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Canada12016 Posts
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
It's possible, and I don't see what you can learn in Solo Q that you can't learn in Arranged 5s. The real problem is just getting 5 people together, which involves a lot of scheduling issues, especially if you have people that aren't sure how seriously they want to play the game... and they kind of look at their Silver/Gold solo ranking and think that they're not good enough to play 5s, instead of treating 5s as just another ranking. | ||
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
On July 23 2013 03:48 kainzero wrote: I've also encountered some people in normals who were Silver in Solo Q but Challenger in Arranged 5s. It's possible, and I don't see what you can learn in Solo Q that you can't learn in Arranged 5s. The real problem is just getting 5 people together, which involves a lot of scheduling issues, especially if you have people that aren't sure how seriously they want to play the game... and they kind of look at their Silver/Gold solo ranking and think that they're not good enough to play 5s, instead of treating 5s as just another ranking. I know people like that too. Its just they never play on the Arranged 5s team while there are 5 high ELO players that always do. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 23 2013 03:48 kainzero wrote: I've also encountered some people in normals who were Silver in Solo Q but Challenger in Arranged 5s. It's possible, and I don't see what you can learn in Solo Q that you can't learn in Arranged 5s. The real problem is just getting 5 people together, which involves a lot of scheduling issues, especially if you have people that aren't sure how seriously they want to play the game... and they kind of look at their Silver/Gold solo ranking and think that they're not good enough to play 5s, instead of treating 5s as just another ranking. I think that also has to do with how baron the arranged 5 scene is in most regions. Solo queue is the way to go if you want to get picked up by a team. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On July 23 2013 03:49 ReketSomething wrote: I know people like that too. Its just they never play on the Arranged 5s team while there are 5 high ELO players that always do. Or they purposefully tank their MMR/don't play solo queue and only play normals outside of Team Ranked. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
I'm assuming the only reason you'd want to reach Diamond1/Challenger in 5s is to compete in the amateur circuit of course. In which case, yeah, the most reliable way to do it would be to grind up solo queue unless you just happen to have four similarly talented friends with the same ambitions. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23442 Posts
its very possible that you have people getting carried in your team but they've been doing the same things for so long you don't see them as bad things, that's going to be frustrating if you're playing well. obviously if you are a pro team you want to play ranked 5's all the time because everyone has already played thousands of solo q games and dont need practice, but if you wnat to get good i don't see why you shouldnt play them both equally to get a good perspective | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3691287 | ||
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
On July 23 2013 03:51 wei2coolman wrote: I think that also has to do with how baron the arranged 5 scene is in most regions. Solo queue is the way to go if you want to get picked up by a team. Sonofa... | ||
ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
My ranked 5s team started out as a bunch of gold/silver players, but we hit plat in 5's pretty fast. We improved individually too, but we hit diamond before any of us were past plat 2 in yoloQ. Now we're those assholes who just play allmid because we can't drop out of diamond, huehuehue | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On July 23 2013 04:01 Slayer91 wrote: i dont agree that ranked 5's is ideal, you dont get the same variety of people and situations. If you don't carry games as jungler but your laners are generally very solid and dont need much ganks it could be you're just getting carried and lose solo queue because you aren't that graet a jungler early game for example. its very possible that you have people getting carried in your team but they've been doing the same things for so long you don't see them as bad things, that's going to be frustrating if you're playing well. obviously if you are a pro team you want to play ranked 5's all the time because everyone has already played thousands of solo q games and dont need practice, but if you wnat to get good i don't see why you shouldnt play them both equally to get a good perspective Depending on your team you can experiment with different things, you don't necessarily have to aim to win, nor do you have to view winning as the ultimate goal. I think we've all played games where we've felt that we didn't deserve the win, and you can still learn a lot even if you've won. Either way, you say to play them both equally, and I think that's really the big problem. There aren't many people out there who are arranged 5 junkies who eschew solo queue, but more people should be looking for and playing 5s even though they're not diamond/challenger. Just to learn, man... | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On July 23 2013 04:10 Diamond wrote: Ass ton of tentative changes on the PBE, reading them now. At first glance looks like a lot of stuff they want to clean up before worlds, only 1/10th through however. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3691287 What the living shit? That aegis/locket change. Sure they were bought way too often on several champs (supp/jungle near 100%, certain tops too) but what else are you going to fuckin' build? And the jungle changes again too, seems really derpy | ||
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Mauzel
United States421 Posts
On July 23 2013 04:10 Diamond wrote: Ass ton of tentative changes on the PBE, reading them now. At first glance looks like a lot of stuff they want to clean up before worlds, only 1/10th through however. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3691287 I like the armor changes to tower. Seems like a reasonable change that won't invalidate the strategy but will make it weaker. That said not sure it's going to be enough. Denying farm from a hero in a 2v1 and a slightly slower but still fast tower kill seems like a good enough reason to continue to lane swap... especially if you're against a hero that is bad in 1v2 situations. Edit: I mean you still have the same problem with diversity of viable champions. How does this fix that? I am not sure where the line is that says going into a 2v1 is no longer worth it. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On July 23 2013 04:19 Capped wrote: What the living shit? That aegis/locket change. Sure they were bought way too often on several champs (supp/jungle near 100%, certain tops too) but what else are you going to fuckin' build? And the jungle changes again too, seems really derpy The buff camp exp changes are interesting, it'll actually make invading slightly less devestating on the defender's levels. I don't understand the changes for the small camps, it's just kind of pointless since no one starts Wraiths/Wolves anymore. Maybe it's to further disincentive taking doubles? Seems dumb. I like the new GA. It makes it an even better one-shop defense item for squishy characters, rather than being good armor, good active, and only decent MR. Will be better to buy Negatron -> GA in some lanes, NMM -> GA could leave you somewhat vulnerable. Spellbreaker is pretty niche, we talked about it a bit. Spectre's Cowl is kinda strange. I feel like they could have just adjusted BVeil and SV rather than just making a new item, but whatever. | ||
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
Summary: All camps outside of buff camps will now spawn later in the game. Some experience has been moved back from the Ancient Golem and Lizard Elder to their Young Lizard spawns so now junglers will need to clear the full camp in order to hit level 2, as opposed to simply killing the buff monster. This is going to be hilarious. So many junglers won't hit level 2 now hahahaha. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On July 23 2013 04:28 ReketSomething wrote: This is going to be hilarious. So many junglers won't hit level 2 now hahahaha. No it just means you have to clear all of a buff camp for lvl 2 instead of doing the big buff and then going to take a dump on the enemy jungler (I'm looking at you, Nunu) | ||
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
On July 23 2013 04:30 xes wrote: No it just means you have to clear all of a buff camp for lvl 2 instead of doing the big buff and then going to take a dump on the enemy jungler (I'm looking at you, Nunu) I meant the mid / top / bot lane taking your crap on accident. | ||
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