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GTR
51497 Posts
On June 25 2013 11:54 sung_moon wrote: Damn those LCS team icons. Really wished they had OGN team icons up for purchase :3 I would snap up a CJ icon in a heartbeat. Shame I don't really care for the NA/EU teams. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On June 25 2013 12:28 GTR wrote: I would snap up a CJ icon in a heartbeat. Shame I don't really care for the NA/EU teams. Riot says they are in talks with international teams. That said, gonna buy the shit out of the Curse and NiP icons. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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Brambled
United States750 Posts
On June 25 2013 12:32 HazMat wrote: Anyone else notice how the colored pony logo says "TL Loves Esports, equally" if you highlight over it? Is that not counting League or what? Was wondering same thing. Anyone able to give me a quick TL:DR reason why it seems TL decided to endorse Dota 2 exclusively? I have no issues with Dota 2; but it just seems they are a little more favored on this site. | ||
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
On June 25 2013 12:32 HazMat wrote: Anyone else notice how the colored pony logo says "TL Loves Esports, equally" if you highlight over it? Is that not counting League or what? It's a nice sentiment that works decently as a slogan. Nothing more, nothing less. | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
I don't get how people say Riot is being greedy by doing this. Some people have spent thousands of dollars on skins. I don't see the difference. | ||
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nanospartan
649 Posts
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
Kind of feels weird to be their LoL team fan since I never liked SKT in Brood War | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
Really noticed how much people don't remember what she does anymore too, over and over have people trying to 1v1 slugfest outduel her, almost never works. The new Wit's End is really nice on her too. I feel like the jungle come 3.9 is about to revert to S2 with different opening (namely Machete + 5 pots). Counter jungling feels so strong. Would be nice to have Shyv come back overall, I always felt she was the "You must be this tall to jungle" champ (wording stolen from Riot about Renek top). If you could not deal with Shyv in S2 you did not jungle that champ unless their jungle was already picked. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On June 25 2013 12:40 Letmelose wrote: It's a nice sentiment that works decently as a slogan. Nothing more, nothing less. Well I mean it's a lie. I thought it was about LGBT but once I highlighted over it I had a sorrowful chuckle. | ||
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
On June 25 2013 12:56 Diamond wrote: Been playing Shyvanna again with the 3.8 changes, love her in the new patch. Armor + 5 pots start doesn't really set you back, and there is very few people that can deal with her in their jungle, and the majority of those are not "meta" picks atm. Really noticed how much people don't remember what she does anymore too, over and over have people trying to 1v1 slugfest outduel her, almost never works. The new Wit's End is really nice on her too. I feel like the jungle come 3.9 is about to revert to S2 with different opening (namely Machete + 5 pots). Counter jungling feels so strong. Would be nice to have Shyv come back overall, I always felt she was the "You must be this tall to jungle" champ (wording stolen from Riot about Renek top). If you could not deal with Shyv in S2 you did not jungle that champ unless their jungle was already picked. Burnout doesn't auto clear camps anymore, though. Are you still maxing W or something else? | ||
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
On June 25 2013 12:55 upperbound wrote: Want SK Telecom T2 icon. Kind of feels weird to be their LoL team fan since I never liked SKT in Brood War You're one of the good ones. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On June 25 2013 12:59 upperbound wrote: Burnout doesn't auto clear camps anymore, though. Are you still maxing W or something else? I max R>W>E>Q. I am not having to normally attack the small creeps much if at all. I think it auto-clears at lvl 2 of W, never paid exact attention but her clear speed is still crazy. | ||
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
On June 25 2013 13:01 Diamond wrote: I max R>W>E>Q. I am not having to normally attack the small creeps much if at all. I think it auto-clears at lvl 2 of W, never paid exact attention but her clear speed is still crazy. Oh no I just meant that W has less of a net effect since the HP is more concentrated in the big creep -- it makes sense that you don't attack the littles since they have less hp now. Intriguing that your clears still feel good, I can see Shyvana doing work against some of the currently popular junglers in the early game. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On June 25 2013 12:39 Brambled wrote: Was wondering same thing. Anyone able to give me a quick TL:DR reason why it seems TL decided to endorse Dota 2 exclusively? I have no issues with Dota 2; but it just seems they are a little more favored on this site. It's because all of TL's staff hates League of Legends obvs. More serious, they picked up DotA2 because DotA as a game has a long and storied history. Much like Brood War/SC2. League does not. The TL community, not just their staff, also preferred SC2 and DotA2 in general (which I think is echoed in how small our LoL community is by comparison). Furthermore there seem to be few higher up staff members interested/knowledgeable enough in professional LoL to really pick it up at this time. You wouldn't want TL to pick up LoL officially the way they did SC2/DotA2 and half ass it. Neo became an admin fairly recently. We got new banlings. I'm sure it's something they intend on doing down the road if the League scene stays big. And it almost certainly will. This gets brought up all the time on GD and it's probably the worst place to bring it up since everyone here will (mostly) agree that TL should pick up LoL. Or at least that they should at some point. I don't browse much of the rest of TL but if there is a thread, or if one ever pops up, about website suggestions or something I'd bring it up there. Also I don't think the, "We love ESPORTS Equally," was meant as a sleight in any way to LoL. edit: Official statement they made when they picked up DotA2 plus the announcement thread. + Show Spoiler + We understand that League right now is the biggest game with the largest player base. But this isn't purely a business or numbers decision for TL. At this moment, taking into account our existing core audience (StarCraft fans), we believe that Dota 2 should be the game we add to our coverage. It "fits" TL's style, and it's very popular among our staff, who play and watch the game as well as visit sites like r/dota2. We already have an active Dota 2 forum, and pro Dota 2 players are streaming using our stream list. Though no TL game expansion can compare to us adding StarCraft 2 two years ago, this is a similar situation where all the pieces are already in place. This doesn't mean we hate League of Legends or that it has no place on TL. In fact, we have many fans of professional LoL on TL and they and our staff have done some amazing forum-based coverage of LoL tournaments, such as MLG Summer Arena or IEM Cologne. We're not ruling out adding League, but right now we feel that Dota 2 fits us more. | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
On June 25 2013 12:39 Brambled wrote: Was wondering same thing. Anyone able to give me a quick TL:DR reason why it seems TL decided to endorse Dota 2 exclusively? I have no issues with Dota 2; but it just seems they are a little more favored on this site. TL was BW website Blizzard made BW Blizzard also made warcraft3 from where dota was created TL endorse sc2 and dota2 There's also a diablo 3 subforum = TL just love Blizzard related thing + Show Spoiler + just kidding, I guess their writting staff had interest in Dota and not in LoL? Endorsing a game with the quality standart that TL has needs alot of staff I'd guess. Also LoL comunity is crazy scary | ||
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caelym
United States6421 Posts
On June 25 2013 12:42 Fionn wrote: give me muh blaze icon I don't get how people say Riot is being greedy by doing this. Some people have spent thousands of dollars on skins. I don't see the difference. The concept isn't greedy but the revenue split seems skewed. Teams offer their brand while Riot offers its distribution platform. I don't know the numbers behind all of this but on the surface I feel teams are bringing more to the table in this exchange. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On June 25 2013 13:06 upperbound wrote: Oh no I just meant that W has less of a net effect since the HP is more concentrated in the big creep -- it makes sense that you don't attack the littles since they have less hp now. Intriguing that your clears still feel good, I can see Shyvana doing work against some of the currently popular junglers in the early game. Oh I see. Nah she is still fine. Lvl 1 (like every jungler ever) sucks, but her Q is still badass for single targets, and E helps further. A very minor thing also is with the big wraith being moved you can E the big one while traveling between your sides of the jungle (through mid) where before you only got it if you were coming thru mid lane. Allows quick aggro and the armor shred on the right target. One thing is I run lifesteal quints, but that's just a personal preference thing. She's hard to itemize against (dat hybrid damage), can get stupidly tanky, can legit get away with running exhaust, and now can even just start at the enemy red without being risky trying to take wraiths. I feel like the jungle changes helped her out big time. S2 style counter jungling feels worth it again, you can get a full 2-4 level ahead depending on how bad you wreck their jungle, and not only have the advantage, but most junglers wont gank if under constant siege in their jungle leaving them underleveled so you relieve pressure on your lanes also. On June 25 2013 13:10 caelym wrote: The concept isn't greedy but the revenue split seems skewed. Teams offer their brand while Riot offers its distribution platform. I don't know the numbers behind all of this but on the surface I feel teams are bringing more to the table in this exchange. 20% is pretty damn legit. All the teams have to do is provide a HQ logo and sign some stuff, and receive free money. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On June 25 2013 10:37 Letmelose wrote: I'm really hesitant when it comes to abusing the seven team member rule to the fullest. It might eventually reach the point where opposing teams care as much about the possible player compositions as much as the champion compositions. It also might breed a special group of players who only train to take down the key members of an opposing team, instead of encouraging the growth of complete and versatile players. There's just a whole lot of paths this kind of policy might take if it is utilized to its fullest potential, and I'm not liking what I picture in my head. What if there are two players that practice specifically for a certain patch that will become defunct with time, while two of their substitutes practice on the current patch in preparation for the next group of games? Only the most ruthless, and financially well-off organizations will be able to make proper use of Riot's seven men policy. Ultimately, I fear it will be the death of the amateur scene, with talented players trying desperately to become the "seventh" member of a prestigious professional team with a clearly defined role, rather than trying to rise on his own as a complete player. What made BW exciting for me in part was the coaching and which players to send out when, especially when lower-tier players could come out with crazy sniper strategies. This also created a culture where the opportunity for involvement in eSports is larger than have a fixed roster. You also get to prepare better and give your star players some rest if you don't need to secure wins. Obviously a set of 5v5 matches is much different than multiple 1v1 matches, but I don't think your specified worst-case scenarios are that bad. Having more players who specialize in a style of play will allow teams to field much more interesting strategies, provided that they can somehow maintain team synergy with more than 5 revolving players. | ||
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