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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On July 03 2013 09:27 Slusher wrote: are you going for the Hunter S. Thompson look? 15/2/5, I think I showed why Panth is better than GP :D I didn't even snowball really hard or anything, it's just that Panth is really good at all stages in the game. PS : I'm not bald :'( | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
I think I want to try 1v5 proxy singed in a custom game now. Brb trying | ||
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Capricious_LoL
United States222 Posts
On July 03 2013 09:02 Scip wrote: You guys still didn't tell me what masteries do you get when you go 0/9/21 jungle http://www.finalesfunkeln.com/s3/#XUbvvEmgqjglA You could switch up points according to individual junglers and personal preference, but minor choices in masteries/runes aren't worth writing novels about in an online forum. *hint* | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
But if you had to do it from level 1 I have no idea. I have done 1v5 beginner bots though on a lot of champs that I newly buy though just to get the hang of skills. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
as weird as it is for me to say this i don't think his sustain is his biggest issue. It's the combination of that and gross levels of free burst damage. I doubt he was ever intended to be played this way, but A) you don't solve the tank build by nerfing his heal, it'll still be superior, B) it will only make him more tolerable in lane, not really elsewhere and C)the glass cannon assassin build is *just* as obnoxious and only slightly less goods. There might not be a single experience in the game atm less fun than being a squishy vs that build. i hope they refocus him as a melee carry rather than an assassin. That would entail giving his Q a longer duration and less upfront damage, and reducing his R to a short duration so it'll be a chasing rather than initiation tool. His W would deal probably no damage at all. It doesn't need it, let him build fucking tiamat if he wants to waveclear. well I think the prophecy has come true, rengar is as obnoxious as ever now that he's repointed in the direction of being an assassin. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I really like it for mid/jungle, not so much for other roles. I feel like the more you roam the more roaming time it's giving you throughout the game. It'd be interesting to get some data on how many times a player recalls during the game on average per role. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
Playing as Cait with Janna, Jayce, Shyv, Elise vs Ashe, Sona, Fiddlesticks, Zed, Ziggs. Game going really late, there's been a few barons back and forth, some inhibitors down on both sides, they have one Nexus turret and we have none. I'm full build with QSS so I don't get absolutely destroyed by wombo combo CC. But this Jayce man, he had other plans. Jayce: Cait you need to buy Hurricane Jayce: Buy hurricane and win us the game Jayce: You need to trust me Cait Jayce: BUY HURRICANE Jayce: We need a HURRICANE Jayce: Im 19 7 Jayce: Trust me Jayce: Cait you need to trust Jayce: We need a Hurricane Jayce: Youll kill 3 at once Jayce: Srsly buy hurricane Jayce: Where's the trust Jayce: HURRICANE CAIT Jayce: Cait PLS Jayce: PLS CAIT HURRICANE Jayce: HURRICANE PLS This went on for seriously like 5-8 minutes. Eventually in our teamwide confusion Elise walked into the enemy team and they killed her and won. I'm still not sure if this was a really dedicated troll or what. Without Boots or QSS I was dead for sure to any number of combos, and selling one of IE/PD/BT/LW for Hurricane is pretty out of the question. They were never even clumped up. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
imo, that item is so trash. the extra shots do reduced damage and also doesn't apply crits so there's 0 reason to ever get it on an AD carry. Only time it does anything is if you're doing some janky on-hit build, but those builds are sub-optimal in like 99% of situations. In a similar vein, I also think Tiamat/Hydra is pretty terrible item but people buy that a lot so iunno... | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On July 03 2013 10:34 Slusher wrote: the AoE range on hurricane (thank god) isn't near good enough to be useful in teamfights it's really only good for waveclear. I guess you could use it for waveclear...but almost every single ranged AD champ already has good waveclear lol | ||
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
League name is: shelkelp play a game or two and see if its worth it. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On July 03 2013 10:34 Ryuu314 wrote: HURICAN PLS imo, that item is so trash. the extra shots do reduced damage and also doesn't apply crits so there's 0 reason to ever get it on an AD carry. Only time it does anything is if you're doing some janky on-hit build, but those builds are sub-optimal in like 99% of situations. In a similar vein, I also think Tiamat/Hydra is pretty terrible item but people buy that a lot so iunno... um Hydra is super good because it's a final tier lifesteal item that does not have a BF sword build path, also the active is super strong on people with damage modifiers like Talon and Zed, I think the item is actually super good especially with split pushing being as strong as it is right now, it functions really well on champions with attack resets like wukong or champions who want to do a lot of damage in burst like current style of Rengar I actually think the item is highly underrated at the moment. but yes I agree 100% on hurricane about the only good use of it I can think of is split push Teemo, not having to use mushrooms to apply pressure would allow you to set a lot more mines, but it would also take up an ap slot so it's iffy at best. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 03 2013 10:37 Ryuu314 wrote: I guess you could use it for waveclear...but almost every single ranged AD champ already has good waveclear lol I think it was suppose to be like ranged version of hydra; except hyrda is actually good. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On July 03 2013 10:34 Ryuu314 wrote: HURICAN PLS imo, that item is so trash. the extra shots do reduced damage and also doesn't apply crits so there's 0 reason to ever get it on an AD carry. Only time it does anything is if you're doing some janky on-hit build, but those builds are sub-optimal in like 99% of situations. In a similar vein, I also think Tiamat/Hydra is pretty terrible item but people buy that a lot so iunno... BT/Hurricane is really funny on Cait, 100% headshots if you stand in bushes <3 | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On July 03 2013 10:44 Slusher wrote: um Hydra is super good because it's a final tier lifesteal item that does not have a BF sword build path, also the active is super strong on people with damage modifiers like Talon and Zed, I think the item is actually super good especially with split pushing being as strong as it is right now, it functions really well on champions with attack resets like wukong or champions who want to do a lot of damage in burst like current style of Rengar I actually think the item is highly underrated at the moment. but yes I agree 100% on hurricane about the only good use of it I can think of is split push Teemo, not having to use mushrooms to apply pressure would allow you to set a lot more mines, but it would also take up an ap slot so it's iffy at best. Except you can get Bork for more lifesteal than Hydra. You also get the active, which is better than the Hydra active. The damage output from Bork is (i think) on par with the damage on Hydra. So much of the gold value of Hydra is wasted on the regen and passive, which honestly isn't very good. I can see why you'd get it for champs like Talon/Zed who have damage modifiers, but honestly even in that situation I think it's sub-optimal. The active is basically an aoe auto attack and it | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On July 03 2013 10:02 UniversalSnip wrote: what I posted in 2012 about rengar, when the OP tank build was standard for him because he had huge heals. well I think the prophecy has come true, rengar is as obnoxious as ever now that he's repointed in the direction of being an assassin. How the hell did you find such an old post of thyself? Also, Rengar's problem is he has so many tools + Manaless so it is nearly impossible for him to be balanced. Its like Tryndamere going from unseen to viable (and super annoying) just because everyone and everything was being nerfed around him. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On July 03 2013 10:44 Slusher wrote: um Hydra is super good because it's a final tier lifesteal item that does not have a BF sword build path, also the active is super strong on people with damage modifiers like Talon and Zed, I think the item is actually super good especially with split pushing being as strong as it is right now, it functions really well on champions with attack resets like wukong or champions who want to do a lot of damage in burst like current style of Rengar I actually think the item is highly underrated at the moment. but yes I agree 100% on hurricane about the only good use of it I can think of is split push Teemo, not having to use mushrooms to apply pressure would allow you to set a lot more mines, but it would also take up an ap slot so it's iffy at best. there is basically no reason to upgrade tiamat to hydra except to save slots, the only reason hydra even exists is because they know you'll buy a vamp and they don't want buying a tiamat to = being forced into BT down the road. just leave it as tiamat + vamp and buy other stuff for as long as you have spare slots. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On July 03 2013 10:50 Ryuu314 wrote: Except you can get Bork for more lifesteal than Hydra. You also get the active, which is better than the Hydra active. The damage output from Bork is (i think) on par with the damage on Hydra. So much of the gold value of Hydra is wasted on the regen and passive, which honestly isn't very good. I can see why you'd get it for champs like Talon/Zed who have damage modifiers, but honestly even in that situation I think it's sub-optimal. The active is basically an aoe auto attack and it building a BF sword top is haaaaard man. it's 1000 gold value of ad for 600 gold, it's not a terrible upgrade. I mean I can see sitting on the peices for a while but it's not like you get nothing. | ||
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