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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 19 2013 00:05 GMT
#2801
On July 19 2013 08:50 arnath wrote:
Does the Muramana passive (mana to damage) work on Jayce's Shock Blast?


It's not single target, so I'd say no
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 19 2013 00:09 GMT
#2802
On July 19 2013 08:50 Dark_Chill wrote:
With all the efficiency talk, I went and looked again at the gold-efficiency on some stats. It's weird to see some stuff normalized, and other things not. Mr and armor on the second level base items are pretty good, but other things are just pretty bad. Giant's belt seems so inappropriately priced when I see the gold value. Also, shouldn't AP be more cost efficient than AD, considering how AD works with several different stats to be good?


AP is almost half the cost of AD per point, and MR is more expensive than armor + more champs have armor/lvl.

Whats your question?
Freeeeeeedom
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 19 2013 00:17 GMT
#2803
Remember guys; thank VES for all the incoming TL LoL bans.
muwahahahahahaha.
liftlift > tsm
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 19 2013 00:22 GMT
#2804
[image loading]
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
MyNameIsAlex
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece827 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 00:27:27
July 19 2013 00:26 GMT
#2805
On July 19 2013 09:09 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 08:50 Dark_Chill wrote:
With all the efficiency talk, I went and looked again at the gold-efficiency on some stats. It's weird to see some stuff normalized, and other things not. Mr and armor on the second level base items are pretty good, but other things are just pretty bad. Giant's belt seems so inappropriately priced when I see the gold value. Also, shouldn't AP be more cost efficient than AD, considering how AD works with several different stats to be good?


AP is almost half the cost of AD per point, and MR is more expensive than armor + more champs have armor/lvl.

Whats your question?

i am pretty sure that MR and armor have the same price @ 18g/ point.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 19 2013 00:30 GMT
#2806
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: does i reinstall

only if that idiot wave plays with you (19)
 
59%

no (4)
 
13%

no (4)
 
13%

no (3)
 
9%

maybe (2)
 
6%

32 total votes

Your vote: does i reinstall

(Vote): no
(Vote): no
(Vote): no
(Vote): maybe
(Vote): only if that idiot wave plays with you


It's your boy Guzma!
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 19 2013 00:30 GMT
#2807
On July 19 2013 09:26 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 09:09 cLutZ wrote:
On July 19 2013 08:50 Dark_Chill wrote:
With all the efficiency talk, I went and looked again at the gold-efficiency on some stats. It's weird to see some stuff normalized, and other things not. Mr and armor on the second level base items are pretty good, but other things are just pretty bad. Giant's belt seems so inappropriately priced when I see the gold value. Also, shouldn't AP be more cost efficient than AD, considering how AD works with several different stats to be good?


AP is almost half the cost of AD per point, and MR is more expensive than armor + more champs have armor/lvl.

Whats your question?

i am pretty sure that MR and armor have the same price @ 18g/ point.

Confirmed, is exact same price.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 19 2013 00:32 GMT
#2808
On July 19 2013 09:30 Requizen wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: does i reinstall

only if that idiot wave plays with you (19)
 
59%

no (4)
 
13%

no (4)
 
13%

no (3)
 
9%

maybe (2)
 
6%

32 total votes

Your vote: does i reinstall

(Vote): no
(Vote): no
(Vote): no
(Vote): maybe
(Vote): only if that idiot wave plays with you



How long since the uninstall? I think one or two people had a bet going regarding that.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
July 19 2013 00:42 GMT
#2809
On July 19 2013 09:26 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 09:09 cLutZ wrote:
On July 19 2013 08:50 Dark_Chill wrote:
With all the efficiency talk, I went and looked again at the gold-efficiency on some stats. It's weird to see some stuff normalized, and other things not. Mr and armor on the second level base items are pretty good, but other things are just pretty bad. Giant's belt seems so inappropriately priced when I see the gold value. Also, shouldn't AP be more cost efficient than AD, considering how AD works with several different stats to be good?


AP is almost half the cost of AD per point, and MR is more expensive than armor + more champs have armor/lvl.

Whats your question?

i am pretty sure that MR and armor have the same price @ 18g/ point.

MR and armor base items have the same cost per point, but completed items have more armor than MR (armor has higher "slot-efficiency")
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
July 19 2013 00:45 GMT
#2810
On July 19 2013 09:09 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 08:50 Dark_Chill wrote:
With all the efficiency talk, I went and looked again at the gold-efficiency on some stats. It's weird to see some stuff normalized, and other things not. Mr and armor on the second level base items are pretty good, but other things are just pretty bad. Giant's belt seems so inappropriately priced when I see the gold value. Also, shouldn't AP be more cost efficient than AD, considering how AD works with several different stats to be good?


AP is almost half the cost of AD per point, and MR is more expensive than armor + more champs have armor/lvl.

Whats your question?


When you look at the items next in line, it looks weird. Gold Efficiency
How much better a blast wand is than amp tone is really different from how much better pickaxe is from long sword. Giant's belt as well is not all that much better than ruby crystal.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 19 2013 00:56 GMT
#2811
On July 19 2013 08:39 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 08:31 TheYango wrote:
The thing is, for most junglers, buying lifesteal is just a regen stat because they don't get enough damage for it to turn into a combat stat like it does on ADCs.

TBH this is the problem that has always plagued the item. ADCs and bruisers buy enough damage for lifesteal to be a combat stat so fundamentally that stat mix is better for a laner. So any iteration of Wriggles that was good for junglers was too good for laners.


We could take down the LS, and rebalance it into more armor. The point I was trying to make, is that if laners never buy it, junglers never will either, because after the first clear + ganks into cleaning up a few camps before backing, there really isn't anything special that a jungler needs.

I agree. I was responding to Sylver (in his statement that you can't assess cost-efficiency of regen stats when the same really applies to lifesteal as well at least in terms of junglers), but your post came in the middle.
Moderator
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
July 19 2013 01:01 GMT
#2812
Off-topic but, do you guys remember which year and tournament it was that had the intro of Boxer sitting on a throne at the end?
Bronze player stuck in platinum
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
July 19 2013 01:03 GMT
#2813
On July 19 2013 10:01 Nos- wrote:
Off-topic but, do you guys remember which year and tournament it was that had the intro of Boxer sitting on a throne at the end?

Incruit OSL 2008?

ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 19 2013 01:04 GMT
#2814
On July 19 2013 09:17 wei2coolman wrote:
Remember guys; thank VES for all the incoming TL LoL bans.
muwahahahahahaha.

Pretty sad I wasn't around for all of that.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
July 19 2013 01:05 GMT
#2815
On July 19 2013 10:03 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 10:01 Nos- wrote:
Off-topic but, do you guys remember which year and tournament it was that had the intro of Boxer sitting on a throne at the end?

Incruit OSL 2008?

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn348dcFw7I

OOO YES I LOVE YOU MOONBEAR
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 19 2013 01:11 GMT
#2816
Oh shit, Full Metal Pantheon on sale.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
July 19 2013 01:18 GMT
#2817
On July 19 2013 09:30 Requizen wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: does i reinstall

only if that idiot wave plays with you (19)
 
59%

no (4)
 
13%

no (4)
 
13%

no (3)
 
9%

maybe (2)
 
6%

32 total votes

Your vote: does i reinstall

(Vote): no
(Vote): no
(Vote): no
(Vote): maybe
(Vote): only if that idiot wave plays with you



Yes. If anything so I can stop picking up your FWOTD for you. Also, I ran out of your money to spend.

On July 19 2013 07:42 TheYango wrote:
If we're talking about item types, there needs to be more headgear and gloves.

There are only 2 types of gloves--Brawler's and Iceborn, 3 if you count the X-Man Claws.


You think that's bad? You missed the real travesty.

ZERO PANTS
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
July 19 2013 01:31 GMT
#2818
On July 19 2013 10:18 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 09:30 Requizen wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: does i reinstall

only if that idiot wave plays with you (19)
 
59%

no (4)
 
13%

no (4)
 
13%

no (3)
 
9%

maybe (2)
 
6%

32 total votes

Your vote: does i reinstall

(Vote): no
(Vote): no
(Vote): no
(Vote): maybe
(Vote): only if that idiot wave plays with you



Yes. If anything so I can stop picking up your FWOTD for you. Also, I ran out of your money to spend.

Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 07:42 TheYango wrote:
If we're talking about item types, there needs to be more headgear and gloves.

There are only 2 types of gloves--Brawler's and Iceborn, 3 if you count the X-Man Claws.


You think that's bad? You missed the real travesty.

ZERO PANTS

Dude, pant is a turnoff.
The reason LoL is more successful than other games because this game has NO PANTS.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 01:32:26
July 19 2013 01:32 GMT
#2819
On July 19 2013 10:31 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 10:18 Gahlo wrote:
On July 19 2013 09:30 Requizen wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: does i reinstall

only if that idiot wave plays with you (19)
 
59%

no (4)
 
13%

no (4)
 
13%

no (3)
 
9%

maybe (2)
 
6%

32 total votes

Your vote: does i reinstall

(Vote): no
(Vote): no
(Vote): no
(Vote): maybe
(Vote): only if that idiot wave plays with you



Yes. If anything so I can stop picking up your FWOTD for you. Also, I ran out of your money to spend.

On July 19 2013 07:42 TheYango wrote:
If we're talking about item types, there needs to be more headgear and gloves.

There are only 2 types of gloves--Brawler's and Iceborn, 3 if you count the X-Man Claws.


You think that's bad? You missed the real travesty.

ZERO PANTS

Dude, pant is a turnoff.
The reason LoL is more successful than other games because this game has NO PANTS.

Suing Riot for putting a naked man into the game. Corruption doesn't count.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 19 2013 01:41 GMT
#2820
On July 19 2013 09:17 wei2coolman wrote:
Remember guys; thank VES for all the incoming TL LoL bans.
muwahahahahahaha.


Were people betting against us in a game against clfree??
Jk <3
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
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