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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 23 2013 21:43 GMT
#4601
Guinea Pigs don't have the personality of a cat or dog though, I don't want something that just sits in a cage.
It's your boy Guzma!
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 23 2013 21:44 GMT
#4602
Bit late, but sorry Scip. You played pretty well overall IMO (didn't catch much of you on Nunu but wasn't terrible...), but that bot lane was just bad.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 23 2013 21:46 GMT
#4603
The only real OTP is requizen and guinea pigs.
Glorious SEA doto
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
July 23 2013 21:46 GMT
#4604
On July 24 2013 06:43 Requizen wrote:
Guinea Pigs don't have the personality of a cat or dog though, I don't want something that just sits in a cage.

no way man they meep and run up to the bars when you get home and go crazy for lettus.
they stink tho, and dont have as animated emotions as cats or dogs, so i see where you are comming from.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 23 2013 21:47 GMT
#4605
On July 24 2013 06:43 Requizen wrote:
Guinea Pigs don't have the personality of a cat or dog though, I don't want something that just sits in a cage.


If you think that gps don't have personalities and just sit in a cage I must say you don't deserve to have one of those majestic creatures in your life.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
July 23 2013 21:47 GMT
#4606
On July 24 2013 06:40 Requizen wrote:
I still think Vi and Cait need to have a theme skin together.

+ Show Spoiler +
Realest OTP in League

[image loading]

Pfft, if Riot would go that route they'd go full on anime and dump Jayce in there for a triangle.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
July 23 2013 21:50 GMT
#4607
On July 24 2013 06:40 Slayer91 wrote:

there is no rule because there was no solo q for dota (that matched you with the best players) you had to play inhouse leagues or whatever to get good games. You can play solo q and climb the ladder and play with the best players that way. There has been no case where a bunch of players who sucked at solo q dominated as a team. even the case everyone touts as diamondprox beign 1700, by the time m5 had their first tournament diamondprox was rank 3 in EUW solo q or osmething with 70%~ winrate

Thats a culture thing though. correlation =/= causation. Solo queue is often viewed as the only way to play seriously in league of legends outside of actual tournaments.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
July 23 2013 21:50 GMT
#4608
On July 24 2013 06:03 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 06:02 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 24 2013 05:59 TheYango wrote:
On July 24 2013 05:54 Scip wrote:
I can't emphasise how much playing ranked5s retarded my growth as a player
just people with wrong opinions forcing wrong playstyles on you giving you wrong advice picking wrong champions making wrong calls and blaming their lack of success on irrelevant small failures.
Text above describes the most successful team I've been in so far.

it took me like 2 weeks of really really painful soloQ just to regain the knowledge I had and get back to the point where I was before I started playing with them.

Well Scip, you're someone who I'd consider a fairly successful solo queue player who's more or less reconciled yourself with the mindset required to be successful in solo queue.

There are a lot of LoL players who play ranked who are not this way, and will never be this way, and if they're getting ragey and frustrated every solo queue game, they're not going to improve quickly either.

I think people without the right solo queue mindset; isn't going to bring the right mindset in 5's either. Still going to blame others, and not accept any of their own faults.

if you don't understand what is your fault when 4 other people agree that something was a mistake. then playing solo queue isn't going to help that person. that guys just a dick. it doesn't mean the 4 other people should give up and go to solo queue.

or the 4 people are wrong, as they so often are
especially when they don't know anything about the subject, which happens quite often, especially if the subject is something like, hmmmm, JUNGLING
when they all laners
sigh
yes I am still bitter
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 23 2013 21:50 GMT
#4609
On July 24 2013 06:47 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 06:43 Requizen wrote:
Guinea Pigs don't have the personality of a cat or dog though, I don't want something that just sits in a cage.


If you think that gps don't have personalities and just sit in a cage I must say you don't deserve to have one of those majestic creatures in your life.

Clearly.

On July 24 2013 06:47 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 06:40 Requizen wrote:
I still think Vi and Cait need to have a theme skin together.

+ Show Spoiler +
Realest OTP in League

[image loading]

Pfft, if Riot would go that route they'd go full on anime and dump Jayce in there for a triangle.

I'd pay good money for OT3 Piltover skins/lore.
It's your boy Guzma!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 23 2013 21:52 GMT
#4610
On July 24 2013 06:47 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 06:40 Requizen wrote:
I still think Vi and Cait need to have a theme skin together.

+ Show Spoiler +
Realest OTP in League

[image loading]

Pfft, if Riot would go that route they'd go full on anime and dump Jayce in there for a triangle.

The only true pairing for jayce is viktor n00b.
Glorious SEA doto
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 21:53:22
July 23 2013 21:52 GMT
#4611
http://na.lolesports.com/season3/split2/teams/tsm-snapdragon
Riot going full china with those heavy photoshop and makeup team shoots? but why don't they look as badaass as Misaya, Wx and co at all? :\

C9 and Vulcuns look good, curse is nice too.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 23 2013 21:52 GMT
#4612
On July 24 2013 06:52 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 06:47 Gahlo wrote:
On July 24 2013 06:40 Requizen wrote:
I still think Vi and Cait need to have a theme skin together.

+ Show Spoiler +
Realest OTP in League

[image loading]

Pfft, if Riot would go that route they'd go full on anime and dump Jayce in there for a triangle.

The only true pairing for jayce is viktor n00b.

S-stop trying to destroy Piltover

B-baka!
It's your boy Guzma!
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 21:53:35
July 23 2013 21:53 GMT
#4613
On July 24 2013 06:50 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 06:03 PrinceXizor wrote:
On July 24 2013 06:02 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 24 2013 05:59 TheYango wrote:
On July 24 2013 05:54 Scip wrote:
I can't emphasise how much playing ranked5s retarded my growth as a player
just people with wrong opinions forcing wrong playstyles on you giving you wrong advice picking wrong champions making wrong calls and blaming their lack of success on irrelevant small failures.
Text above describes the most successful team I've been in so far.

it took me like 2 weeks of really really painful soloQ just to regain the knowledge I had and get back to the point where I was before I started playing with them.

Well Scip, you're someone who I'd consider a fairly successful solo queue player who's more or less reconciled yourself with the mindset required to be successful in solo queue.

There are a lot of LoL players who play ranked who are not this way, and will never be this way, and if they're getting ragey and frustrated every solo queue game, they're not going to improve quickly either.

I think people without the right solo queue mindset; isn't going to bring the right mindset in 5's either. Still going to blame others, and not accept any of their own faults.

if you don't understand what is your fault when 4 other people agree that something was a mistake. then playing solo queue isn't going to help that person. that guys just a dick. it doesn't mean the 4 other people should give up and go to solo queue.

or the 4 people are wrong, as they so often are
especially when they don't know anything about the subject, which happens quite often, especially if the subject is something like, hmmmm, JUNGLING
when they all laners
sigh
yes I am still bitter

so if you know you are right, then you can provide proof, and evidence and explanations to your team. if you aren't doing that and having a full conversation and doing your best to explain and inform, then you aren't doing your job properly.

this is why teams sit down and watch replays and talk over things.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 23 2013 21:54 GMT
#4614
My friend got a guinea pig, and now she wishes it would just go away. Just sayin'.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
July 23 2013 21:54 GMT
#4615
On July 24 2013 06:24 TheYango wrote:
People should just play what's most fun for them, that's really all there is to it. The problem which I've repeatedly stated is that there's a stigma against wanting to improve through avenues other than solo queue (which is a legitimate desire because solo queue is frustrating). There doesn't need to be one.

It is discouraging, but it is really true as far as I am aware
I don't know about anyone who didn't get into progaming by rapping soloQ
People say diamondprox was recruited when he was 1700 elo but he probably got vouched for by Genja BECAUSE he rapped pretty damn hard in them soloQs.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 23 2013 21:56 GMT
#4616
On July 24 2013 06:52 AsnSensation wrote:
http://na.lolesports.com/season3/split2/teams/tsm-snapdragon
Riot going full china with those heavy photoshop and makeup team shoots? but why don't they look as badaass as Misaya, Wx and co at all? :\

C9 and Vulcuns look good, curse is nice too.

Meh, gomtv still kings of progamer make up
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=242822#two
Glorious SEA doto
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 23 2013 21:56 GMT
#4617
On July 24 2013 06:54 emperorchampion wrote:
My friend got a guinea pig, and now she wishes it would just go away. Just sayin'.

My Peruvian friend said guinea pigs makes for a nice dinner.
liftlift > tsm
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
July 23 2013 21:57 GMT
#4618
On July 24 2013 06:54 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 06:24 TheYango wrote:
People should just play what's most fun for them, that's really all there is to it. The problem which I've repeatedly stated is that there's a stigma against wanting to improve through avenues other than solo queue (which is a legitimate desire because solo queue is frustrating). There doesn't need to be one.

It is discouraging, but it is really true as far as I am aware
I don't know about anyone who didn't get into progaming by rapping soloQ
People say diamondprox was recruited when he was 1700 elo but he probably got vouched for by Genja BECAUSE he rapped pretty damn hard in them soloQs.

On July 24 2013 06:50 PrinceXizor wrote:
Thats a culture thing though. correlation =/= causation. Solo queue is often viewed as the only way to play seriously in league of legends outside of actual tournaments.

IF we created a game where the community only way to do better was to do a trials mode when you get the best score+time with random players involved. do you think that coordinating as a team would still be worse than that?

You should check out complexity's CoD team. They were the only group of people who actually sat down and practiced as a team, instead of just solo queuing and matchmaking. none of them were particularly good matchmaking players, but they practiced as a team and dominated dreamhack.
XilDarkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States563 Posts
July 23 2013 22:03 GMT
#4619
hi, guy that was bashed here, apparently there's about 40 pages that have cropped up since I went to sleep and then woke up and got on here... I hope its not expected that I read every single post in between occasions coming in here.

I've received a ridiculous amount of support after the fact, so I thank you guys for that.

I'm actually surprised that no one here is from TLHoN, where I learned the most about Dota in the constant inhouses with top level players...

I admit, I'm likely spoiled when it comes to practice in SC2 where having those handful of contacts allows you to practice solely in customs; the last months I had of fulltime SC2 were about 80/20 custom/ladder... but can you blame me for trying? Is learning faster really a 'shortcut' to be ashamed of? I hold firmly that efficiency is key.

aka Mathies! twitch.tv/Mathies if you want to watch me fail. esfiworld.com/author/mathies/
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 23 2013 22:03 GMT
#4620
On July 24 2013 06:54 Scip wrote:
It is discouraging, but it is really true as far as I am aware
I don't know about anyone who didn't get into progaming by rapping soloQ
People say diamondprox was recruited when he was 1700 elo but he probably got vouched for by Genja BECAUSE he rapped pretty damn hard in them soloQs.

Not everyone is looking to get into progaming. Ofc nobody ended up as a progamer just playing normals/ranked 5s, but being serious about improving does not necessarily mean that's your goal. And for something in between I don't think that you won't see improvement playing things other than solo queue if you enjoy them more.
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