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nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
July 08 2013 08:29 GMT
#7041
Gragas is fine. Underrated as heck. AS slow not tied to MS slow is ridiculous since it's immune to the effects of Tenacity. Throw in melee base stats, free movement and AoE displacement and you have a really good champ.
cool beans
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-08 08:59:31
July 08 2013 08:46 GMT
#7042
On July 08 2013 16:27 Capped wrote:
Ive never used reddit in my life. Not for any game not just LoL.

I mean aside from the odd link on the forums etc.

Is it really that good a source of information on LoL / Esports? Should i start using it?


hell no. the vote system is straight up rigged so that it shuttles garbage to the front page, it's not a straightforward +1/-1 and there's more wrong with it than the 'obvious' stuff. Basically anything that takes more than a half second to process and consider automagically gets thrown in the dumpster because of underneath the hood stuff like vote quality being indirectly related to time since submission. If you read a subforum that doesn't allow images you just get the next worst thing which is sensationalism and puns. If you move down another moderation level which hardly any of them do you still have the pervasive problem that the voting system is an engine for confirmation bias. opinions most people don't agree with just get automatically hidden.

the issue you guys are discussing is not just one of community appeal and fear of reading, reddit is specifically geared to push low quality, fast consumption information that comes in tiny little pieces like popcorn. You guys are wasting your time trying to think about how you can make TL style content appealing to reddit. I can't emphasize enough how worthless it will be in gaining an audience.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
July 08 2013 08:55 GMT
#7043
On July 08 2013 17:28 Fionn wrote:
Sent in Riot writer application in. Hopefully my past two years of writing for TeamLiquid will turn into something cool.

that timing :D
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
July 08 2013 08:58 GMT
#7044
On July 08 2013 17:55 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 17:28 Fionn wrote:
Sent in Riot writer application in. Hopefully my past two years of writing for TeamLiquid will turn into something cool.

that timing :D


what timing?
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
July 08 2013 09:04 GMT
#7045
Ok I'm having big issues with the servers right now and was wondering if anyone else was having them.

I will queue up for a game normally and go through champ select normally but during the loading screen it will say I can't connect to the server. THen after a few retries it might connect or might just load half way then force close League.

This only happens like every 3-4 games but it's fucking annoying because it's happened in 2 of my promo series games so far. It just started today as well.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 08 2013 09:09 GMT
#7046
On July 08 2013 14:07 Simberto wrote:
Also, no thinking you are better then you actually are is really useful.

Self-deception is an evolutionary advantage nowadays.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35159 Posts
July 08 2013 09:13 GMT
#7047
On July 08 2013 18:09 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 14:07 Simberto wrote:
Also, no thinking you are better then you actually are is really useful.

Self-deception is an evolutionary advantage nowadays.

"Look how evolutionarily advantage I am with my humbleness!"
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
July 08 2013 09:13 GMT
#7048
On July 08 2013 17:58 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 17:55 Chexx wrote:
On July 08 2013 17:28 Fionn wrote:
Sent in Riot writer application in. Hopefully my past two years of writing for TeamLiquid will turn into something cool.

that timing :D


what timing?

my pm with your post
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35159 Posts
July 08 2013 09:15 GMT
#7049
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11554 Posts
July 08 2013 09:18 GMT
#7050
On July 08 2013 18:04 Shotcoder wrote:
Ok I'm having big issues with the servers right now and was wondering if anyone else was having them.

I will queue up for a game normally and go through champ select normally but during the loading screen it will say I can't connect to the server. THen after a few retries it might connect or might just load half way then force close League.

This only happens like every 3-4 games but it's fucking annoying because it's happened in 2 of my promo series games so far. It just started today as well.


I had something similar before, also without ever being able to connect. The reason was that my ISP sucks and apparently either something broke somewhere or they accidentally blacklisted the riot game servers (they were not really clear here, and they are lying bastards so i wouldn't trust a word they said anyways), which are apparently somehow different from the servers you use in the selection client.
Railgan
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland1507 Posts
July 08 2013 09:36 GMT
#7051
On July 08 2013 18:15 Gahlo wrote:
[image loading]

I don't get the whole Karma"whoring" I mean can people even see eachothers imaginy internetpoints? or do they just feel better about themselves when others give them an UP Arrow?
I myself sometimes read /r/gaming starcraft leagueoflegends(despite me not playing it) todayilearned worldnews news and some others. But this really confuses me. I don't want to go too far offtopic though
Grandmaster Zerg from Switzerland!!! www.twitch.tv/railgan // www.twitter.com/railgansc // www.youtube.com/c/railgansc
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 08 2013 09:39 GMT
#7052
On July 08 2013 16:53 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 16:49 sob3k wrote:
On July 08 2013 16:41 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Gragas, according to LoLking atm, is like the 8th lowest win rate % champ. Has he gotten nerfed in recent months? I just played a game with him and he felt the same as I left him. Is it more about the meta w/ the number of AD bruisers he is likely to face or something or has he fallen out of favor so just nobody plays him worth a damn anymore?


He's never had a very high winrate as far as I know. He's much stronger in organized play than in soloque for a few reasons.

1. He's got good burst but really bad sustained damage in teamfights, teams have to instantly capitalize on his combo.
2. He doesnt carry too well unless you get obscenely fed, you do your QR and that has to be enough damage to win the teamfight. If it is, great. If not, then there isn't much else you can do.
3. His barrel is relatively hard to hit, hard champs lose because the average player sucks (see syndra).


His win rate was insanely high after Riot foolishly buffed him like a year ago. It was when they made his E 1050 range and 50 mana. Then they nerfed it a bit and then they nerfed his ult too when the realized how good it already. I'll never say he's a godly champ because, as you point out, you get to Q+r (which is really good) but then his cd's get in the way and E'ing into the team is dangerous. It's just weird that he's not seen with a bit more success given that he really isn't that hard to play compared to some other popular champs (orianna, lee sin, etc).

he was good only because dfg was broken as fk and made every ap OP, he got nerfed on top of dfg being reworked and hes mediocre at best compared to other picks, even scarra says gragas isnt good atm
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 08 2013 09:49 GMT
#7053
On July 08 2013 18:39 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 16:53 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On July 08 2013 16:49 sob3k wrote:
On July 08 2013 16:41 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Gragas, according to LoLking atm, is like the 8th lowest win rate % champ. Has he gotten nerfed in recent months? I just played a game with him and he felt the same as I left him. Is it more about the meta w/ the number of AD bruisers he is likely to face or something or has he fallen out of favor so just nobody plays him worth a damn anymore?


He's never had a very high winrate as far as I know. He's much stronger in organized play than in soloque for a few reasons.

1. He's got good burst but really bad sustained damage in teamfights, teams have to instantly capitalize on his combo.
2. He doesnt carry too well unless you get obscenely fed, you do your QR and that has to be enough damage to win the teamfight. If it is, great. If not, then there isn't much else you can do.
3. His barrel is relatively hard to hit, hard champs lose because the average player sucks (see syndra).


His win rate was insanely high after Riot foolishly buffed him like a year ago. It was when they made his E 1050 range and 50 mana. Then they nerfed it a bit and then they nerfed his ult too when the realized how good it already. I'll never say he's a godly champ because, as you point out, you get to Q+r (which is really good) but then his cd's get in the way and E'ing into the team is dangerous. It's just weird that he's not seen with a bit more success given that he really isn't that hard to play compared to some other popular champs (orianna, lee sin, etc).

he was good only because dfg was broken as fk and made every ap OP, he got nerfed on top of dfg being reworked and hes mediocre at best compared to other picks, even scarra says gragas isnt good atm


Well that and he got a brutal nerf to his ult CD, 20 seconds on the CD. That was what made him nuts, it was up all the time which made him impossible to jump (janna ult with incredibly damage every 30 seconds), and he could destroy every skirmish or teamfight. Also QR is one of best baron steals in the game.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 08 2013 09:55 GMT
#7054
On July 08 2013 12:32 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 11:15 Cheap0 wrote:
There's a bug where if Morgana hits a stealthed target with Dark Binding, it doesn't root them in place.

There might just be a bug with stealth and abilities affecting stealthed champions right now.

This bug used to occur in the past and I don't think anything is in the patch notes.

Riot should make sure to test stuff that's broken before.
And perhaps include all changes in the patch notes.

Here's another bug. I noticed as Ori on Saturday that many of my autos shot after moving failed. I thought it was just a bug with the champion.
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1htlbg/whats_with_all_the_aa_cancelling_at_the_moment/

It's variable depending on the auto animation, but a bunch of ranged champs have a few frames where the projectile goes and you can still cancel the auto by moving. From spamming Ori games recently it's true that it happened quite a bit, I'd attribute that to her slow pojectile (it doesn't happen near as much to me with Graves, who has less AS and a much faster projectile, I just cancel the aa outright if I mess up).

It's different from you killing the creep and not being credited the last hit, which happens quite a bunch too. @_@
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 08 2013 10:14 GMT
#7055
What the hell is zileans auto attack? I played a bot game of AD Zilean and it honestly just looks like he's throwing handfulls of shit.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
July 08 2013 10:21 GMT
#7056
On July 08 2013 19:14 sob3k wrote:
What the hell is zileans auto attack? I played a bot game of AD Zilean and it honestly just looks like he's throwing handfulls of shit.


gears, I think. Cause he's a clock.
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
July 08 2013 10:21 GMT
#7057
Clocks yo, tiny clocks.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11554 Posts
July 08 2013 10:22 GMT
#7058
He is probably throwing time or something along those lines. Try making a picture of time, it is not easy.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-08 10:37:17
July 08 2013 10:36 GMT
#7059
dude, im pretty sure its poop

[image loading]


it even splatters on impact...clocks dont splatter yo

[image loading]


Nasty ass zilean
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
July 08 2013 10:46 GMT
#7060
They're cogs.
Hey! How you doin'?
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