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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 21:36:37
July 04 2013 21:36 GMT
#6421
On July 05 2013 05:30 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 05:19 JBright wrote:
I've gone through that thread and I'll say why I didn't hand out warnings to a lot of the reported posts. It is a LoL topic in the SC2 forum and it's not going to be moved here since it's been put in community news. People will vent and say stupid stuff but only the worst will be warned, or if they let it carry over and bring it here.

edit: that's just me. other mods may decide to do things differently.


Guess that makes sense. Rather contain the anger to one place than force it out and risk it spreading.

I always figure it's cause there's nothing wrong with expressing your opinion as long as you're not trying to start a flame war.

Besides, it lets me laugh at the hilarity of some people's thoughts regarding sc2/dota/lol/bw, etc...
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
July 04 2013 22:04 GMT
#6422
On July 05 2013 03:54 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
reading the mad in the kespa/spl to support LoL thread makes me lol.

should just post pictures of Reach in that thread
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wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
July 04 2013 22:13 GMT
#6423
On July 05 2013 04:46 HazMat wrote:

Oh my god
Show nested quote +
I think Sc2 is far harder then BW in every aspect that wasn't just that bad because they couldn't make it any better back then. Watching those old BW matches I am just struck by how slow all the units move and how few units there are to control, how few abilities they have to use etc.


I would just ban this person out of how stupid the comment is. "I watched a game that I never played before and honestly, shit looked easy." As someone who played and loved BW so much I just feel so irritated by that comment. Read quite a bit of the thread though and it doesn't seem that bad tbh. Only that comment seems to strike me as extremely ignorant.
BW -> League -> CSGO
Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
July 04 2013 22:24 GMT
#6424
On July 05 2013 07:13 wussleeQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 04:46 HazMat wrote:

Oh my god
I think Sc2 is far harder then BW in every aspect that wasn't just that bad because they couldn't make it any better back then. Watching those old BW matches I am just struck by how slow all the units move and how few units there are to control, how few abilities they have to use etc.


I would just ban this person out of how stupid the comment is. "I watched a game that I never played before and honestly, shit looked easy." As someone who played and loved BW so much I just feel so irritated by that comment. Read quite a bit of the thread though and it doesn't seem that bad tbh. Only that comment seems to strike me as extremely ignorant.


I stopped taking it seriously at "harder then"

LoL related: I have barely been playing over the past month but from my few games invades galore are back. Not sure if this has been discussed but: What are the thoughts of the community on starting with machete/ward/2 health pots vs machete/5 pots or even cloth/5 if you really want to fight the other jungler and you're getting madreds anyway? I saw a guy running lifesteal quints on nocturne (courtesy of lolnexus) and starting with a ward at his red. Does this make sense in solo queue? I tried doing the same thing on lee with 2 lifesteal quints and I barely missed 2 ganks with 2 hp so I really missed the extra 4 AD...
Diamond 4 Jungle/Support - http://www.twitch.tv/cr4zyh0r5e/c/3051057 Zyra support 101
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 04 2013 22:53 GMT
#6425
When is Karma gonna get competitive play? Cmon you stupid pros! That utility/mobility is crazzzzzzzy and she roams really well. Especially against skillshot mids she just crushes. You just wait for them to toss something out, shield and dodge it while zipping around like nunu on crack, then run up and leash mantraQ until they die. She would be so strong with an organized team.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
July 04 2013 23:16 GMT
#6426
On July 05 2013 07:53 sob3k wrote:
When is Karma gonna get competitive play? Cmon you stupid pros! That utility/mobility is crazzzzzzzy and she roams really well. Especially against skillshot mids she just crushes. You just wait for them to toss something out, shield and dodge it while zipping around like nunu on crack, then run up and leash mantraQ until they die. She would be so strong with an organized team.


I had a top karma destroy shen and help us win the game in 20 the other day in a stomp (diamond 1 game), was really surprised. The guy playing her seems to be doing pretty well with her in other games too on lolking.
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
fantasticoranges
Profile Joined July 2011
1327 Posts
July 04 2013 23:19 GMT
#6427
On July 05 2013 07:53 sob3k wrote:
When is Karma gonna get competitive play? Cmon you stupid pros! That utility/mobility is crazzzzzzzy and she roams really well. Especially against skillshot mids she just crushes. You just wait for them to toss something out, shield and dodge it while zipping around like nunu on crack, then run up and leash mantraQ until they die. She would be so strong with an organized team.


Do you have any vids on someone playing new karma?

Whenever I try her I feel like I could've picked so many other mids and done better, but that's just because I understand what to do with other champs, and I don't know what to do with karma.
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
July 04 2013 23:45 GMT
#6428
What I have been noticing is a slow influx of Trundle tops that destroy my team mates and they wonder why, still they fight him meele 1v1 xD

Any ideas if I have to face that thing (unlikely given I say I main support in lobby)
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 04 2013 23:46 GMT
#6429
On July 05 2013 08:16 Thermia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 07:53 sob3k wrote:
When is Karma gonna get competitive play? Cmon you stupid pros! That utility/mobility is crazzzzzzzy and she roams really well. Especially against skillshot mids she just crushes. You just wait for them to toss something out, shield and dodge it while zipping around like nunu on crack, then run up and leash mantraQ until they die. She would be so strong with an organized team.


I had a top karma destroy shen and help us win the game in 20 the other day in a stomp (diamond 1 game), was really surprised. The guy playing her seems to be doing pretty well with her in other games too on lolking.


yeah she ruins low range tops really hard, they can never touch you through leash, shield speed, and slow on Q. Trickier to play vs high burst with gap closer though (xin etc), especially since you want athenes so bad but need armor.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 23:48:31
July 04 2013 23:48 GMT
#6430
this probably isnt the place to ask, but does anyone have experiences with the Corsair K60 keyboard? product link
nanospartan
Profile Joined July 2011
649 Posts
July 05 2013 00:01 GMT
#6431
You guys convinced me,I bought pantheon. Was there any universal agreement on the best way to build panth build/masteries wise? Any special tips or tricks? :D
I was an athiest until I watched the Day[9] daily
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 01:48:53
July 05 2013 00:06 GMT
#6432
On July 05 2013 08:45 Usagi wrote:
What I have been noticing is a slow influx of Trundle tops that destroy my team mates and they wonder why, still they fight him meele 1v1 xD

Any ideas if I have to face that thing (unlikely given I say I main support in lobby)

I've only played against trundle top once in recent memory and I won most of my duels against him as Jax. I just walked up to him and pressed e and hit him. e is 3 seconds immunity to autos everywhere. If you hit 6 first then try to fight him with it. If he does back off. Basic top lane stuff.

As a general rule, he seems very vulnerable to crowd control since he is melee and has no gap closers. A slow would keep him away from your carries for a long time in teamfights.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 05 2013 00:10 GMT
#6433
That thread in the SC2 section is exactly why I don't want TL to officially support LoL.

All the TL LoL players that are not a part of this community post like shit in that thread. I'd rather posters like that not join this subcommunity.
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Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
July 05 2013 00:10 GMT
#6434
On July 05 2013 09:01 nanospartan wrote:
You guys convinced me,I bought pantheon. Was there any universal agreement on the best way to build panth build/masteries wise? Any special tips or tricks? :D


assassin panth with brut>lw>bt is generally the strongest way of building him to carry, tank pantheon is pretty garbage. Spam W as you ult onto/near someone and it feels like you can jump a tiny bit further. 21/9/0 / standard flat ad page
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 05 2013 00:13 GMT
#6435
On July 05 2013 09:01 nanospartan wrote:
You guys convinced me,I bought pantheon. Was there any universal agreement on the best way to build panth build/masteries wise? Any special tips or tricks? :D

Play against GP and report back, lol.
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
July 05 2013 00:15 GMT
#6436
On July 05 2013 09:10 Dusty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 09:01 nanospartan wrote:
You guys convinced me,I bought pantheon. Was there any universal agreement on the best way to build panth build/masteries wise? Any special tips or tricks? :D


assassin panth with brut>lw>bt is generally the strongest way of building him to carry, tank pantheon is pretty garbage. Spam W as you ult onto/near someone and it feels like you can jump a tiny bit further. 21/9/0 / standard flat ad page

I'm a big fan of double Dblade into straight BT since an early BT can help you snowball even more and the lifesteal works well with certain death to bait fights.
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 05 2013 00:19 GMT
#6437
On July 05 2013 09:10 TheYango wrote:
That thread in the SC2 section is exactly why I don't want TL to officially support LoL.

All the TL LoL players that are not a part of this community post like shit in that thread. I'd rather posters like that not join this subcommunity.

Okay, lock out new members, still post our articles on the front page. There, everyone wins.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 00:25:52
July 05 2013 00:19 GMT
#6438
There's an excellent Pantheon thread down in the Strategy Section, and despite not having been updated in awhile the OP is still choke full of good stuff, most notably the Playstyle section.

Short stuff:
- Don't forget your passive, that shit is omgwtfop at low level, especially on auto reliant champions (your W refreshes it, so you can bait stuff like Nasus' Q, etc. and W right before to refresh your passive).
- Expect to be camped. You have no escape, you're going to be aggressive, it's a jungler's wet dream if you don't have wards and the opposing top is smart.
- Don't neglect autos if you get an opportunity to sneak one. Q is great, but you're gated by mana, not cooldown nor damage at early levels, so any auto that can lower the number of Qs needed to put your target in kill range is worth it.
- Against big sustain openings (cloth+5 yo) you only lose if they can heal up. If you play aggro enough early on you can put them low enough that they can't just stay near you while potting up, even if you fail to kill. Being super aggro level 1 and all-ining level 2-3 before their sustain can kick in is often worth it, esp. if you can shove the lane to make them miss exp after it.
- Pantheon doesn't scale too well (more like people's tankiness hurts him as it improves) so the more gold people get, the weaker he is. Unless you can deny a bunch of exp/gold avoid trading kills, zoning tends to be stronger for Panth because you'd rather have less gold to make the game a 4.5v4 than have both of you rich.
- Towerdiving? Let the first tower shot be absorbed by your passive, then W the opponent to recharge it, and on your way out don't hesitate to cast E at empty air or stop to hit/Q a minion if that puts the Aegis back up. Blocking that incoming tower shot is well worth the little micro effort.
- Brutaliser isn't bad, but you're thinking mid-term, so BT should be your standard first non-dblade item. It can often be worth it to come back to lane just to shove a wave or two, back immediatly and buy your BFS. Only buy bruta when you really can't afford to sit on that gold (or you get fed early but not enough to buy BFS straight-up, you still need to leverage that gold advantage asap to snowball it).
- BC is goddamn fucken shit on champs like Pantheon. For the cost, it gives you worse burst than bruta, BT, LW (it was already the case before the last nerf, it's even truer now). Don't listen to people saying "you need to buy it to help the AD carry", your first item is there at the midgame timing where you hit your power peak, able to 100-0 people who aren't tank enough yet, and thus able to dive in fights and still win, to 1v1, etc. It's your time to shine, build selfishly. You'll get that BC once your AD carry has enough items that he actually passes you as the team's biggest physical threat, which isn't gonna happen during your levels 9-13.
- Of course, adapt the above stuff to the situation. If you got demolished in lane while your AD carry (or AD caster mid) is pretty fed, he's going to be the star of the show and you're pretty behind so you missed your chance, now you do your best to support him and that involves getting BC (or at least LW) and peeling.
- Don't dive once you can't anymore. You're not trololo Kha'Zix, and when people complain that he can't EW in four tenth of a second anymore remember that Pantheon was never able to do such a thing. your burst actually takes some time, is interruptible, and leaves you vulnerable as you have no escape. Learn to position well to stay alive and abuse HSS' short cd.

(I use ArPen/armour/MR/AD runes and 21-9-0 masteries, I tend to start flask+ward+pot for the ward and mana sustain to combat multiple pots opening but I'm a bit weird with my openings top.)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
July 05 2013 00:23 GMT
#6439
On July 05 2013 09:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 09:10 TheYango wrote:
That thread in the SC2 section is exactly why I don't want TL to officially support LoL.

All the TL LoL players that are not a part of this community post like shit in that thread. I'd rather posters like that not join this subcommunity.

Okay, lock out new members, still post our articles on the front page. There, everyone wins.


lock out how exactly
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 05 2013 00:27 GMT
#6440
On July 05 2013 09:23 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 09:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 05 2013 09:10 TheYango wrote:
That thread in the SC2 section is exactly why I don't want TL to officially support LoL.

All the TL LoL players that are not a part of this community post like shit in that thread. I'd rather posters like that not join this subcommunity.

Okay, lock out new members, still post our articles on the front page. There, everyone wins.


lock out how exactly

I wasn't being serious.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
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