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nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
June 24 2013 23:49 GMT
#3741
Sweet teams get 20% of each sale
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3589621
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
June 24 2013 23:49 GMT
#3742
On June 25 2013 08:46 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 08:42 Fusilero wrote:
On June 25 2013 07:44 Requizen wrote:
On June 25 2013 07:42 MoonBear wrote:
On June 25 2013 07:37 Ketara wrote:
Hmm, I have 251 RP, I could get a fancy icon.

But which fancy icon would I get? None of the NA teams are particularly awesome atm

CLG of course

Excuse me while I titter.

Curse or die

You both suck, vulcun #1 in godwater and mancloud we trust.

Dignitas Assemble


You mean dignitoss?

Constantly losing games for life!
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 24 2013 23:50 GMT
#3743
I really think the Korean philosophy of subs is going to be the future of League. I'm probably going to write an article about it and why it should be what every team does in a few years. With the amount of champions, positions, and differences between players in roles, having subs is going to be huge for teams. I see League becoming a lot more like basketball, with teams using situational bench players for certain teams and combos. With mid and top lane becoming more solo laners and 110+ champions and growing, it's impossible for a single player to be able to do and play everything at a pro level.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35131 Posts
June 24 2013 23:51 GMT
#3744
On June 25 2013 08:49 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 08:46 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On June 25 2013 08:42 Fusilero wrote:
On June 25 2013 07:44 Requizen wrote:
On June 25 2013 07:42 MoonBear wrote:
On June 25 2013 07:37 Ketara wrote:
Hmm, I have 251 RP, I could get a fancy icon.

But which fancy icon would I get? None of the NA teams are particularly awesome atm

CLG of course

Excuse me while I titter.

Curse or die

You both suck, vulcun #1 in godwater and mancloud we trust.

Dignitas Assemble


You mean dignitoss?

Constantly losing games for life!

Who want a piece of the champs? TEE ESS EMMU
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5710 Posts
June 24 2013 23:52 GMT
#3745
So ranked for NA is disabled and I get a 22lp loss right before it happens because our top never connected. No loss forgiven GG.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
June 24 2013 23:56 GMT
#3746
On June 25 2013 08:50 Fionn wrote:
I really think the Korean philosophy of subs is going to be the future of League. I'm probably going to write an article about it and why it should be what every team does in a few years. With the amount of champions, positions, and differences between players in roles, having subs is going to be huge for teams. I see League becoming a lot more like basketball, with teams using situational bench players for certain teams and combos. With mid and top lane becoming more solo laners and 110+ champions and growing, it's impossible for a single player to be able to do and play everything at a pro level.

I agree with this. Most other competitive sports have matchup subs; why not League?
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
June 24 2013 23:59 GMT
#3747
On June 25 2013 08:56 upperbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 08:50 Fionn wrote:
I really think the Korean philosophy of subs is going to be the future of League. I'm probably going to write an article about it and why it should be what every team does in a few years. With the amount of champions, positions, and differences between players in roles, having subs is going to be huge for teams. I see League becoming a lot more like basketball, with teams using situational bench players for certain teams and combos. With mid and top lane becoming more solo laners and 110+ champions and growing, it's impossible for a single player to be able to do and play everything at a pro level.

I agree with this. Most other competitive sports have matchup subs; why not League?


hard to pay more than a couple of subs
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 25 2013 00:04 GMT
#3748
I mean, NA and Eu have "subs", but it really just means a player they use if another player is sick, busy doing something else, or is about to get kicked/benched and due to roster freezing, they have no other option. Back when the scene was basically weekend three day tournaments, scouting and preparing for a specific team really wasn't needed. You could take a guess who you might face, but it'd be stupid to focus your entire efforts on a single team when you don't know how the bracket will line up.

Now, in all five regions, teams know who they are facing every single week and have a week to two to prepare. The biggest reason Ozone are the Korean champions and Blaze isn't is because of how well Ozone were prepared for Blaze's strategies. You can't really blame Blaze for not changing anything, having won thirteen in a row and two of those games against the very same Ozone team. If they had changed strategies, champions, etc., and then would have lost, the backlash would have been monumental, demanding why a team who was so perfect decided to change things up.

With teams having so much time to prepare, teams are going to get broken down. With every team playing 30+ games a season, every team around the world is able to look at your strategies, favorite champions and have a good amount of time to try and find a counter. Throwing subs into the mix, it gives you 6+ new champions per sub that you can use, and depending on the player, it might give you a radically different team composition. You could have a very farm heavy, passive top laner who looks to dominate in the late game, or you could have an uber aggressive, tower diving top laner who wants to snowball early.

I could see it coming to a point where teams are even allowed to sub in players during BoX series, bringing the mind games and tactics to a whole new level, making every game of a series different and thought out before going in.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
June 25 2013 00:05 GMT
#3749
On June 25 2013 08:59 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 08:56 upperbound wrote:
On June 25 2013 08:50 Fionn wrote:
I really think the Korean philosophy of subs is going to be the future of League. I'm probably going to write an article about it and why it should be what every team does in a few years. With the amount of champions, positions, and differences between players in roles, having subs is going to be huge for teams. I see League becoming a lot more like basketball, with teams using situational bench players for certain teams and combos. With mid and top lane becoming more solo laners and 110+ champions and growing, it's impossible for a single player to be able to do and play everything at a pro level.

I agree with this. Most other competitive sports have matchup subs; why not League?


hard to pay more than a couple of subs


Just get subs to do research and other grunt work since they'll be scrimming with the team less often. It would save some money on a 2nd coach or analyst.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 00:09:32
June 25 2013 00:08 GMT
#3750
Me and my duo (both diamond 5) laned against a diamond 1 premade bot lane.

Holy noodles the skill differential, I thought I wasn't too bad at this game. We counterpicked Vayne/Janna as Cait/Taric and, well, my butt still hurts.

I think I'm simply proof that if you play enough, eventually you'll manage to scrape together 3 wins in enough promo series to make it to diamond.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 25 2013 00:48 GMT
#3751
On June 25 2013 08:49 nojitosunrise wrote:
Sweet teams get 20% of each sale
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3589621


Do you really think that huge organizations like EG or Curse, let alone a LOL-only powerhouse like Regi + TSM would let Riot get away with blatant trademark infringement for free?
Freeeeeeedom
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
June 25 2013 00:51 GMT
#3752
Karma is so fun in ARAMs, holy shit. Max shield, get 40% CDR as fast as you can, always Mantra shields, never not Mantra shields, team is always vroomvrooming around and never die.
Hey! How you doin'?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 25 2013 00:54 GMT
#3753
On June 25 2013 09:48 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 08:49 nojitosunrise wrote:
Sweet teams get 20% of each sale
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3589621


Do you really think that huge organizations like EG or Curse, let alone a LOL-only powerhouse like Regi + TSM would let Riot get away with blatant trademark infringement for free?

l0l, pretty sure Riot has a lot of clout here.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
June 25 2013 01:04 GMT
#3754
On June 25 2013 09:54 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 09:48 cLutZ wrote:
On June 25 2013 08:49 nojitosunrise wrote:
Sweet teams get 20% of each sale
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3589621


Do you really think that huge organizations like EG or Curse, let alone a LOL-only powerhouse like Regi + TSM would let Riot get away with blatant trademark infringement for free?

l0l, pretty sure Riot has a lot of clout here.


clout (klout)
n.
1. A blow, especially with the fist.

It makes sense that their logo is a fist!

(Yes I do know the other use of clout, I wanted to give you a hi5 Neo for clever wordplay)
Hey! How you doin'?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 01:05:38
June 25 2013 01:04 GMT
#3755
Riot may have the pull. But 20% is abysmally small
liftlift > tsm
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
June 25 2013 01:05 GMT
#3756
On June 25 2013 09:05 c.Deadly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 08:59 nojitosunrise wrote:
On June 25 2013 08:56 upperbound wrote:
On June 25 2013 08:50 Fionn wrote:
I really think the Korean philosophy of subs is going to be the future of League. I'm probably going to write an article about it and why it should be what every team does in a few years. With the amount of champions, positions, and differences between players in roles, having subs is going to be huge for teams. I see League becoming a lot more like basketball, with teams using situational bench players for certain teams and combos. With mid and top lane becoming more solo laners and 110+ champions and growing, it's impossible for a single player to be able to do and play everything at a pro level.

I agree with this. Most other competitive sports have matchup subs; why not League?


hard to pay more than a couple of subs


Just get subs to do research and other grunt work since they'll be scrimming with the team less often. It would save some money on a 2nd coach or analyst.

It's allowed to work in Korea so much easier. They have the gaming house on lock. Not a care in the world that they have two sets of bunk beds in a small room. You watch a tour of a NA gaming house its a minor version of Cribs. Relocation expenses aren't nearly as big as they would be in NA. Greed and money we aren't sure if it's there will prevent this from happening in NA for a long time.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 01:07:36
June 25 2013 01:06 GMT
#3757
On June 25 2013 08:49 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 08:46 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On June 25 2013 08:42 Fusilero wrote:
On June 25 2013 07:44 Requizen wrote:
On June 25 2013 07:42 MoonBear wrote:
On June 25 2013 07:37 Ketara wrote:
Hmm, I have 251 RP, I could get a fancy icon.

But which fancy icon would I get? None of the NA teams are particularly awesome atm

CLG of course

Excuse me while I titter.

Curse or die

You both suck, vulcun #1 in godwater and mancloud we trust.

Dignitas Assemble


You mean dignitoss?

Constantly losing games for life!

Wow. r u a wizrd

On June 25 2013 09:51 Zdrastochye wrote:
Karma is so fun in ARAMs, holy shit. Max shield, get 40% CDR as fast as you can, always Mantra shields, never not Mantra shields, team is always vroomvrooming around and never die.

And not focus on the OP AoE poke? O-o
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
June 25 2013 01:11 GMT
#3758
On June 25 2013 10:04 wei2coolman wrote:
Riot may have the pull. But 20% is abysmally small

That was what I was thinking but I don't think the teams have any collective bargaining power and not being included because you wanted a higher cut is too risky.
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
June 25 2013 01:12 GMT
#3759
I just realized Ashe shoots herself in the eye when she does her joke now. :>
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
June 25 2013 01:15 GMT
#3760
On June 25 2013 01:17 Parametric wrote:
I want to play some pokemon, i don't own any pokemon games besides Soul Silver and I've never played any games beyond SS/HG, what should i buy?

Pref to avoid spoilers pls

Pokemmo is good. Otherwise every new game is better than the previous if you play all of them.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
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