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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
June 27 2013 22:06 GMT
#4581
On June 28 2013 06:52 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 06:13 Argoth. wrote:
Sometimes I really think Froggen has a special dice when playing anivia... right now he has muramana, spirit of the elder lizard, liandrys, and giants belt.
seriously wtf.
Edit: Frozen mallet. this build...
Anivia has such a great AP scaling but whyyyy
Edit2: now adding BotRK o_O I would get flamed to hell for this.

Don't you know that after he locks in Anivia, he just tosses at a dartboard with item pictures on it yet?


On September 27 2012 10:08 MooMooMugi wrote:
Froggen builds are determined by where his darts land on his item build pie chart

Hahaha
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
June 27 2013 22:09 GMT
#4582
Mechanics are the same in pro play and in soloq.Nien/turtle/altec are all people who were #1 in soloq and are really good ad-s.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-27 22:17:22
June 27 2013 22:14 GMT
#4583
yeah but what is your point? Chaox was #1+#2 - 3 or 4 months ago
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
June 27 2013 22:22 GMT
#4584
Well my point is he isn't good enough.Dunno why everyone thinks so highly of him.Getting multiple accounts in challenger isn't just about grinding enough games.Pros still play a lot of soloq.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
June 27 2013 22:22 GMT
#4585
With 5 or 6 more hours a day to solo queue I don't see why he couldn't get 7 or 8 accts in Challenger.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-27 22:31:56
June 27 2013 22:28 GMT
#4586
Nafta you are not making any sense. You keep ignoring the objetive fact,he was rank 1 and 2 when he wasn't even playing full time soloQ, and you keep going with your opinion that he isn't good enough to have multiple challenger accounts because he played bad in some LCS games before he got benched
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
June 27 2013 22:30 GMT
#4587
On June 28 2013 07:09 nafta wrote:
Mechanics are the same in pro play and in soloq.Nien/turtle/altec are all people who were #1 in soloq and are really good ad-s.

If Chaox gets multiple top 10 Challenger accounts, would you consider him a good ADC?
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
June 27 2013 22:33 GMT
#4588
On June 28 2013 07:30 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 07:09 nafta wrote:
Mechanics are the same in pro play and in soloq.Nien/turtle/altec are all people who were #1 in soloq and are really good ad-s.

If Chaox gets multiple top 10 Challenger accounts, would you consider him a good ADC?


Well if he does he probably would start to play well.I have yet to see bad people at the top of the ladder at least in eu dunno about na.But getting multiple accounts in challenger and keeping them there should mean that you need to win a lot>carry a lot.

Don't understand why everyone seems to be offended or something by me just saying no I don't think he will lol.
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
June 27 2013 22:49 GMT
#4589
Yeah, and Desrow also could have multiple GM accounts in NA and no one would consider him a top contender.... just a example... just like in Starcraft, ladder only matters *this* much and *this* much doesnt have to translate to a competitive setting.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-27 22:53:18
June 27 2013 22:53 GMT
#4590
On June 28 2013 07:33 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 07:30 caelym wrote:
On June 28 2013 07:09 nafta wrote:
Mechanics are the same in pro play and in soloq.Nien/turtle/altec are all people who were #1 in soloq and are really good ad-s.

If Chaox gets multiple top 10 Challenger accounts, would you consider him a good ADC?


Well if he does he probably would start to play well.I have yet to see bad people at the top of the ladder at least in eu dunno about na.But getting multiple accounts in challenger and keeping them there should mean that you need to win a lot>carry a lot.

Don't understand why everyone seems to be offended or something by me just saying no I don't think he will lol.


because it doesn't make any sense that you say he's bad and top challenger are only "good" people although he was on top of the challenger bracket with 2 accounts just a while ago.

nobody's offended here over this.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-27 23:03:07
June 27 2013 22:57 GMT
#4591
On June 28 2013 07:49 Usagi wrote:
Yeah, and Desrow also could have multiple GM accounts in NA and no one would consider him a top contender.... just a example... just like in Starcraft, ladder only matters *this* much and *this* much doesnt have to translate to a competitive setting.

Yea and Chaox has shown he was capable of competing against some of the best in NA/EU for quite a while. During this time, nobody was like omg Chaox so bad. He wasn't kicked for being bad. His rockstar persona ran away with him. Pleasing fangirls and enjoying himself replaced his game first mentality. When you spend the vast majority of time playing against NA. Why would the consideration of other ladders have importance?

If sc2 was identical to the way LoL is with the with the lack of Korean participants in other regions. Desrow holding multiple GM spots in NA would hold a bit of weight and mean something.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 27 2013 23:01 GMT
#4592
On June 28 2013 07:33 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 07:30 caelym wrote:
On June 28 2013 07:09 nafta wrote:
Mechanics are the same in pro play and in soloq.Nien/turtle/altec are all people who were #1 in soloq and are really good ad-s.

If Chaox gets multiple top 10 Challenger accounts, would you consider him a good ADC?


Well if he does he probably would start to play well.I have yet to see bad people at the top of the ladder at least in eu dunno about na.But getting multiple accounts in challenger and keeping them there should mean that you need to win a lot>carry a lot.

Don't understand why everyone seems to be offended or something by me just saying no I don't think he will lol.


I'm not offended, except by your offhand dismissal of my initial inquiry.

He makes money by streaming. Once his MMR get high enough on any one account ques will get too long for proper streaming, thus he will make a new account. Has has #1 and #2 before. I didn't even ask about top 10 only. He is clearly better than a lot of challenger players such as "I Kenny U" "Col Lautemortis" and the various RobertXLee accounts.

My question was fairly logical I thought.
Freeeeeeedom
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
June 27 2013 23:05 GMT
#4593
On June 28 2013 08:01 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 07:33 nafta wrote:
On June 28 2013 07:30 caelym wrote:
On June 28 2013 07:09 nafta wrote:
Mechanics are the same in pro play and in soloq.Nien/turtle/altec are all people who were #1 in soloq and are really good ad-s.

If Chaox gets multiple top 10 Challenger accounts, would you consider him a good ADC?


Well if he does he probably would start to play well.I have yet to see bad people at the top of the ladder at least in eu dunno about na.But getting multiple accounts in challenger and keeping them there should mean that you need to win a lot>carry a lot.

Don't understand why everyone seems to be offended or something by me just saying no I don't think he will lol.


I'm not offended, except by your offhand dismissal of my initial inquiry.

He makes money by streaming. Once his MMR get high enough on any one account ques will get too long for proper streaming, thus he will make a new account. Has has #1 and #2 before. I didn't even ask about top 10 only. He is clearly better than a lot of challenger players such as "I Kenny U" "Col Lautemortis" and the various RobertXLee accounts.

My question was fairly logical I thought.


robertxlee is probably better mechanically right now, but I understand your point
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Tilorn91
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia218 Posts
June 27 2013 23:17 GMT
#4594
Everyone is saying how OP nunu is in jungle, but I can't make him work for me no matter what, lost like 10 games in a row with him... I run MS quints, AS reds, armor yellow, MR blue, 4 4 22 masteries. I run around, stealing the big neutrals, trying to gank, but by 20mins, I'm always 0 0 3-4 or something, which is ok, but I'm also at least 40cs behind their jungler.

Also, for some reason I just can't snowball the lanes I'm helping, I give a kill or two to top lane, and he gets destroyed anyway (nasus died to riven twice in 2 mins).
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
June 27 2013 23:19 GMT
#4595
On June 28 2013 08:17 Tilorn91 wrote:
Everyone is saying how OP nunu is in jungle, but I can't make him work for me no matter what, lost like 10 games in a row with him... I run MS quints, AS reds, armor yellow, MR blue, 4 4 22 masteries. I run around, stealing the big neutrals, trying to gank, but by 20mins, I'm always 0 0 3-4 or something, which is ok, but I'm also at least 40cs behind their jungler.

Also, for some reason I just can't snowball the lanes I'm helping, I give a kill or two to top lane, and he gets destroyed anyway (nasus died to riven twice in 2 mins).

You dont have to get high farm as nunu, just ward and stole their buffs then gank left and right.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Magus
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada450 Posts
June 27 2013 23:29 GMT
#4596
On June 28 2013 08:17 Tilorn91 wrote:
Everyone is saying how OP nunu is in jungle, but I can't make him work for me no matter what, lost like 10 games in a row with him... I run MS quints, AS reds, armor yellow, MR blue, 4 4 22 masteries. I run around, stealing the big neutrals, trying to gank, but by 20mins, I'm always 0 0 3-4 or something, which is ok, but I'm also at least 40cs behind their jungler.

Also, for some reason I just can't snowball the lanes I'm helping, I give a kill or two to top lane, and he gets destroyed anyway (nasus died to riven twice in 2 mins).

How are you 40cs behind the enemy jungler if you're taking all their buffs?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 27 2013 23:30 GMT
#4597
On June 28 2013 07:30 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 07:09 nafta wrote:
Mechanics are the same in pro play and in soloq.Nien/turtle/altec are all people who were #1 in soloq and are really good ad-s.

If Chaox gets multiple top 10 Challenger accounts, would you consider him a good ADC?

Only if they were on Korean Servers.
liftlift > tsm
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
June 27 2013 23:31 GMT
#4598
On June 28 2013 08:17 Tilorn91 wrote:
Everyone is saying how OP nunu is in jungle, but I can't make him work for me no matter what, lost like 10 games in a row with him... I run MS quints, AS reds, armor yellow, MR blue, 4 4 22 masteries. I run around, stealing the big neutrals, trying to gank, but by 20mins, I'm always 0 0 3-4 or something, which is ok, but I'm also at least 40cs behind their jungler.

Also, for some reason I just can't snowball the lanes I'm helping, I give a kill or two to top lane, and he gets destroyed anyway (nasus died to riven twice in 2 mins).

If you're behind their jungler in farm and your lanes aren't crazy ahead it means you're not doing anything on the map. If you manage to steal enough XP to be a full level ahead of their jungler then either they power farm or just camp the shit out of a lane. If they are power farming, then you should camp a lane to either win it hard for your team or to force their jungler to respond to you (and thus give up his farming). If he is camping a lane you should be using the extra gold and map pressure you have to figure out the only places where he could show up and then make his day miserable.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
June 27 2013 23:32 GMT
#4599
On June 28 2013 08:17 Tilorn91 wrote:
Everyone is saying how OP nunu is in jungle, but I can't make him work for me no matter what, lost like 10 games in a row with him... I run MS quints, AS reds, armor yellow, MR blue, 4 4 22 masteries. I run around, stealing the big neutrals, trying to gank, but by 20mins, I'm always 0 0 3-4 or something, which is ok, but I'm also at least 40cs behind their jungler.

Also, for some reason I just can't snowball the lanes I'm helping, I give a kill or two to top lane, and he gets destroyed anyway (nasus died to riven twice in 2 mins).

Riven is a hard matchup for Nasus. He fucked up hardcore if he gets smashed when given a couple early kills.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
June 27 2013 23:37 GMT
#4600
nasus got smashed, not riven
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