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Ok I have a legit question that is sort of related to this.
I have a friend who I introduced to the game, and as with anyone who I"ve introduced I made a fresh account so I could level with him w/o him having to face my normal matchmaking mmr. When he got to 30 I just got really frustrated with playing with him, not because I cared that we lost, in fact we did decent even if I would play on my older account, but it got to the point where if I didn't tell him, be here or lets do this, he just had no game sense.
I tried to talk him into playing solo q or even solo normals while I was at work so he could develop his own mind for the game, but he straight up had no interest, outside of playing with friends he just didn't enjoy the game and for me, he really liked playing with me and my main duo partner but for us it was really annoying because it felt like we were directing traffic 24/7. I wouldn't say we've had a 'falling out' we are still friends, but we don't play league together, and he pretty much dropped it outside of the occasional aram q (which I do play with him if I'm on)
is there anything I could have done differently?
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On July 24 2013 06:24 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 06:20 Requizen wrote:On July 24 2013 06:18 Slusher wrote:
is anyone actually arguing that doing 100% of one and 0% of the other is right in all situations for all people, because if they are that's retarded.
I honestly don't even think you guys are arguing about anything anymore I don't think so either. I think I might get a cat, thoughts? If you have roommates; don't get a pet. If by yourself; knock yourself out. Currently living with a roommate who does a shit job taking care of her dogs; fucking making it hell for me. Chew'd/slobbered all over my shoes earlier today.
Can't DuoQ. Gotta solo-room man.
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On July 24 2013 05:30 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 05:30 Requizen wrote:
The point of League is to make friends
<3 How do you make friends if you uninstall? 
By seeing who wants you to come back.
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On July 24 2013 06:27 nafta wrote:
You could always get a guinea pig if you have roommates.You'd make artosis proud.
No roommates, so alone ;_;
At the same time though, I would feel bad about working my 9-5 job every day and leaving a pet alone until I get back, so I dunno.
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On July 24 2013 06:28 Slusher wrote:
Ok I have a legit question that is sort of related to this.
I have a friend who I introduced to the game, and as with anyone who I"ve introduced I made a fresh account so I could level with him w/o him having to face my normal matchmaking mmr. When he got to 30 I just got really frustrated with playing with him, not because I cared that we lost, in fact we did decent even if I would play on my older account, but it got to the point where if I didn't tell him, be here or lets do this, he just had no game sense.
I tried to talk him into playing solo q or even solo normals while I was at work so he could develop his own mind for the game, but he straight up had no interest, outside of playing with friends he just didn't enjoy the game and for me, he really liked playing with me and my main duo partner but for us it was really annoying because it felt like we were directing traffic 24/7. I wouldn't say we've had a 'falling out' we are still friends, but we don't play league together, and he pretty much dropped it outside of the occasional aram q (which I do play with him if I'm on)
is there anything I could have done differently?
tell him to ask why. if you tell him to do something make him ask you why.
On July 24 2013 06:28 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 06:27 nafta wrote:
You could always get a guinea pig if you have roommates.You'd make artosis proud. No roommates, so alone ;_; At the same time though, I would feel bad about working my 9-5 job every day and leaving a pet alone until I get back, so I dunno.
Become this guy
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On July 24 2013 06:28 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 06:27 nafta wrote:
You could always get a guinea pig if you have roommates.You'd make artosis proud. No roommates, so alone ;_; At the same time though, I would feel bad about working my 9-5 job every day and leaving a pet alone until I get back, so I dunno.
Get 2 problem solved.
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On July 24 2013 06:28 Slusher wrote:
Ok I have a legit question that is sort of related to this.
I have a friend who I introduced to the game, and as with anyone who I"ve introduced I made a fresh account so I could level with him w/o him having to face my normal matchmaking mmr. When he got to 30 I just got really frustrated with playing with him, not because I cared that we lost, in fact we did decent even if I would play on my older account, but it got to the point where if I didn't tell him, be here or lets do this, he just had no game sense.
I tried to talk him into playing solo q or even solo normals while I was at work so he could develop his own mind for the game, but he straight up had no interest, outside of playing with friends he just didn't enjoy the game and for me, he really liked playing with me and my main duo partner but for us it was really annoying because it felt like we were directing traffic 24/7. I wouldn't say we've had a 'falling out' we are still friends, but we don't play league together, and he pretty much dropped it outside of the occasional aram q (which I do play with him if I'm on)
is there anything I could have done differently?
Drop him as friend; and find Diamond 1 players to make ranked 5's team with. hue.
No, seriously though. He's probably just a casual LoL gamer, if that's the case just troll around with him. Don't worry about winning. Just play silly shit with him, like Alistar + J4 Botlane, just make the experience more enjoyable rather than trying to win.
On July 24 2013 06:28 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 06:27 nafta wrote:
You could always get a guinea pig if you have roommates.You'd make artosis proud. No roommates, so alone ;_; At the same time though, I would feel bad about working my 9-5 job every day and leaving a pet alone until I get back, so I dunno.
My roommate is worse; she's gone from 12pm to 2 am; with work/doing other stuff. absolute shitter of a person. She doesn't even sweep the common areas for the dog hairs. She's so deluded that she thinks she's a "good dog owner".
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The guy probably just has no interest in getting better and just enjoys hanging with you guys.If he doesn't find the game fun to play by himself then he just likes your company.
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On July 24 2013 06:01 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 05:59 TheYango wrote:On July 24 2013 05:54 Scip wrote:
I can't emphasise how much playing ranked5s retarded my growth as a player
just people with wrong opinions forcing wrong playstyles on you giving you wrong advice picking wrong champions making wrong calls and blaming their lack of success on irrelevant small failures.
Text above describes the most successful team I've been in so far.
it took me like 2 weeks of really really painful soloQ just to regain the knowledge I had and get back to the point where I was before I started playing with them. Well Scip, you're someone who I'd consider a fairly successful solo queue player who's more or less reconciled yourself with the mindset required to be successful in solo queue. There are a lot of LoL players who play ranked who are not this way, and will never be this way, and if they're getting ragey and frustrated every solo queue game, they're not going to improve quickly either. it also doesn't help that so few people have actual experience with ranked 5's in League that they are likely going to have a poor mindset going into it and end up like scip. in a team that fails to recognize why they aren't improving.
I know I'd be unable to manage a 5s by myself. If we had a leader/manager/boss/whatever with a higher game knowledge than me, I could provide an additional point of view, have brainstorming sessions, etc.
But if I was the "best" out of the 5s, apart from looking a bit at everyone's weaknesses and playstyle, and try to maybe make them mesh/tell everyone what they could improve, I'd be unable to just draw a plan, determine what is the priority to improve between X's personal skills, or a flaw within the team as a whole, etc. Because I'd never be able to know "What if I'm entirely wrong regarding the reason we lost this game?" and in the long run we would probably stagnate a bunch.
Which kinda comes back to Yango's argument that we improve faster/better with people better than us.
'cept you have to have people able to progress by themselves otherwise you'd never push the boundaries. But I'm not one of them.
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[QUOTE]On July 24 2013 06:29 PrinceXizor wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 24 2013 06:28 Slusher wrote:
Ok I have a legit question that is sort of related to this.
I have a friend who I introduced to the game, and as with anyone who I"ve introduced I made a fresh account so I could level with him w/o him having to face my normal matchmaking mmr. When he got to 30 I just got really frustrated with playing with him, not because I cared that we lost, in fact we did decent even if I would play on my older account, but it got to the point where if I didn't tell him, be here or lets do this, he just had no game sense.
I tried to talk him into playing solo q or even solo normals while I was at work so he could develop his own mind for the game, but he straight up had no interest, outside of playing with friends he just didn't enjoy the game and for me, he really liked playing with me and my main duo partner but for us it was really annoying because it felt like we were directing traffic 24/7. I wouldn't say we've had a 'falling out' we are still friends, but we don't play league together, and he pretty much dropped it outside of the occasional aram q (which I do play with him if I'm on)
is there anything I could have done differently?[/QUOTE]
tell him to ask why. if you tell him to do something make him ask you why.
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we're way past that
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For those who havent seen, the Ryze MS buff that went along with the range nerfs has been reverted.
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On July 24 2013 06:31 cLutZ wrote:
For those who havent seen, the Ryze MS buff that went along with the range nerfs has been reverted.
The MS buff removed? Or Range + MS change revereted?
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Thank god. Reddit had a link to this stuff on another site and broke the ever loving crap out of it.
XCOM Cait.
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I still think Vi and Cait need to have a theme skin together.
+ Show Spoiler +Realest OTP in League ![[image loading]](http://24.media.tumblr.com/5c113711124b5fa3bd6e4a6cc57026a7/tumblr_mqd69q6ZZH1sbl19fo1_500.jpg)
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On July 24 2013 06:11 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 06:08 wei2coolman wrote:On July 24 2013 06:03 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 24 2013 06:02 wei2coolman wrote:On July 24 2013 05:59 TheYango wrote:On July 24 2013 05:54 Scip wrote:
I can't emphasise how much playing ranked5s retarded my growth as a player
just people with wrong opinions forcing wrong playstyles on you giving you wrong advice picking wrong champions making wrong calls and blaming their lack of success on irrelevant small failures.
Text above describes the most successful team I've been in so far.
it took me like 2 weeks of really really painful soloQ just to regain the knowledge I had and get back to the point where I was before I started playing with them. Well Scip, you're someone who I'd consider a fairly successful solo queue player who's more or less reconciled yourself with the mindset required to be successful in solo queue. There are a lot of LoL players who play ranked who are not this way, and will never be this way, and if they're getting ragey and frustrated every solo queue game, they're not going to improve quickly either. I think people without the right solo queue mindset; isn't going to bring the right mindset in 5's either. Still going to blame others, and not accept any of their own faults. if you don't understand what is your fault when 4 other people agree that something was a mistake. then playing solo queue isn't going to help that person. that guys just a dick. it doesn't mean the 4 other people should give up and go to solo queue. No, but the player isn't going to improve either way. Remember this whole argument/debate originated from the idea 'oh solo queue ain't helping me'. Which is wrong. Once you've accepted that solo queue can improve you as a player, then that's when you can improve in a 5's setting as well. No point in dragging 4 other people down with you if you can't prove to be a player with right mentality. On July 24 2013 06:04 TheYango wrote:
Is it really strange to think that someone who is obstinate and unforgiving with 4 random players will be more calm and introspective with 4 players he knows? It's not outrageous to believe that someone will think or behave differently among friends than among randoms. Yes. okay yeah, if you are willing to look at your mistakes to improve and accept your mistakes you can learn from solo queue and a team environment. but the team environment is more efficient to learn from, and thus better. Scip is the exception not the rule. we have years and years of proof within dota of this. and league isn't inherently such a different game that it doesn't apply.
there is no rule because there was no solo q for dota (that matched you with the best players) you had to play inhouse leagues or whatever to get good games. You can play solo q and climb the ladder and play with the best players that way. There has been no case where a bunch of players who sucked at solo q dominated as a team. even the case everyone touts as diamondprox beign 1700, by the time m5 had their first tournament diamondprox was rank 3 in EUW solo q or osmething with 70%~ winrate
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On July 24 2013 06:40 Requizen wrote:I still think Vi and Cait need to have a theme skin together. + Show Spoiler +Realest OTP in League
Yes please!
also you should def buy a guinea pig
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