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Spaiku
Spain1114 Posts
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
his early/midgame is often strong enough that it doesnt matter too much though, if you have an advantage going in even if you can't 1v1 ad carries anymore it might not matter too much you basically peak at level 11, extra points in bear or tiger are really not amazing, since you tend to choose between getting 200 more damage from an extra pheonix hit or using tiger and getting 300-400 damage but its physical and thats if you max it often maxing bear is probably still better (+getting level 18 is unlikely in most games so a few ranks in tiger is usually not worth it) in theory trinity/wits would be pretty good for damage but since you want lots of resist/cdr and all the good cdr items are stacked with hp and little/no resists you need pretty retarded fed to tick all the boxes other champs have with like 2 items | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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kongoline
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Do you still do the swifties+spirit stone -> farm both jungles -> only go to lanes for free kills or counterganks -> locket//bulwark/FH always dance never die? | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 28 2013 05:18 kongoline wrote: tryndamere starts to be popular even on lower elo's, such an annoying champion to play against zzzzzz Take a champ that is annoying, but with a weak earlygame, but strong scaling. Nerf all other lategame champs' lategame. Nerf nearly all earlygame counters. ... Profit? | ||
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ArchAngelSC
England706 Posts
On June 28 2013 05:08 Slayer91 wrote: he's pretty weak because his damage doesnt scale at all into lategame and you basically need someone to engage and do everything for you because you're only good in long fights his early/midgame is often strong enough that it doesnt matter too much though, if you have an advantage going in even if you can't 1v1 ad carries anymore it might not matter too much you basically peak at level 11, extra points in bear or tiger are really not amazing, since you tend to choose between getting 200 more damage from an extra pheonix hit or using tiger and getting 300-400 damage but its physical and thats if you max it often maxing bear is probably still better (+getting level 18 is unlikely in most games so a few ranks in tiger is usually not worth it) in theory trinity/wits would be pretty good for damage but since you want lots of resist/cdr and all the good cdr items are stacked with hp and little/no resists you need pretty retarded fed to tick all the boxes other champs have with like 2 items What game are you playing? I'd say 90% of my games go well in to the late game and everyone has been level 18 for ages. | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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kongoline
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On June 28 2013 05:25 cLutZ wrote: Take a champ that is annoying, but with a weak earlygame, but strong scaling. Nerf all other lategame champs' lategame. Nerf nearly all earlygame counters. ... Profit? was watching WoDx the other day and he said bork + shyv are the reason why trynd is so strong right now, i agree those items make him pretty much impossible to duel | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
On June 28 2013 04:36 Slayer91 wrote: reverse these 2 statements and you have me in a nutshell LOL "pretty much all of my champions are Udyr" | ||
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Spaiku
Spain1114 Posts
On June 28 2013 05:18 kongoline wrote: tryndamere starts to be popular even on lower elo's, such an annoying champion to play against zzzzzz I'm banning him always and asking for trynd bans if i'm not first pick He's the most annoying thing ever, he can go 1/10 and still 1vs1 anyone with Botrk and Shyv anyone plus low elo teams can't react to split push most of the times | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On June 28 2013 05:40 upperbound wrote: LOL "pretty much all of my champions are Udyr" melee is opposite of ranged but ok.. On June 28 2013 05:28 ArchAngelSC wrote: What game are you playing? I'd say 90% of my games go well in to the late game and everyone has been level 18 for ages. 90% of my games dont go to lategame at all maybe more than half has 1 team with players that are level 18 but certainly not supports and junglers On June 28 2013 05:30 mordek wrote: I think it's a commentary on a game with udyr in it. Either you hit the timing strong or you don't and the tides quickly turn against the udyr's team. its not "hitting a timing" its just you have to play well early and hope theres opportunities to give your team a gold advantage. It's VERY rare in solo q that you can't have a game pretty much won by 20 minutes however if we want to talk about a pro level game certainly its going to be hard to get kills as a champ with as low mobility and burst as udyr. | ||
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
I don't play Maokai, but it seems as though playing him in the current meta is kind of hard. Most junglers will buy aegis, and you'll be expected to pass blue along usually, so mana items will be a bit hard to fit in until later. Has anyone had any success with him recently? | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
On June 28 2013 05:45 Slayer91 wrote: its not "hitting a timing" its just you have to play well early and hope theres opportunities to give your team a gold advantage. It's VERY rare in solo q that you can't have a game pretty much won by 20 minutes however if we want to talk about a pro level game certainly its going to be hard to get kills as a champ with as low mobility and burst as udyr. Perhaps I misspoke or I'm wrong. I meant either you secure the advantage within that window (early game) or you don't and the game is likely lost at that point since it gets harder and harder for udyr to do anything once everyone is full builds and blowing ppl up left and right. | ||
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
Haha I took "reversed" to mean to switch around the subjects, i.e. "I really don't like playing ranged" and "pretty much all of my champions are Udyr." It still made sense :o | ||
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sung_moon
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