit: what does Uzi play besides Vayne? i was kinda expecting a ban in g3

edit2: nvm i am blind.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 06:29:08
July 25 2013 06:27 GMT
#5203
Bruta is a nice midgame item, but cleaver/ ghostblade are kind of awkward items on AD's except like MF or someone that can really apply the stacks.

I'd kind of like to see more ghostblades on AD's actually.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 06:33:37
July 25 2013 06:29 GMT
#5204
On July 25 2013 15:27 ticklishmusic wrote:
Bruta is a nice midgame item, but cleaver/ ghostblade are kind of awkward items on AD's except like MF or someone that can really apply the stacks.

Bruta would sort of fall into the hexdrinker/maw interaction; where you don't really buy Bruta/ghostblade until you've completed everything else.

Royal randomly getting caught, costing them the game.
liftlift > tsm
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 25 2013 06:35 GMT
#5205
Not sure if China; or NA.
liftlift > tsm
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 25 2013 06:39 GMT
#5206
On July 25 2013 15:35 wei2coolman wrote:
Not sure if China; or NA.

I've concluded that China is NA, with god tier mindblowingly good mechanics.
Glorious SEA doto
XilDarkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States563 Posts
July 25 2013 06:39 GMT
#5207
Few, direct, simple questions relating to my match-ups as Syndra:

v. Fizz: Fizz is obviously a counter, my standard response is to cry or to ban when I am top pick. My standard in-game response is starting Flask+HP Pots (replace 2 pots with ward if enemy jungler is a threat) and auto-attack harassing to hell at low levels before they gets any levels. They'll usually back until they are around lvl4 where they can do a QWE (in whatever order happens to be most convenient) and I basically lose the lane from then on, with a dive coming at 6; it is nearly impossible for me to make a first-to-6 timing with my ultimate because I have to wait for the jump to be off cooldown in order to land it... any problems with my approach?

v. Ahri: It seems that Ahri's mobility once she's level 6 basically allows her invincibility from being hit by skill shots. I put as much pressure as possible pre-6, but, late-game she is able to out-fight me.
aka Mathies! twitch.tv/Mathies if you want to watch me fail. esfiworld.com/author/mathies/
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 25 2013 06:41 GMT
#5208
You know this isn't NA because one Jungler appears to be rushing a thornmail and the other might be rushing a sunfire. Not an aegis in sight!
Freeeeeeedom
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 25 2013 06:41 GMT
#5209
On July 25 2013 15:41 cLutZ wrote:
You know this isn't NA because one Jungler appears to be rushing a thornmail and the other might be rushing a sunfire. Not an aegis in sight!

China says fuck you to lemonation's world meta.
Glorious SEA doto
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
July 25 2013 06:44 GMT
#5210
On July 25 2013 14:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Random question time!
Support itemization these days...what's it all about?
Is Sightstone absolutely necessary or can you buy wards + gp5-->Shurelya's/Locket/bulwark etc?
What do you generally buy on your first/second backs?


I have 3 gp/10 from quints, 2 from masteries and build philo first. This is waaay too much but I can't risk having a poor opening (in soloq) and having to back with no gold.

Plus by 20mins I can easily afford an oracles. If I was playing arranged 5's I'd defs scrap the gp10 runes.
@miicah88
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
July 25 2013 06:46 GMT
#5211
On July 25 2013 15:39 XilDarkz wrote:
Few, direct, simple questions relating to my match-ups as Syndra:

v. Fizz: Fizz is obviously a counter, my standard response is to cry or to ban when I am top pick. My standard in-game response is starting Flask+HP Pots (replace 2 pots with ward if enemy jungler is a threat) and auto-attack harassing to hell at low levels before they gets any levels. They'll usually back until they are around lvl4 where they can do a QWE (in whatever order happens to be most convenient) and I basically lose the lane from then on, with a dive coming at 6; it is nearly impossible for me to make a first-to-6 timing with my ultimate because I have to wait for the jump to be off cooldown in order to land it... any problems with my approach?

If you have to ban Fizz, something is wrong. Take Barrier if you're really suffering. Hybrid Pen reds, +3 AD in offense helps to increase your AA damage against Fizz.

v. Ahri: It seems that Ahri's mobility once she's level 6 basically allows her invincibility from being hit by skill shots. I put as much pressure as possible pre-6, but, late-game she is able to out-fight me.


Doesn't seem like it's such an unbalanced matchup to me, though I lack experience in mid. Unsure.
cool beans
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 25 2013 06:47 GMT
#5212
I came into work yesterday and am still here. Save me.

I'm going to leave some time in the morning once people get here and then sleep and get up and stream all evening/night.
It's your boy Guzma!
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
July 25 2013 06:51 GMT
#5213
so IG dont even need 100% power to win RC
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 25 2013 06:58 GMT
#5214
On July 25 2013 15:51 justiceknight wrote:
so IG dont even need 100% power to win RC

OMG>IG>Royal/PE/WE in some order
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wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
July 25 2013 07:10 GMT
#5215
i actually used to get bruta->tear->manamune->ibg->lw->bt for 39% cdr the whole game when everyone else was doing lizard build still. it was pretty darn good in my experience but i haven't played ezreal in a month so idk
BW -> League -> CSGO
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 07:21:33
July 25 2013 07:21 GMT
#5216
On July 25 2013 15:39 XilDarkz wrote:
Few, direct, simple questions relating to my match-ups as Syndra:

v. Fizz: Fizz is obviously a counter, my standard response is to cry or to ban when I am top pick. My standard in-game response is starting Flask+HP Pots (replace 2 pots with ward if enemy jungler is a threat) and auto-attack harassing to hell at low levels before they gets any levels. They'll usually back until they are around lvl4 where they can do a QWE (in whatever order happens to be most convenient) and I basically lose the lane from then on, with a dive coming at 6; it is nearly impossible for me to make a first-to-6 timing with my ultimate because I have to wait for the jump to be off cooldown in order to land it... any problems with my approach?

v. Ahri: It seems that Ahri's mobility once she's level 6 basically allows her invincibility from being hit by skill shots. I put as much pressure as possible pre-6, but, late-game she is able to out-fight me.

Ahri is not as bad as the match up suggests, simply because you have good burst. She's not gonna ult you on reaction to you dropping Q, so you have initiative if you ever want to QE stun to start something, and unless she's psychic she won't be able to stop a stun combo off your ult. Late game you have more utility and more burst but less mobility, and you shouldn't be trying to one-on-one her anyway.

More importantly, you can match her in shoving lanes. If you prevent her from roaming and if you don't die to her, you will outscale her in the mid/late game.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
July 25 2013 07:43 GMT
#5217
On July 25 2013 16:21 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 15:39 XilDarkz wrote:
Few, direct, simple questions relating to my match-ups as Syndra:

v. Fizz: Fizz is obviously a counter, my standard response is to cry or to ban when I am top pick. My standard in-game response is starting Flask+HP Pots (replace 2 pots with ward if enemy jungler is a threat) and auto-attack harassing to hell at low levels before they gets any levels. They'll usually back until they are around lvl4 where they can do a QWE (in whatever order happens to be most convenient) and I basically lose the lane from then on, with a dive coming at 6; it is nearly impossible for me to make a first-to-6 timing with my ultimate because I have to wait for the jump to be off cooldown in order to land it... any problems with my approach?

v. Ahri: It seems that Ahri's mobility once she's level 6 basically allows her invincibility from being hit by skill shots. I put as much pressure as possible pre-6, but, late-game she is able to out-fight me.

Ahri is not as bad as the match up suggests, simply because you have good burst. She's not gonna ult you on reaction to you dropping Q, so you have initiative if you ever want to QE stun to start something, and unless she's psychic she won't be able to stop a stun combo off your ult. Late game you have more utility and more burst but less mobility, and you shouldn't be trying to one-on-one her anyway.

More importantly, you can match her in shoving lanes. If you prevent her from roaming and if you don't die to her, you will outscale her in the mid/late game.


With ahri, if you dodge the E, you can dodge the Q. Like said, she isnt going to R just to avoid your all-in and if she does, then she just wasted her ult and you (should.) still have yours to all in next time. Flash is there for a reason, if ahri dodges your Q and goes all-in with her ult, flash away and make her waste it, if she follows, all in her as she just wasted the ult damage and probably e/q getting to you. If no flash, You have a knockback to escape with.

Fizz...fizz is a fucking fish who needs to die in a non-watery hole. I hate that cunt. You basically dodge her combo, or you dont. If you dodge it, all in, if you dont, wait for respawn Range is a big factor going up against Fizz, you either need a bigger all-in or you need range to keep her from doing it so u can farm. (Lux, Morg work well for ranged-farming). The thing about fizz is her trollpole, dash and slow-knockup ult are very difficult to deal with. I dont think syndra is the best pick vs fizz.

And you're still spamming syndra only games? You need more experience with other champions and you seem to be coming across the pitfall that is no champ is best-pick all the time. Ahri's matchup is fine, Fizz v Syndra seems like a hellhole with how squishy you are.
Useless wet fish.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 07:48:54
July 25 2013 07:46 GMT
#5218
On July 25 2013 15:58 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 15:51 justiceknight wrote:
so IG dont even need 100% power to win RC

OMG>IG>Royal/PE/WE in some order


I dislike putting PE in the same tier as Royal and WE. They are, fundamentally, weaker and more inconsistent imo.

iG might average out to greater success right now, but they still have the most volatility for sure...Feel like that should be accounted for.

On July 25 2013 15:41 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 15:41 cLutZ wrote:
You know this isn't NA because one Jungler appears to be rushing a thornmail and the other might be rushing a sunfire. Not an aegis in sight!

China says fuck you to lemonation's world meta.


I honestly had no idea what that lemonation article was even trying to say.
TranslatorBaa!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51648 Posts
July 25 2013 07:57 GMT
#5219
is the second ban from OMG talon? god i hate these icons.
Commentator
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 25 2013 07:58 GMT
#5220
On July 25 2013 16:57 GTR wrote:
is the second ban from OMG talon? god i hate these icons.

Shen
It's your boy Guzma!
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