EPTOn June 13 2013 07:14 Requizen wrote:
Looks like Curse's *Gambit* didn't pay off.
Ouch
Looks like Curse's *Gambit* didn't pay off.
Ouch
10/10 would pun again.
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
10/10 would pun again. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On June 13 2013 07:15 Ketara wrote: You really think bot lane is still going to be doing golems when they spawn at 1:55? Typically when they did them at 1:40 they still missed 1 CS or so, if they start them at 1:55 they're gonna miss the entire first wave. I said this and I tested just to be sure.At worst you lose the gold but not the xp from the 2-nd creep.riot pls Before you ask with most bot lane combo not including blitz and nami.Forgot about alistar taric is bad. janna/sona/lulu/zyra/leona/elise+varus/graves/ez/cait/draven/tw/kog/vayne First creep usually dies at 2:13 from my test which is 18 seconds.How can you not kill golems and go to lane in 20 seconds? | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
On June 13 2013 06:51 HazMat wrote: "kom her igen." I sometimes forget how similar german is to english. I think it just has to do with the wall change this patch. Makes me worried about Lee Sin kicks :3 Pretty sure "kom her igen" is danish or maybe norwegian.  | ||
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Zooper31
United States5714 Posts
On June 13 2013 07:18 nafta wrote: I said this and I tested just to be sure.At worst you lose the gold but not the xp from the 2-nd creep.riot pls Before you ask with most bot lane combo not including blitz and nami.Forgot about alistar taric is bad. janna/sona/lulu/zyra/leona/elise+varus/graves/ez/cait/draven/tw/kog/vayne How exactly do you make up 15sec of time then out of nowhere magically? | ||
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danana
United States321 Posts
On June 13 2013 05:45 mordek wrote: Speaking of which my friend who's new to the game said this is the most challenging issue for him. He doesn't "get" how to build. I plan on just chatting with him on general rules of thumb with synergies with champ kits and enemy composition etc. but wondering if anyone's put together a framework for item buying decisions? Maybe this is an obvious thing to include in a guide for item buying, but I found that I got much better about item buying once I read the Riven guide, which described a lot of the thought process behind what stats you'd want to buy on Riven (scaling with raw AD, and resistances due to the shield). In hindsight it's pretty obvious but as a new player I had never really thought about these things, so I think it would be really helpful to describe how different champions scale well with different stats because now I at least can tell which items might be good on a particular champion, and more trying to decide which ones are good in which situations | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On June 13 2013 07:15 Ketara wrote: You really think bot lane is still going to be doing golems when they spawn at 1:55? Typically when they did them at 1:40 they still missed 1 CS or so, if they start them at 1:55 they're gonna miss the entire first wave. Nope, played 2 games today, first one I suspected their botlane (trolly Cait+Draven, 4+5 picks that bickered) did it, so next game as Lulu+Sivir we didn't miss more than 2 cs while still taking the golems and hitting 2 super fast. I was quite disappointed tbh, it doesn't change much. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On June 13 2013 07:22 Zooper31 wrote: How exactly do you make up 15sec of time then out of nowhere magically? Just try it if you don't believe me.I literally tried it ~30 times with different champs that me and my friend play and the absolute worst that happened is we lost only the gold from 2-nd creep. edit:The reason people lost this much before is because they helped jungler.Now the advantage is just too big to help jungler which is stupid since red team can't do wolves or take any xp.... | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 13 2013 07:22 Zooper31 wrote: How exactly do you make up 15sec of time then out of nowhere magically? Creeps don't die at an even rate. The less creeps there are, the slower creeps die. Particularly if the creeps split their damage, the second creep can die much slower than the first one. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On June 13 2013 07:32 nafta wrote: Btw why do creeps die in different order?Shouldn't they die the same way every game or do they bug or something while walking 0.o.I have always wondered. I remember seeing a thread showing that given enough time, due to the way creeps clash one side (I believe purple?) will begin to win in the sense that they'll kill the other side's creeps a little faster due to how they clash. This advantage is miniscule and takes a really really long time with absolutely no interference to occur though, so it's not really an issue in a game. Otherwise, how creeps clash and focus fire can be to some extent manipulated by the presence of champions in the lane and messing with their aggro/movement. It's hard to do and unreliable. At the end of the day, the order the creeps die in is mostly just random chance. With regards to what Yango and Zooper were talking about, yea the advantage for blue side is still there. If you do double golems fast enough, you can get to lane and only miss out on 1 cs and possibly none of the exp. Early on, creeps don't die very fast. Although I suspect this can be countered if the purple side bot lane sends the AD carry to lane immediately and only have the support help the jungler leash and have the AD carry just push. This way, the purple side AD carry hits 2 before blue side duo hits 2. It's still not ideal but it might help. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
i fully endorse a diamond only forum/thread then we can get all that trash out of this thread. lol | ||
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Parametric
Canada1261 Posts
On June 13 2013 08:31 kainzero wrote: aren't golems exp reduced anyway? i fully endorse a diamond only forum/thread then we can get all that trash out of this thread. lol What about the people who are in diamond but are trash, ie. me XD | ||
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Zooper31
United States5714 Posts
Then people will be classified into 2 categories, Diamond or Below. If you are below then you will have no right to say anything regarding strategy or have any kind of discussion or be taken seriously. It will just stifle discussion in the long run and boost people's ego's and we will just have a sort of class warfare amongst our community when we don't need it. TL didn't do it for BW where only Pros or B+ could talk or even for SC2 and only this certain division and above can discuss, why make a change and do it for LoL which isn't even "sponsored" by TL. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On June 13 2013 08:42 Zooper31 wrote: If we get a diamond only thread all the great talent we have will be taken out of here and put somewhere else where others can't contribute. Sure you can read but then we all just turn into lurkers and discussion stops if you can't post where it matters. Then people will be classified into 2 categories, Diamond or Below. If you are below then you will have no right to say anything regarding strategy or have any kind of discussion or be taken seriously. It will just stifle discussion in the long run and boost people's ego's and we will just have a sort of class warfare. reminds me of the douchebags on the sc2 forum wanting a master/gm icon for their posts stupid dick measuring contests l0l. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On June 13 2013 08:43 arb wrote: reminds me of the douchebags on the sc2 forum wanting a master/gm icon for their posts stupid dick measuring contests l0l. To be fair, it did make some sense during a time when the balance whining was getting ridiculous and you could tell that half the people doing it had no idea idea what they were talking about. | ||
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